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ArmadaPrime wrote:Wow, I am actually kind of loving this design
Rpetras' point about the jester shoes rings true though


Also am I the only one to whom it kinda looks like he's wearing a swallowtail coat though?

First off, let me say that whoever this fellow is, be it Grimlock or otherwise, I LIKE this design.

That said...

I, Grimlock, would be nothing short of dapper in such a garment.

RAcast wrote:I, Grimlock, would be nothing short of dapper in such a garment.

You. I like you.

im shocked at how little bashing there is since he barely looks like his G1 self.

Doubledealer93 wrote:im shocked at how little bashing there is since he barely looks like his G1 self.

Shhhh! Don't open that can of worms!

Doubledealer93 wrote:im shocked at how little bashing there is since he barely looks like his G1 self.

I was wondering why no one brought up the fact that he looks nothing like G1 Grimlock. Maybe the badassness of this new design is too much for the haters to handle, so they all run whimpering in the face of the new super ultra omega bomb-ass Grimlock.

FurStreak wrote:This is clearly from observing the picture in its rough form. But it looks as if the left shoulder has what looks to be Slags muzzle/beak (Triceratops). The right should looks to be one of the others upper jaw/beak/muzzle. Possibly grimlocks, but I highly doubt it due to the shape, and the previously seen picture of Optimus riding Grimlock into battle.

This is entirely speculation, But from what I can tell, I believe that Michael Bay has introduced DINO KING into the fray. The dino bots combine to form the great Dino King! As I said, this is entirely speculation due to the poor picture posted.

To add to this, the fist on the right hand looks like a spiked tail from a What I would guess to be Slag (Stegosaurus) and the large staff/mace looks to be his spines from along his back as well.

I can only guess this at the moment, But I think that Snarl will become the left arm, Slag will become the right arm. While Grimlock will become the main body and legs. Also, If Swoop is in the fray, I think he would become part of the lower abdomen, while his wings drape around the sides of the thighs and possibly into the front of the combined robot.

Feel free to prove me wrong, as this is all best guess and speculation based on the provided picture.

what photo are you looking at?

specidifcally.. what shoulders are you looking at? CLEARLY one shoulder is the upper head/jaw, and the other shoulder is the lower jaw.. i'm not sure how that isn't obvious.. especially when you factor in the look of grimlocks dinosaur mode that we've seen.. the shoulders look EXACTLY like his dino head.. so i'm not sure what you're looking at. maybe you're right about this being a combination.. but you're definitely wrong about the shoulders. and i wouldn't put it passed bay for grimlock to have weapons that look like these.

Aren't we putting the cart before the horse here? Can we wait till around trailer time before we say a robot mode is this or that.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Doubledealer93 wrote:im shocked at how little bashing there is since he barely looks like his G1 self.

I was wondering why no one brought up the fact that he looks nothing like G1 Grimlock. Maybe the badassness of this new design is too much for the haters to handle, so they all run whimpering in the face of the new super ultra omega bomb-ass Grimlock.

Would you accept a complaint that he isn't a green construction vehicle? (I joke of course )

Expecting anything in Bayverse to look like it's G1 self would just be silly. Of course that's not going to happen, so I wouldn't see why anyone would, at this point, have that problem. Sadly, some of the movies' designs have been bad in and of themselves. (some of them, like Bumblebee and Prime can be appreciated better once they were made in plastic I personally feel)

When we get a clear shot of this guy and we see he has six bug eyes and mandibles we'll start complaining, don't you worry. But for now, from what we see, it looks pretty good. At least it feels like a good concept to put behind Dinobots

Rated X wrote:Not great, but could be a whole lot worse. So I guess the dinobots will all look like midevil knights.

Seems like that's going to be the look for all Autobots if Optimus with the sword and sheild and knightly armor is anything to go by.

Emerje

I like it but this screams slug to me. If it is Grimlock then the leader class is going to be amazing

hinomars19 wrote:'wham bam it's the Dino jam!'

