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Re: Power Rangers: Samurai

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:27 pm

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Re: Power Rangers: Samurai

Postby robofreak » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:42 am

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Best crossover, they bring back all the season 1 rangers but now they're old, Kimberly and Tommy are divorced because she had a kid with the black ranger and Trini's dead but Billy caries her ashes around with him.



How does that work? Trini's actress is dead, but Tommy never really went anywhere with Kimberly after she left the team. If you watch the Zeo Christmas special, you'll see that Tommy and Kat eventually married and had a family as they imply their grandson is a ranger.

I'm hoping the silver Ranger for the US Gokaiger will be the son of Tommy. That would be freaking epic. He would have the powers of all the 6th rangers.

Back to samurai. I'm trying to watch it, but this series is just painful. Can they put whoever was in charge of writing RPM back in charge of Power Rangers?

I finally got to see RPM and it was probably the best PR series yet and did a great job of turning the Go-Onger footage into a dark storyline. Samurai just didn't live up to the awesome standard that RPM set.

I'm with Shadowman on this. RPM was probably the only series since the Zordon era that I can say I really enjoyed.

I'm not happy about this 2 years behind thing with Sentai now. I've been looking forward to the US Gokaiger and I really hope they don't screw it up. I'm also hoping they allow the pre-MMPR stuff in and write them off as stuff along the lines of alternate Rangers.

Especially the whole aspect of Rangers keys and the fact that the additional Zords all span different series.

I really hope Saban doesn't screw this up.
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Re: Power Rangers: Samurai

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:52 am

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:Best crossover, they bring back all the season 1 rangers but now they're old, Kimberly and Tommy are divorced because she had a kid with the black ranger and Trini's dead but Billy caries her ashes around with him.



How does that work? Trini's actress is dead, but Tommy never really went anywhere with Kimberly after she left the team. If you watch the Zeo Christmas special, you'll see that Tommy and Kat eventually married and had a family as they imply their grandson is a ranger.


1) I was being funny I know Trini's actress is dead. She died in an accident that left Dustin Guwen's wife paralyzed.

2) I never really watched a PR series save for a few episodes of season 1 so I didn't know Tommy ended up with Kat. Interesting since there was a rumor that JDF and AJJ were having an affair in real life.
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Re: Power Rangers: Samurai

Postby Autobot032 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:49 am

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robofreak wrote:Back to samurai. I'm trying to watch it, but this series is just painful. Can they put whoever was in charge of writing RPM back in charge of Power Rangers?


Won't be happening. Saban himself cited the whole lack of humor, too much darkness issue of the past few seasons and said this one would be lighthearted, funnier and return to it's early childhood target roots.

RPM's a standalone piece of beauty that won't return anytime soon. It was groundbreaking and ahead of it's time. You can't replicate that. Especially with Saban at the helm.

robofreak wrote:I finally got to see RPM and it was probably the best PR series yet and did a great job of turning the Go-Onger footage into a dark storyline. Samurai just didn't live up to the awesome standard that RPM set.


I wholeheartedly agree. Samurai, if it continues providing an experience like Clash Of The Red Rangers did, could become my second favorite PR series. However, I'm sure it'll devolve back into camp n kitsch. The toys are at least a saving grace.

robofreak wrote:I'm with Shadowman on this. RPM was probably the only series since the Zordon era that I can say I really enjoyed.


Actually, RPM was so good, it ruined all other PR series for me. MMPR was groundbreaking, I can't deny that. The movie was good enough that I went to the theater for it. Nothing lived up to it, really. Lost interest during the beginning of Ninja... RPM...changed everything for me. The mecha was fantastic, the storyline blew me away and it was just a lot of fun. It wasn't stupid, yet easily accessible for kids.

It proved to me you could have depth, action and still entertain kids and adults. I personally don't think anything will live up to it in PR. Period.

robofreak wrote:I'm not happy about this 2 years behind thing with Sentai now. I've been looking forward to the US Gokaiger and I really hope they don't screw it up. I'm also hoping they allow the pre-MMPR stuff in and write them off as stuff along the lines of alternate Rangers.


I wonder what the parent companies have to say about Saban's plans? From what I was told (by different people) is Saban is contractually obligated to use each year's Sentai offerings. He must convert them over, he's not allowed to skip. iirc...Disney was held to the same standard. I'm not sure how they'll pull off Gokaiger, but from what I hear, there's enough original footage of the pirates, minus the past generations stuff, to make a unique standalone series. It'll be up to the writers to make it really work. Not a job I'd want.

robofreak wrote:Especially the whole aspect of Rangers keys and the fact that the additional Zords all span different series.

