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Re: Pictorial Reviews: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Deluxe Wave 2 Bulkhead and Smokescreen

Postby Autobot032 » Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:54 am

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Manterax Prime wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:
Manterax Prime wrote:Arms Micron Smokespleen the better figure? As Prowl maybe, but as Smokescreen? Are you insane or just overly tired?


You're disrespecting the opinion of a staff member, are you trying to push your luck?

Don't be offensive. Respect the opinions of others.



I'm not disrespecting your opinion. I'm just asking in a different way how the AM version is the better figure.

And I'm not trying to be offensive.... sheesh, some people just can't tell when people are joking.


"Are you insane or just overly tired?"

First part could be considered offensive. I've seen people report and been reported for less. The second part is just ridiculous.

Simply asking "Are you serious?" would've sufficed. And I would've answered to the best of my abilities.

zatara1701 wrote:
Manterax Prime wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:
Manterax Prime wrote:Arms Micron Smokespleen the better figure? As Prowl maybe, but as Smokescreen? Are you insane or just overly tired?


You're disrespecting the opinion of a staff member, are you trying to push your luck?

Don't be offensive. Respect the opinions of others.



I'm not disrespecting your opinion. I'm just asking in a different way how the AM version is the better figure.

And I'm not trying to be offensive.... sheesh, some people just can't tell when people are joking.
That being said, I am going to play Devil's Advocate for a moment because something bugged me tonight...

I have been on Seibertron for YEARS and log on SEVERAL times a day. It is a place of common interests, but it is also FILLED to the brim with sarcasm, differing opinions and, I think above all, a common degree of twisted sense of humor. I have seen it get nasty a few times, but mostly it's all in fun. I think MOST of us see that, know that and embrace it.

That being said, taking ALL that into consideration, since when can we NOT disagree or say something contrary to what a "staff member" said?? Manterax Prime wasn't being nasty, vulgar or anything wildly off the reservation... Doesn't "respect the opinions of others," go both ways? To me a "staff member" of a fan site where opinions vary and some people are very passionate about their hobby, telling someone they are "pushing their luck," seems kinda heavy handed and offensive to me as a member of this site... It comes off as, "We the mighty Staff Members will banish you forever if you offend us or dont agree with us."

This is supposed to be fun, and reading statements of that tone from a "staff member" kinda takes the fun out of it. We all have ways of expressing ourselves, and as long as it's within the realm of normalcy and decency...I don't see the problem. Let's keep it FUN and keep the threats and bullying to a minimum shall we??


First of all, no one was threatened or bullied from my end or the staff's. Not once.
Second of all, no one said people can't be contrary to staff members. What he said is offensive, to anyone, especially staff members. "Are you insane?" is rude, no matter who it's being said to. If I were to say that to someone of the staff, on any board, I'd be receiving a PM. In no way were powers abused, or anything threatened by pointing out such a thing. There was nothing normal or decent in his comment. If you can't see that, then I don't know what else to say.

RAcast wrote:Pah, Am Smokey is still a cop-out, and BH Smokey still looks AMAZING.

As for the "loose shoulders", are you sure you pegged them in properly? I recall from Peaugh's review that he made sure to mention that they were good and solid once you did. It's right at 5:00 if you want to go check for yourself. :)



Trust me, I watched that video. Peaugh (and Baltmatrix) is just about the only reviewer I'm willing to watch on YouTube. He's good about finding all the ins and outs of a figure or accessory, that's pretty much the reason he's my go to reviewer. I followed that, all of it and he's still loose. Peaugh was right about the ball joints on it, too. They're quite loose but he'll hold a pose. (I do fear he'll be as limp as a rag doll once they lose their grip.)
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Re: Pictorial Reviews: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Deluxe Wave 2 Bulkhead and Smokescreen

Postby Manterax Prime » Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:00 am

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Autobot032 wrote:
Manterax Prime wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:
Manterax Prime wrote:Arms Micron Smokespleen the better figure? As Prowl maybe, but as Smokescreen? Are you insane or just overly tired?


You're disrespecting the opinion of a staff member, are you trying to push your luck?

Don't be offensive. Respect the opinions of others.



I'm not disrespecting your opinion. I'm just asking in a different way how the AM version is the better figure.

And I'm not trying to be offensive.... sheesh, some people just can't tell when people are joking.


"Are you insane or just overly tired?"

First part could be considered offensive. I've seen people report and been reported for less. The second part is just ridiculous.

Simply asking "Are you serious?" would've sufficed. And I would've answered to the best of my abilities.

zatara1701 wrote:
Manterax Prime wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:
Manterax Prime wrote:Arms Micron Smokespleen the better figure? As Prowl maybe, but as Smokescreen? Are you insane or just overly tired?


You're disrespecting the opinion of a staff member, are you trying to push your luck?

Don't be offensive. Respect the opinions of others.



I'm not disrespecting your opinion. I'm just asking in a different way how the AM version is the better figure.

And I'm not trying to be offensive.... sheesh, some people just can't tell when people are joking.
That being said, I am going to play Devil's Advocate for a moment because something bugged me tonight...

I have been on Seibertron for YEARS and log on SEVERAL times a day. It is a place of common interests, but it is also FILLED to the brim with sarcasm, differing opinions and, I think above all, a common degree of twisted sense of humor. I have seen it get nasty a few times, but mostly it's all in fun. I think MOST of us see that, know that and embrace it.