Believe it or not, the very 1st commercial I saw for Dinozaurs had the title "Transformers: Dinobots", so it's not as coincidental as one may think that Grimlock here looks like Tyranno (I'm still waiting for a figure of Ultimate Tyranno).

Also, who care's if he's not designed after his G1 bot mode. If anything, the fanboys are lucky to be getting Grimlock at all.

Manterax Prime wrote:(I'm still waiting for a figure of Ultimate Tyranno).

And Ulitmate Dino Tricera, and Dino Icthyo, and Dino Ramph, and Diamond Ryugu.

1.I believe the bay-verse Grimlock will be something like the Skyfire/Jetfire character. A lost Autobot who arrived before Prime's crew much like the G1 original series canon Insecticons did before Megatron's.
2.But yeah It's clearly Grimlock with the T-rex head football shoulder pads.
I just wish we could have them look a little something like the originals. In my humble opinion they deviated way too far away from the original likeness of well, all of them.

Oh hell, they keep introducing good designs for this movie. ROTF burned all the bridges that might lead me to watch this movie, but that doesn't mean I can't be suckered into buying the toys, and I was hoping to cut back on my collecting when this line comes out.

That being said, I like how they finally figured out how to make these designs look like real, interesting characters, rather than big piles of garbage. He just looks really, really good, and that's about all I can say.

I always called Megatron a mutated fork, or metallic spaghetti. Big pile of garbage is accurate too. But this Grimlock not bad for Bay-verse I guess?

WoW . This design looks incredible. Man. I'm praying that this turns out to be a great big bad looking leader class or bigger, good toy. Barbarian, predator, ancient alien battle hardened going to do even more damage than what optimus does. I even like his wizard shoes. Almost a total win other than his small head. Can't wait to see how bad and mean looking will the Decepticons be.
This Grimlock is by far one the best looking initial bayformers designs I ever saw.
Long Live Movieverse. Oh yeah, the more raw, wild and like g1 Grimlocks character was the better. I mean like this: Me Grimlock, me king, optimus is no king, Grimlock King. Live actoin Transformers movies

EagleTron wrote:I mean like this: Me Grimlock, me king, optimus is no king, Grimlock King. Live actoin Transformers movies

Here here. if they keep that badass character going throughout and use it in the actual movie, properly, it will be a huge step in the right direction. But if the ground poster was any guess, Prime will ride Grimlock at some point...

OH MY GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE HE DOESN'T LOOK EXACTLY LIKE G1 GRIMLOCK I CAN'T BELIEVE BAY IS RAPING MY CHILDHOOD AGAIN I REALLY THOUGHT HE'D LOOK EXACTLY LIKE G1 AND HAVE THE SAME VOICE ACTOR AND SPEAK IN EXACTLY THE SAME WAY.

I like the look, but I have a strong feeling that toys of this guy are going to be lame. Very lame.

To me,it looks ver much Megatron-like to me. So it could be rebuilded Megatron as well.

But if this is Grimlock, then I'm pleased. There finally is a chance for a badass looking Autobot. Maybe this time Autobot victory could look at least a little realistic

So, world of warcraft movie is going to happen? Wow (no pun intented), that is great.

...wait. This is Grimlock? Umm...no. no He isn't. Oh, because he doesn't look like G1? No. That is something that some of you are for some reason assuming. I don't know where that idea comes, since likely only small minority would want them to look exactly like G1. And what does that even means? G1 designs from the 80's, or perhaps these more modern versions of those same characters? My point about these desings has always being, that they doesn't look like belonging to TF-Universe. If we think about those game desings and take them as an example, then abviously they aren't like G1 and look more modern, but they look like transformers and not some fantasy knights or lego bionicle. They follow these certain desings, or pattern if you will.

That being said, I don't find this Grimlock (if it even is grimlock) that cool. It looks like somekind of a rather generic fantasy monster, that could be from any final fantasy game. Though the picture isn't that great either, but still. This was something that should be expected what comes to these movies, but it is still a disappointment. It is clear that they don't try to look anything like transformers and for some that is fine. But it doesn't mean that one should still automatically accept the changes or like this kind of a changes. It should IMO have at least some abvious hints that he is supposed to be Grimlock and not a random enemy number 66 from FF or something like that.

