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Re: Poll: Are you content with TFP Smokescreen's toy?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:46 am
by NTESHFT
He deserves the cartoon mold, it's as simple as that (unless you are Hastak).

Re: Poll: Are you content with TFP Smokescreen's toy?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:47 am
by Pretender Skywarp
He prolly does deserve his own mould, but the KO one isn't that much of a stretch. The least they could have done was sown major retooling...

Re: Poll: Are you content with TFP Smokescreen's toy?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:51 pm
by Diem
I don't really care about the character, so my only beef is that there are better molds that are not lined up for redeco eg. Rumble, Vehicon.

Re: Poll: Are you content with TFP Smokescreen's toy?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:04 pm
by xyl360
headsortails wrote:He deserves the cartoon mold, it's as simple as that (unless you are Hastak).

I don't think it's possible. His CGI character model on the show is essentially a composite of Bumblebee and Knockout and what looks like a slightly modded Starscream head.

I'm pretty sure that based on that, you can't make a figure that transforms into his car mode from that bot mode, though they could do what they often do and fake some things (fake wheels etc.) to pull something off better than just a repainted Knockout.

Re: Poll: Are you content with TFP Smokescreen's toy?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:22 pm
by RAcast
Even in the show, he's basically a retool of Knock Out, if an extensive one, and I'm okay with that! Knock Out and Smokescreen both look GREAT.

HOWEVER, I'm not okay with AM Smokescreen being a REDECO with a new head or otherwise. I don't care how it's painted, it doesn't look like Smokescreen. It wouldn't even be that difficult of a remolding, either.

Re: Poll: Are you content with TFP Smokescreen's toy?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:22 pm
by Noideaforaname
I don't care much for the Prime line nor Autobots, so "indifferent".

His character model does seem very "Knock Out with a different head and slightly different but still same-toy build", kinda like how Blackarachnia was to Tarantulas.

Re: Poll: Are you content with TFP Smokescreen's toy?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:27 pm
by xyl360
RAcast wrote:Even in the show, he's basically a retool of Knock Out, if an extensive one, and I'm okay with that! Knock Out and Smokescreen both look GREAT.

HOWEVER, I'm not okay with AM Smokescreen being a REDECO with a new head or otherwise. I don't care how it's painted, it doesn't look like Smokescreen!

Right, but that's kinda my point. How could you possibly retool Knockout into Smokescreen? He needs doors on his back (can't do that with Knockout, at least not without kitbashing or partsforming because that's where the wheels are) and he has Bumblebee's arms (again, due to how Knockout's mold works, his doors must become his arms and there's no room inside that tiny car mode of his to fit a pair of arms inside of doors).

What they could do is possibly an extensive retool of Bumblebee, somehow changing how the chest trasforms so that he doesn't end up with the front end up there and the rest would pretty much be fine.

Either way, I think either option is too extensive and he just flat out needs his own completely unique/built from scratch mold. Neither Bumblebee or Knockout would work for retools based on how each of them transforms.

Re: Poll: Are you content with TFP Smokescreen's toy?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:33 am
by Autobot032
Uh...you guys do know that Hasbro hinted at a Deluxe Class Smokescreen with an original mold design, at NYCC, right?

Re: Poll: Are you content with TFP Smokescreen's toy?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:55 am
by xyl360
Autobot032 wrote:Uh...you guys do know that Hasbro hinted at a Deluxe Class Smokescreen with an original mold design, at NYCC, right?

Yep, I remember. My fingers are crossed but I'm not holding my breath. By the time anything not yet announced would come out, it will be part of the Beast Hunters line, meaning it's likely to be covered in spikes etc. like the retools of the existing figures/characters are. I'm not saying that's a bad thing (I think the Beast Hunters Autobots look pretty cool myself), but it does mean that if I'm right, we still won't have a screen accurate version of Smokescreen as he originally appeared in the show.

Re: Poll: Are you content with TFP Smokescreen's toy?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:18 am
by RAcast
xyl360 wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:Uh...you guys do know that Hasbro hinted at a Deluxe Class Smokescreen with an original mold design, at NYCC, right?

Yep, I remember. My fingers are crossed but I'm not holding my breath. By the time anything not yet announced would come out, it will be part of the Beast Hunters line, meaning it's likely to be covered in spikes etc. like the retools of the existing figures/characters are. I'm not saying that's a bad thing (I think the Beast Hunters Autobots look pretty cool myself), but it does mean that if I'm right, we still won't have a screen accurate version of Smokescreen as he originally appeared in the show.

Yeahh, if Takara isn't doing a screen-accurate Smokescreen, what hope do we have of getting one from Hasbro? :\ I'm all for the spikey retools, they look great and appeal to the Monster Hunter fan in me, but not getting a screen accurate mold of a MAJOR character is pretty inexcusable.

Re: Poll: Are you content with TFP Smokescreen's toy?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:09 am
by paul053
Indifferent for now. I haven't seen season 2 yet. When will the DVD come out?

Re: Poll: Are you content with TFP Smokescreen's toy?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:31 am
by Rhinox23
paul053 wrote:Indifferent for now. I haven't seen season 2 yet. When will the DVD come out?


DVD release date is 11/20 and Blu-Ray is 11/27. So, not too far off!

Re: Poll: Are you content with TFP Smokescreen's toy?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:25 am
by PrymeStriker
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Re: Poll: Are you content with TFP Smokescreen's toy?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:41 am
by paul053
Rhinox23 wrote:
paul053 wrote:Indifferent for now. I haven't seen season 2 yet. When will the DVD come out?


DVD release date is 11/20 and Blu-Ray is 11/27. So, not too far off!

Hah! Thanks. Wondering why they set the date different. Season 1 was on the same day.

Re: Poll: Are you content with TFP Smokescreen's toy?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:33 am
by PrymeStriker
paul053 wrote:
Rhinox23 wrote:
paul053 wrote:Indifferent for now. I haven't seen season 2 yet. When will the DVD come out?


DVD release date is 11/20 and Blu-Ray is 11/27. So, not too far off!

Hah! Thanks. Wondering why they set the date different. Season 1 was on the same day.


Here's Smokescreen, by the way.

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Re: Poll: Are you content with TFP Smokescreen's toy?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:51 pm
by RodimalToyota
It's Hasbro, Sense is not part of their scheme.

Re: Poll: Are you content with TFP Smokescreen's toy?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:47 pm
by Mkall
RodimalToyota wrote:It's Hasbro, Sense is not part of their scheme.

Oh they have sense, it's just a different sense than what we fans have.

Re: Poll: Are you content with TFP Smokescreen's toy?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:38 pm
by datguy86
Mkall wrote:
RodimalToyota wrote:It's Hasbro, Sense is not part of their scheme.

Oh they have sense, it's just a different sense than what we fans have.


Nonsense is not sense.

Though as much as I dislike the character, a toy would have been nice. But Breakdown, Unicron, Jet Vehicon, and Silas Breakdown releases would also have been swell as well.

Re: Poll: Are you content with TFP Smokescreen's toy?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:22 pm
by tmk9883
Seems like a like a people like him enough to buy him. He is sold out at BBTS and TFSource. I was on the fence and was surprised he sold out so fast. I was surprised they made new molds for Kup/Ironhide and Frenzy/Rumble.

Re: Poll: Are you content with TFP Smokescreen's toy?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:58 pm
by PrymeStriker
tmk9883 wrote:Seems like a like a people like him enough to buy him.


Like Combo x3