That being said, taking ALL that into consideration, since when can we NOT disagree or say something contrary to what a "staff member" said?? Manterax Prime wasn't being nasty, vulgar or anything wildly off the reservation... Doesn't "respect the opinions of others," go both ways? To me a "staff member" of a fan site where opinions vary and some people are very passionate about their hobby, telling someone they are "pushing their luck," seems kinda heavy handed and offensive to me as a member of this site... It comes off as, "We the mighty Staff Members will banish you forever if you offend us or dont agree with us."

This is supposed to be fun, and reading statements of that tone from a "staff member" kinda takes the fun out of it. We all have ways of expressing ourselves, and as long as it's within the realm of normalcy and decency...I don't see the problem. Let's keep it FUN and keep the threats and bullying to a minimum shall we??


First of all, no one was threatened or bullied from my end or the staff's. Not once.
Second of all, no one said people can't be contrary to staff members. What he said is offensive, to anyone, especially staff members. "Are you insane?" is rude, no matter who it's being said to. If I were to say that to someone of the staff, on any board, I'd be receiving a PM. In no way were powers abused, or anything threatened by pointing out such a thing. There was nothing normal or decent in his comment. If you can't see that, then I don't know what else to say.

RAcast wrote:Pah, Am Smokey is still a cop-out, and BH Smokey still looks AMAZING.

As for the "loose shoulders", are you sure you pegged them in properly? I recall from Peaugh's review that he made sure to mention that they were good and solid once you did. It's right at 5:00 if you want to go check for yourself. :)



Trust me, I watched that video. Peaugh (and Baltmatrix) is just about the only reviewer I'm willing to watch on YouTube. He's good about finding all the ins and outs of a figure or accessory, that's pretty much the reason he's my go to reviewer. I followed that, all of it and he's still loose. Peaugh was right about the ball joints on it, too. They're quite loose but he'll hold a pose. (I do fear he'll be as limp as a rag doll once they lose their grip.)



If I wanted to be rude and offend you I would've just said "you're insane" but I didn't. And yes, pulling the "staff member" card is threatening. And you've kinda ticked me off in the process.
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Re: Pictorial Reviews: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Deluxe Wave 2 Bulkhead and Smokescreen

Postby omega666 » Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:14 am

Looks like someone stared to design Smokescreen great but then gave up halfway and half-assed the rest of the design process. I may pick him up and throw away that rubber crap.
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Re: Pictorial Reviews: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Deluxe Wave 2 Bulkhead and Smokescreen

Postby Autobot032 » Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:29 am

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Manterax wrote:If I wanted to be rude and offend you I would've just said "you're insane" but I didn't. And yes, pulling the "staff member" card is threatening. And you've kinda ticked me off in the process.


*sighs* No one's threatened anyone.
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Re: Pictorial Reviews: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Deluxe Wave 2 Bulkhead and Smokescreen

Postby Burn » Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:49 am

Manterax Prime wrote:If I wanted to be rude and offend you I would've just said "you're insane" but I didn't. And yes, pulling the "staff member" card is threatening. And you've kinda ticked me off in the process.


Thank you for not being rude or offensive.

At this point I want both parties to step back, if anyone feels the need to continue the discussion, please pm each other so we don't ruin this thread any further.

Thanks.
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Re: Pictorial Reviews: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Deluxe Wave 2 Bulkhead and Smokescreen

Postby Bounti76 » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:08 am

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As for my two cents, I think this Bulkhead mold looks like crud. Poor panel fits, annoying (to me) swirly plastic, completely obvious body parts visible, and the head looks nothing like him. They might as well have called him by a different name, because only the basic proportions of his vehicle mode suggest it's Bulkhead.

Smokescreen is okay. I'll get him to complete the cast (and paint his head more accurately red), but I'm not fond of the arm kibble or the "armor" in robot mode. It covers NOTHING!! How is that supposed to protect him. Anyhoo..
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Re: Pictorial Reviews: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Deluxe Wave 2 Bulkhead and Smokescreen

Postby Bounti76 » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:09 am

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And Burn? My apologies for dragging this out...I was writing my post before I saw yours... my bad.
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Re: Pictorial Reviews: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Deluxe Wave 2 Bulkhead and Smokescreen

Postby Burn » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:12 am

You can always edit your post...

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Re: Pictorial Reviews: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Deluxe Wave 2 Bulkhead and Smokescreen

Postby Stormcry » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:24 am

Is it just me, or does Bulkhead look like a transformers/TMNT crossover? Awesome.
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Re: Pictorial Reviews: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Deluxe Wave 2 Bulkhead and Smokescreen

Postby Bounti76 » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:26 am

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Burn wrote:You can always edit your post...

Warnings are issued from this point onwards.


Oh yeah....hehe. I'm not that brilliant when it comes to editing stuff. I'm surprised I can figure out how to turn my computer on sometimes. :D Anyway, done.



Does anyone else agree that they should have just given the Deluxe BUlkhead a different name?

Roadbuster would be the obvious choice, as the deco homages him, but I wonder if that would have conflicted with the upcoming Roadbuster remold/repaint of FOC Swindle. Making a figure of a dead character isn't unprecedented in this line (e.g. the repaint of Legion Cliffjumper as Tailgate). Then again, the Beast Hunters treatment and his inclusion in the line wouldn't have made sense if he's supposed to be dead..
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