It is a bit funny how for example makers of superhero movies usually try to make characters look much like their comic book counterparts and they actually really make an effort to do so. Sometimes something must be changed, because in live action movie it would look too silly or it wouldn't work. But as far as I know, many think that they should still somehow kind of a "respect" the original material they are working with. And why work with a title or material you already hate or feel absolutely silly to beging with. Apparently some movie makers and directors have complitely different approach what comes to this. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

Like being said, I suppose one should already expect this, but it would be fun to see a TF movie with different desing team etc. It could be worse or better, who knows. I mean who would like to see Burton's Batman made over and over again (or Nolan's Batman)?

SamYarbrough77 wrote:I just wish we could have them look a little something like the originals. In my humble opinion they deviated way too far away from the original likeness of well, all of them.

What about when we got characters with classic names bu virtually no resemblance to their namesakes in previous TF series? Like, look at the following:

• Beast Wars Scorponok looked nothing like G1 Scorponok
• Beast Wars Inferno looked nothing like G1 Inferno
• Beast Wars Rampage looked nothing like G1 Rampage
• Beast Wars Silverbolt looked nothing like G1 Silverbolt
• Beast Machines Thrust looked nothing like G1 Thrust
• RiD Skid-Z looked nothing like G1 Skids
• RiD Prowl looked nothing like G1 Prowl
• RiD X-Brawn looked nothing like G1 Brawn
• RiD Grimlock looked nothing like G1 Grimlock
• RiD Megatron/Galvatron looked nothing like G1 Megatron/Galvatron
• RiD Scourge looked nothing like G1 Scourge
• Armada Perceptor looked nothing like G1 Perceptor
• Armada Hot Shot looked nothing like RiD Hot Shot
• Armada Red Alert looked nothing like G1 Red Alert
• Armada Smokescreen/Hoist looked nothing like G1 Smokescreen or Hoist
• Armada Blurr looked nothing like G1 Blurr
• Armada Side Swipe looked nothing like G1 Sideswipe
• Armada Megatron/Galvatron looked nothing like G1 Megatron/Galvatron
• Armada Cyclonus looked nothing like G1 Cyclonus
• Armada Thrust barely resembled G1 Thrust
• Armada Wheeljack looked nothing like G1 Wheeljack
• Energon Ironhide looked nothing like G1 Ironhide
• Energon Prowl looked nothing like G1 Prowl
• Energon Landmine looked nothing like G1 Landmine
• Energon Cliffjumper looked nothing like G1 Cliffjumper
• Energon Downshift looked nothing like G1 Downshift
• Energon Roadblock looked nothing like G1 Roadblock
• Energon Sky Shadow looked nothing like BW Sky Shadow
• Energon Terradive looked nothing like G1 Terradive