I really hope Saban doesn't screw this up.


It might be out of his hands, really. The Ranger keys probably won't happen because I have high doubts that BoA will put that kind of funding into it. I mean, they've stripped down the toys for Wild Force, RPM, MMPRv2 and now Samurai. After seeing all the keys, I sincerely doubt BoA will do it. Or, if they do, that'll be the bulk of the toyline and that'll just SUCK.
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Re: Power Rangers: Samurai

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:28 am

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RPM the best/only good post-Zordon series? Really? No one here seriously liked Lost Galaxy? Lightspeed Rescue? Time Force!? Dino Thunder? SPD? Come on! These were all diamonds in the rough, here!

And I wouldn't give RPM so much credit. After all, it wasn't the first PR series to have such a magnitude of quality. That title belongs to In Space. Time Force later took up the same title shortly after. But it was In Space that took itself and the audience seriously first. A fully serialized storyline from start to finish with adequate character development for both the Rangers AND the villains. The stakes were higher, the risks were greater, the characters all had depth. Why, the two primary villains were some of the best developed character of the whole franchise! And lest we not forget that absolute unbeatable awesomeness that is the Psycho Rangers. :twisted: 8)


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Re: Power Rangers: Samurai

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:35 am

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And who do we have to thank for that? The writers for sticking closer to the original plot of Timeranger. As for the Psycho Rangers, they also appeared in Megaranger as "Jaden Sentai Nejiranger" with much the same personalities.
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Re: Power Rangers: Samurai

Postby robofreak » Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:25 am

Sabrblade, I too like Dino Thunder. When I found out Tommy Oliver was back in that series, I watched it religously.

Now onto Autobot032's thoughts. Sorry, I don't have enough time to mess with the quote button. Maybe I'm just weird, but the dark story of RPM would have been the kind of thing I could really sink my teeth into as a kid. At 4 years old, my favorite series next to MMPR was Gundam and when Outlaw Star came out, that was mind blowingly awesome.

I think Saban thinks children are too delicate. Lighthearted campy acting can be fun, but I think it's time for the series to expand. I really feel that we live in an era of overprotective parents and this is what's going to screw up kids. Yeah, I know I'm going to in depth here, but I'm still bitter about all those parent groups that got my favorite shows edited and cancelled after 9/11.

We have 3 years before Gokaiger hits the US. I'm going to hunt down the toys now cause I don't want to wait 3 year for BoA to destroy the awesome features in those toys.

Can someone tell me why the Samurai toys were so stripped down compared to the Shinkenger versions? I've handled them and I don't think they are as lethal to children as Bandai made them out to be. MMPR 2010 Megazord was cool, but I really hope we don't have an era of Megazords being cross compatible with each other even though they don't relate to each other. Goseiger might be able to break this cause of Gosei Snake.
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Re: Power Rangers: Samurai

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:03 pm

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robofreak wrote:Can someone tell me why the Samurai toys were so stripped down compared to the Shinkenger versions? I've handled them and I don't think they are as lethal to children as Bandai made them out to be. MMPR 2010 Megazord was cool, but I really hope we don't have an era of Megazords being cross compatible with each other even though they don't relate to each other. Goseiger might be able to break this cause of Gosei Snake.


Cost is the best I could think of, as well as to lessen the complexity of the toys themselves. The Origami were rarely used in their Emblem, so why should the toys have them? As a neat extra, albeit nonfunctional, feature of course, but apparently Bandai US doesn't believe in that.
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Re: Power Rangers: Samurai

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:59 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And who do we have to thank for that? The writers for sticking closer to the original plot of Timeranger. As for the Psycho Rangers, they also appeared in Megaranger as "Jaden Sentai Nejiranger" with much the same personalities.
If you're going to go that route, then you should be praising Go-Onger for providing the source material for RPM. I was speaking of the PR series by their own merits alone. Whether or not they stuck close to their Sentai source series didn't matter to what I was saying.

The point I was getting at was that there were several good post-Zordon series to come before RPM. Not all of them were failures. And it was In space that started the streak of really good PR series, and it was way different from Megaranger anyway.
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Re: Power Rangers: Samurai

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:25 pm

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How could would it be if Saban took a turn and used series like Flashman, Fiveman, Liveman, and other older ranger series?
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