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by 5150 Cruiser » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:32 am
Prime Riblet wrote:I personally found nothing disrespectful in the second movie as far as the twins go. I won't say the assertions were ridiculous, but I think people read WAY TOO MUCH into that situation. Just like people are with this movie. Jamaican? Wow. Just wow.
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
by saucerdo » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:44 am
BeastProwl wrote:But why remove them?
by Autobot032 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:12 am
5150 Cruiser wrote:Autobot032 wrote: The Wreckers won't be looked down upon because they're based on WASP people. (White Anglo-Saxons) If anything, people will applaud the filmmakers for having them in.
First of, i loved the Wreckers. Probabaly my favorite characters in DOTM. I felt there accents were fitting, but am I the only one who thinks they were given the scotish accents so people in no way shape or form could claim they were stereotypical nascar fans?
5150 Cruiser wrote:Autobot032 wrote:Political correctness? In these films? No. Sly made a good point about the Dreads in another thread, and he's onto something. I went to see the film a second time, and during the Mexican Standoff scene, some members of the audience murmured "Whoa, dude's an alien Jamaican!" and other references towards Jamaicans. I got it right away, the first time I saw the film, but I didn't feel it was blatant. After Sly's thread and seeing it a second time, I see it plain as day.
Political Correctness and Bayverse? No. Sorry.
1.- I remember when Sly made the initial coment of waiting for someone to make a racial conection with the dreads because they were black and ran fast. I think it was more a joke than anyhing (BUt with him, you can never be to sure)
2.- Had he, or the audience memeber made that coment, would you have ever made that conection yourself? And to be fair, i don't see anything derogatory about them anyhow. If anyhing, running faster than Camaro SS and Corvette Stingray is an honor!
But one thing i can't agree with is Bay being politicly correct. For me, having the twins removed from the movie was a perfect example of this. Wether or not you like/dislike the twins or agree with their behavior, bay and Co. recieved alot of flack. Story wise, it would have made much more sence to include them in some shape or form, but instead, because of a select few, they felt it would just be eaiser to cut them out intirely.
by BeastProwl » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:12 pm
Autobot032 wrote:5150 Cruiser wrote:Autobot032 wrote: The Wreckers won't be looked down upon because they're based on WASP people. (White Anglo-Saxons) If anything, people will applaud the filmmakers for having them in.
First of, i loved the Wreckers. Probabaly my favorite characters in DOTM. I felt there accents were fitting, but am I the only one who thinks they were given the scotish accents so people in no way shape or form could claim they were stereotypical nascar fans?
Oh, so did I. And I wonder about the accents too. I mean, everything but the voices were there. It was almost too perfect...5150 Cruiser wrote:Autobot032 wrote:Political correctness? In these films? No. Sly made a good point about the Dreads in another thread, and he's onto something. I went to see the film a second time, and during the Mexican Standoff scene, some members of the audience murmured "Whoa, dude's an alien Jamaican!" and other references towards Jamaicans. I got it right away, the first time I saw the film, but I didn't feel it was blatant. After Sly's thread and seeing it a second time, I see it plain as day.
Political Correctness and Bayverse? No. Sorry.
1.- I remember when Sly made the initial coment of waiting for someone to make a racial conection with the dreads because they were black and ran fast. I think it was more a joke than anyhing (BUt with him, you can never be to sure
2.- Had he, or the audience memeber made that coment, would you have ever made that conection yourself? And to be fair, i don't see anything derogatory about them anyhow. If anyhing, running faster than Camaro SS and Corvette Stingray is an honor!
But one thing i can't agree with is Bay being politicly correct. For me, having the twins removed from the movie was a perfect example of this. Wether or not you like/dislike the twins or agree with their behavior, bay and Co. recieved alot of flack. Story wise, it would have made much more sence to include them in some shape or form, but instead, because of a select few, they felt it would just be eaiser to cut them out intirely.
1.) Sly? No, you can never be too sure.
2.) Making the connection... Yeah. Sadly. Crankcase reminded me of one of the vampires from the Twilight saga. (You see him in the previews) Red eyes and everything. Hmm...was Bay trying to make one of them instead? Dang it. Now that's gonna rattle around in my head.
3.) Bay? Political Correctness? I dare say nay. Bay laughs in the face of PC. I commend him for it. I'm a little tired of the whole PC thing. The labels allow you to say the worst possible thing in the nicest way. I'd much rather people quit pulling their punches and let it all out.
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by shamone » Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:42 pm
by 5150 Cruiser » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:40 pm
shamone wrote:delighted twins were kicked off the movie
a victory for political correctness
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
by shamone » Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:34 pm
5150 Cruiser wrote:shamone wrote:delighted twins were kicked off the movie
a victory for political correctness
And a lose for continuity.
by Autobot032 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:06 pm
shamone wrote:5150 Cruiser wrote:shamone wrote:delighted twins were kicked off the movie
a victory for political correctness
And a lose for continuity.
im sorry bu there is only response to that
by 5150 Cruiser » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:29 pm
shamone wrote:5150 Cruiser wrote:shamone wrote:delighted twins were kicked off the movie
a victory for political correctness
And a lose for continuity.
im sorry bu there is only response to that
Autobot032 wrote: You're not sorry. Stop it. You're an instigator and you know it.
You have no right to mock his opinion. You don't have to agree with it, but he's entitled to it without having to be treated in this manner.
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
by Autobot032 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:15 pm
5150 Cruiser wrote:shamone wrote:5150 Cruiser wrote:shamone wrote:delighted twins were kicked off the movie
a victory for political correctness
And a lose for continuity.
im sorry bu there is only response to that
You complain about people being condencending and disrespectfull and this is your response. Right dude.
Now what i find funny is by your response your basicly saying there is a continumity problem in the movies, constantly bring the movies down for it, yet you support it (continuity) by removing the twins intirely.
Guess its ok as long as its to your benifit.Autobot032 wrote: You're not sorry. Stop it. You're an instigator and you know it.
You have no right to mock his opinion. You don't have to agree with it, but he's entitled to it without having to be treated in this manner.
Thanks.
What gets me is if you don't like the Twins why wouldn't you want to see them get killed? In the book didn't take the hits for Bumble Bee and the other Autobots? (Minus Ironhide of course) At least it would have been an honorable death
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