• Energon Treadshot looked nothing like G1 Treadshot
• Energon Windrazor barely resembled G2 Windrazor
• Energon Tow-Line looked nothing like RiD Tow-Line
• Energon Treadbolt looked nothing like G1 Tread Bolt
• Energon Mirage looked nothing like G1 Mirage
• Energon Six Shot looked nothing like G1 Sixshot
• Energon Sledge looked nothing like G1 Sledge
• Energon Wideload looked nothing like G1 Wideload
• Energon Barricade looked nothing like G1 Barricade
• Energon Blackout looked nothing like G1 Blackout
• Energon Kickback looked nothing like G1 Kickback
• Energon Stormcloud looked nothing like G1 Storm Cloud
• Energon Divebomb barely resembled G1 Divebomb
• Energon Rapid Run looked nothing like RiD Rapid Run
• Energon Sharkticon looked nothing like the G1 Sharkticons
• Energon Dreadwing looked nothing like G1 Dreadwing
• Energon Quickstrike looked nothing like BW Quickstrike
• Cybertron Scattorshot looked nothing like G1 Scattershot
• Cybertron Override looked nothing like G1 Override
• Cybertron Brakedown looked nothing like G1 Breakdown
• Cybertron Snarl looked nothing like G1 Snarl
• Cybertron Crosswise looked nothing like RiD Crosswise
• Cybertron Quickmix barely resembled G1 Quickmix
• Cybertron Armorhide looked nothing like RiD Armorhide
• Cybertron Megatron/Galavatron looked nothing like G1 Megatron/Galvatron
• Cybertron Thundercracker barely resembled G1 Thundercracker
• Cybertron Ransack looked nothing like G1 Ransack
• Cybertron Scourge looked nothing like G1 Scourge
• Cybertron Menasor looked nothing like G1 Menasor
• Cybertron Skywarp barely resembled G1 Skywarp
• Cybertron Sky Shadow looked nothing like BW Sky Shadow
• Animated Prowl barely resembled G1 Prowl
• Animated Sentinel Prime looked nothing like any G1 Sentinel Prime
• Animated Jetfire looked nothing like G1 Jetfire
• Animated Safeguard looked nothing like Cybertron Safeguard
• Animated Dirt Boss looked nothing like any previous Dirt Boss
• Animated Oil Slick looked nothing like any previous Oil Slick
• Prime Arcee barely resembled G1 Arcee
• Prime Smokescreen barely resembled G1 Smokescreen
• Prime Knock Out looked nothing like any previous Knockout/Knock Out
• Prime Dreadwing looked nothing like G1 Dreadwing
• From what little we saw of his actual form, Prime Makeshift looked nothing like Armada Makeshift
• The Prime Vehicons looked nothing like the BM Vehicons
• The Prime Insecticons looked nothing like the G1 Insecticons
• Prime Hardshell looked nothing like G1 Bombshell
• Prime Bombshock looked nothing like G1 Bombshock
• The Prime Terrorcons (i.e. - the zombies) looked nothing like the G1 Terrorcons
• Prime Predaking barely resembled G1 Predaking
• Prime Skylynx barely resembled G1 Sky Lynx
• Prime Dead End looked nothing like G1 Dead End
• Prime Skystalker looked nothing like any previous Skystalker

