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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby craggy » Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:59 pm

nice. these two were the ones I was really worried about when I preordered the whole wave. Kickback looks interesting, and Air Raid will be my Classics Wing Saber.
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby RAcast » Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:06 pm

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I don't have Shockwave yet, an I'd still like him, but if I can't get him for a reasonable price I'll wait for a big sale and grab whichever version of the mold I see first. Firefight was always one of my favorite toys as a kid, so he'd certainly have a place next to his granddaddy.
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby Autobot032 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:51 pm

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Hmm. I think Kickback's going to become my PRID Insecticon. He's as close as we're going to get, and as it was said in the review, he seems to fit Prime just a bit better than FOC.
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby Overcracker » Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:51 pm

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That mold works really well for Sideswipe., better than it did for Jazz, and Jazz is a pretty good figure already.
Magnus looks ver cool, and that sword just completes the otherwise lackluster Prime mold.

Starscream is just O.K.

The insecticon is a must.

And somehow Fireflight makes that mold his own. Shockwave was a little disappointing, but Firelight just works.
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby Dammitman » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:23 pm

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The Kickback looks decent enough but as for Air Raid. Really? A Shockwave repaint? Notice in the game he was not a repaint of Shockwave. Kudos to Hasbro for cutting corners and skimping on product. It doesn't even really look that good for Shockwave to be honest. Hasbro is shooting themselves in the foot with crap like that and really need to step up their game if they want to compete with 3rd party manufacturers who actually make a better product.
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby Dammitman » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:29 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:Technically, Kickback is in the Prime universe. Prime and FoC are part of the same continuity family.

But I get it. His design is slightly more Prime-esque than FoC.


I haven't seen season 2 of Prime but Kickback is definitely not in season 1
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby Overcracker » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:49 pm

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The insecticons show up in season 2. However the only named one is Hardshell. The rest are just his army of Insecticons. like the vehicons

But Kickback is in the FOC game prominently, you fight him as Grimlock.

So not sure why this would be a Prime figure.
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:58 pm

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Dammitman wrote:The Kickback looks decent enough but as for Air Raid. Really? A Shockwave repaint? Notice in the game he was not a repaint of Shockwave. Kudos to Hasbro for cutting corners and skimping on product. It doesn't even really look that good for Shockwave to be honest. Hasbro is shooting themselves in the foot with crap like that and really need to step up their game if they want to compete with 3rd party manufacturers who actually make a better product.
He's not the same Air Raid as the one from the video games. His on-package toy bio gives him an entirely different personality as WFC Air Raid. Same name, different character.
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby PrymeStriker » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:32 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:Technically, Kickback is in the Prime universe. Prime and FoC are part of the same continuity family.

But I get it. His design is slightly more Prime-esque than FoC.


I haven't seen season 2 of Prime but Kickback is definitely not in season 1


You misunderstood me. Kickback isn't in Prime at all. I never said that. What I said was that Prime and FoC are part of the same universe. So, Kickback is in the Prime universe. He's not in the Prime cartoon.
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby Megatron Wolf » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:02 am

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both look good but we all know where i stand on deluxes, until the price drops or they go on sale i wont be getting them.
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby kirbenvost » Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:47 am

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I guess if Kickback is actually in the game I'll display him with the WFC/FoC figs. Bur he does look very Prime-like in aesthetic.

Air Raid is pretty awesome. The alt mode looks too much like Shockwave, but otherwise he's great. Maybe I can work out some sort of fan-mode that's a little more plane-like. Very badass with the weapons. I might give his small sword to another figure, but it depends.

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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby Motorthing » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:24 pm

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Kapow have just sent me my Magnus so they are obviously about to hit......glad I didn't bother to pre-order Air Raid cos that looks as lazy and pointless as I thought when I heard Has were just going to repaint Shockwave. Sideswipe should be on the way to me too.