All that said, what harm is there in this design deviating from G1 Grimlock if all of the above were allowed to deviate from the designs of their namesakes?

I don't mind that he doesn't look anything lime g1 Grimlock which is what I know how the movies does by now. I was talking about how I want him to continue to be some big mindless brute. But even more of a brute then before. I love this new Grimlock design.

Sabrblade wrote:

SamYarbrough77 wrote:I just wish we could have them look a little something like the originals. In my humble opinion they deviated way too far away from the original likeness of well, all of them.

What about when we got characters with classic names bu virtually no resemblance to their namesakes in previous TF series? Like, look at the following:

• Beast Wars Scorponok looked nothing like G1 Scorponok
• Beast Wars Inferno looked nothing like G1 Inferno
• Beast Wars Rampage looked nothing like G1 Rampage
• Beast Wars Silverbolt looked nothing like G1 Silverbolt
• Beast Machines Thrust looked nothing like G1 Thrust
• RiD Skid-Z looked nothing like G1 Skids
• RiD Prowl looked nothing like G1 Prowl
• RiD X-Brawn looked nothing like G1 Brawn
• RiD Grimlock looked nothing like G1 Grimlock
• RiD Megatron/Galvatron looked nothing like G1 Megatron/Galvatron
• RiD Scourge looked nothing like G1 Scourge
• Armada Perceptor looked nothing like G1 Perceptor
• Armada Hot Shot looked nothing like RiD Hot Shot
• Armada Red Alert looked nothing like G1 Red Alert
• Armada Smokescreen/Hoist looked nothing like G1 Smokescreen or Hoist
• Armada Blurr looked nothing like G1 Blurr
• Armada Side Swipe looked nothing like G1 Sideswipe
• Armada Megatron/Galvatron looked nothing like G1 Megatron/Galvatron
• Armada Cyclonus looked nothing like G1 Cyclonus
• Armada Thrust barely resembled G1 Thrust
• Armada Wheeljack looked nothing like G1 Wheeljack
• Energon Ironhide looked nothing like G1 Ironhide
• Energon Prowl looked nothing like G1 Prowl
• Energon Landmine looked nothing like G1 Landmine
• Energon Cliffjumper looked nothing like G1 Cliffjumper
• Energon Downshift looked nothing like G1 Downshift
• Energon Roadblock looked nothing like G1 Roadblock
• Energon Sky Shadow looked nothing like BW Sky Shadow
• Energon Terradive looked nothing like G1 Terradive
• Energon Treadshot looked nothing like G1 Treadshot
• Energon Windrazor barely resembled G2 Windrazor
• Energon Tow-Line looked nothing like RiD Tow-Line
• Energon Treadbolt looked nothing like G1 Tread Bolt
• Energon Mirage looked nothing like G1 Mirage
• Energon Six Shot looked nothing like G1 Sixshot
• Energon Sledge looked nothing like G1 Sledge
• Energon Wideload looked nothing like G1 Wideload
• Energon Barricade looked nothing like G1 Barricade
• Energon Blackout looked nothing like G1 Blackout
• Energon Kickback looked nothing like G1 Kickback
• Energon Stormcloud looked nothing like G1 Storm Cloud
• Energon Divebomb barely resembled G1 Divebomb
• Energon Rapid Run looked nothing like RiD Rapid Run
• Energon Sharkticon looked nothing like the G1 Sharkticons
• Energon Dreadwing looked nothing like G1 Dreadwing
• Energon Quickstrike looked nothing like BW Quickstrike
• Cybertron Scattorshot looked nothing like G1 Scattershot
• Cybertron Override looked nothing like G1 Override
• Cybertron Brakedown looked nothing like G1 Breakdown
• Cybertron Snarl looked nothing like G1 Snarl
• Cybertron Crosswise looked nothing like RiD Crosswise
• Cybertron Quickmix barely resembled G1 Quickmix
• Cybertron Armorhide looked nothing like RiD Armorhide
• Cybertron Megatron/Galavatron looked nothing like G1 Megatron/Galvatron
• Cybertron Thundercracker barely resembled G1 Thundercracker
• Cybertron Ransack looked nothing like G1 Ransack
• Cybertron Scourge looked nothing like G1 Scourge
• Cybertron Menasor looked nothing like G1 Menasor
• Cybertron Skywarp barely resembled G1 Skywarp
• Cybertron Sky Shadow looked nothing like BW Sky Shadow
• Animated Prowl barely resembled G1 Prowl
• Animated Sentinel Prime looked nothing like any G1 Sentinel Prime
• Animated Jetfire looked nothing like G1 Jetfire
• Animated Safeguard looked nothing like Cybertron Safeguard
• Animated Dirt Boss looked nothing like any previous Dirt Boss
• Animated Oil Slick looked nothing like any previous Oil Slick
• Prime Arcee barely resembled G1 Arcee
• Prime Smokescreen barely resembled G1 Smokescreen
• Prime Knock Out looked nothing like any previous Knockout/Knock Out
• Prime Dreadwing looked nothing like G1 Dreadwing
• From what little we saw of his actual form, Prime Makeshift looked nothing like Armada Makeshift
• The Prime Vehicons looked nothing like the BM Vehicons
• The Prime Insecticons looked nothing like the G1 Insecticons
• Prime Hardshell looked nothing like G1 Bombshell
• Prime Bombshock looked nothing like G1 Bombshock
• The Prime Terrorcons (i.e. - the zombies) looked nothing like the G1 Terrorcons
• Prime Predaking barely resembled G1 Predaking
• Prime Skylynx barely resembled G1 Sky Lynx
• Prime Dead End looked nothing like G1 Dead End
• Prime Skystalker looked nothing like any previous Skystalker

All that said, what harm is there in this design deviating from G1 Grimlock if all of the above were allowed to deviate from the designs of their namesakes?

AWWWW, I'd LOVE to take a crack at this, but I don't have time and don't want to de-rail the topic. I guess look at it this way; When Sam Raimi said he was making Spider-man a real movie, we expected Peter Parker, not the African american kid from Ultimate spider-man. Obviously, we got Parker, regardless of how much the franchise has grown since it's birth. This is the first time TF has been realised in live action and G1 is the source material, much is the original spidey stories. I don't expect G1 to be the only source for the movies, but those who have a connection to it obviously expect something when they hear certain names. It's not odd really, so long as, once the bar is set (ala the first film) we realise what's happening and let go.

We all know what we think when we hear the name Grimlock. He looks nothing like G1 Grimmy, but he looks big, brutal and is a T-rex

But c'mon, we know none of the RiD name drops don't count Gigatron, Black Convoy, Speedbreaker, Mach Alert, those are the characters we love This is why I don't like the name dropping Hasbro has as a whole.(yeah, probably some TT characters did it too, but it's hasbro names that do it most) I prefer Dreadlock to Jetfire, Excelion to Hot-Shot because I'd rather the universe expand with new characters to add to my favourites.

I suppose it depends on what the names have attached to them. Some work, some don't. Some, Like Energon Galvatron are homages, Armada Cyclonus is so far removed from G1 Cyclonus you KNOW it's not SUPPOSED TO BE the same character. Others like RiD Grimlock is just plain stupid, and others, like animated Prowl just work. Not easy to put common sense to it
Sabes, you could PM me if you want, I love this namesake topic

If he turns out to be a big leader class good toy. Then its going to be him versus my Tf prime beast fire Predaking that I have on display right now or if he turns out to be a small leader class good figure then its going to be him versus my upcoming 3rd party razor claw witch will be on my display shelf soon too. I need some much needed beastly Autobot competition for those to bad guys cause my air attack optimal primal is to tall in robot mode to go against those to beast bad guys I think. I say I think because I still got air attack in package. I can't wait for this

TimothyR wrote:

FurStreak wrote:This is clearly from observing the picture in its rough form. But it looks as if the left shoulder has what looks to be Slags muzzle/beak (Triceratops). The right should looks to be one of the others upper jaw/beak/muzzle. Possibly grimlocks, but I highly doubt it due to the shape, and the previously seen picture of Optimus riding Grimlock into battle.

This is entirely speculation, But from what I can tell, I believe that Michael Bay has introduced DINO KING into the fray. The dino bots combine to form the great Dino King! As I said, this is entirely speculation due to the poor picture posted.

To add to this, the fist on the right hand looks like a spiked tail from a What I would guess to be Slag (Stegosaurus) and the large staff/mace looks to be his spines from along his back as well.

I can only guess this at the moment, But I think that Snarl will become the left arm, Slag will become the right arm. While Grimlock will become the main body and legs. Also, If Swoop is in the fray, I think he would become part of the lower abdomen, while his wings drape around the sides of the thighs and possibly into the front of the combined robot.

Feel free to prove me wrong, as this is all best guess and speculation based on the provided picture.

what photo are you looking at?

specidifcally.. what shoulders are you looking at? CLEARLY one shoulder is the upper head/jaw, and the other shoulder is the lower jaw.. i'm not sure how that isn't obvious.. especially when you factor in the look of grimlocks dinosaur mode that we've seen.. the shoulders look EXACTLY like his dino head.. so i'm not sure what you're looking at. maybe you're right about this being a combination.. but you're definitely wrong about the shoulders. and i wouldn't put it passed bay for grimlock to have weapons that look like these.

I have included the picture with the areas of references magnified and circled to prove my points. As you can clearly see, both shoulders are upper jaws, as they both have nostrils.

I also highlighted what I think would be Swoop as part of the waist, along with his wings draping backwards around the butt of Dino King / King Grimlock

I would also like to point out that Grimlock, Doesn't have a beak. Especially one with nostrils. LOL.

Here is the pic.