I like Magnus much better than Op....I just wish his chin wasn't so pointy and they had made both characters the Voyagers they should have been.
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby TheSprinkle42 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:01 am

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Okay, am I the only one who sees this?
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby RAcast » Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:04 am

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TheSprinkle42 wrote:Okay, am I the only one who sees this?
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Nope, haha.
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby craggy » Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:17 pm

okay. He has the same name as an Aerialbot, but I don't see Air Raid as being one. Takara's Air Raid is so different in colourscheme that he too looks like a completely different character.
I like this turn of events.
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:05 pm

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craggy wrote:okay. He has the same name as an Aerialbot, but I don't see Air Raid as being one. Takara's Air Raid is so different in colourscheme that he too looks like a completely different character.
I like this turn of events.
It as supposed to be Fireflight, but the name was changed at the last minute. His bio also resembles that of G1 Fireflight.
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby Nemesis Destron » Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:14 am

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To me Sideswipe looks a bit top-heavy. Thats way I also saw Animated Hot Rod, too beefy on top and weak looking in the legs. You know who had it worst of all was Energon OP, just horrible IMHO. There is no question that UM looks brilliant and the Hasbro version looks perfect with no need for Takara's. I am stuck on choosing which SS to get. The aesthetics over all look good and this from someone who has never played the games, don't need it to see what's good and what ain't...'nuff said! :VEHI:
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby DecepticonFinishline » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:39 pm

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Dammitman wrote:The Kickback looks decent enough but as for Air Raid. Really? A Shockwave repaint? Notice in the game he was not a repaint of Shockwave. Kudos to Hasbro for cutting corners and skimping on product. It doesn't even really look that good for Shockwave to be honest. Hasbro is shooting themselves in the foot with crap like that and really need to step up their game if they want to compete with 3rd party manufacturers who actually make a better product.
He's not the same Air Raid as the one from the video games. His on-package toy bio gives him an entirely different personality as WFC Air Raid. Same name, different character.


Honestly, I think that makes it worse. And to be quite honest, I was kinda looking forward to having an FoC Air Raid figure. A real one... Not this joke.

That was a little extra harsh... But still...
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:16 pm

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DecepticonFinishline wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Dammitman wrote:The Kickback looks decent enough but as for Air Raid. Really? A Shockwave repaint? Notice in the game he was not a repaint of Shockwave. Kudos to Hasbro for cutting corners and skimping on product. It doesn't even really look that good for Shockwave to be honest. Hasbro is shooting themselves in the foot with crap like that and really need to step up their game if they want to compete with 3rd party manufacturers who actually make a better product.
He's not the same Air Raid as the one from the video games. His on-package toy bio gives him an entirely different personality as WFC Air Raid. Same name, different character.


Honestly, I think that makes it worse. And to be quite honest, I was kinda looking forward to having an FoC Air Raid figure. A real one... Not this joke.

That was a little extra harsh... But still...
It was supposed to be Fireflight, especially given his very "Fireflight-y" bio, but it was changed at the last minute probably due to some issue with them being unable to use that name.
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby Dammitman » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:36 am

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Sabrblade wrote: His on-package toy bio gives him an entirely different personality as WFC Air Raid. Same name, different character.


If it is a different character then market him as such. Don't put him on a Fall of Cybertron card if it is not the same character. That is just an insult to the Fans' intelligence.
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby craggy » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:45 am

Dammitman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote: His on-package toy bio gives him an entirely different personality as WFC Air Raid. Same name, different character.


If it is a different character then market him as such. Don't put him on a Fall of Cybertron card if it is not the same character. That is just an insult to the Fans' intelligence.

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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:52 am

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Dammitman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote: His on-package toy bio gives him an entirely different personality as WFC Air Raid. Same name, different character.


If it is a different character then market him as such. Don't put him on a Fall of Cybertron card if it is not the same character. That is just an insult to the Fans' intelligence.
Sabrblade wrote:It was supposed to be Fireflight, especially given his very "Fireflight-y" bio, but it was changed at the last minute probably due to some issue with them being unable to use that name.
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby Dammitman » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:19 pm

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you're new to Transformers, aren't you?[/quote]

Gosh darn it you got me. I don't know anything about Transformers beyond what Michael Bay taught me.
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby Dammitman » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:28 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:It was supposed to be Fireflight, especially given his very "Fireflight-y" bio, but it was changed at the last minute probably due to some issue with them being unable to use that name.
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All I am hearing here is more excuses as to why a big toy company can screw its fans and not any real justification whatsoever.
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Re: Pictorials: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus

Postby craggy » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:30 pm

Dammitman wrote:

you're new to Transformers, aren't you?[/quote]

Gosh darn it you got me. I don't know anything about Transformers beyond what Michael Bay taught me.[/quote]
not having a go at you, just saying that it's not new that Hasbro does completely random things with naming their toys sometimes
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