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Where is BRAWL???

AbsumZer0 wrote:

Black Bumblebee wrote:To answer the previous question--you have to remember, these events occur in 1969 and in DEEP SPACE. Yes, the Autobots are on the Ark, but far far away from Earth. At the end of the book, the Autobots don't even have any idea that the Allspark is on Earth or even WHERE Earth is.

...so, Bumblebee followed Megatron all the way to our solar system with his protoform/spaceVW mode and then went back to deep space and met-up with the Autobots on the Ark during the 60's?

...not quite.

*Sposible spoilers








The prequal comic occurs before Ghosts of Yesterday. In the book Bumblebee can't talk, but has a little comminucator like device that helps him talk, but it's smashed and destroyed in the book.

Megatron has been frozen on earth for a long time (100 years I think it said). In the 60's Sector Seven launches the rocket Ghost I into space to test out the technology that they reverse engineered from studying Megatron (the Ice man) and when they engage in warp drive (forgot what they called it) and they go a lot farther then planned and end up landing right in the same vicinity as the Ark and Nemisis are just happening to cross each other's paths. So it's kinda like wrong time wrong place senario.

darthsutius wrote:Where is BRAWL???

Brawl was a codename for Barricade (if I'm recalling correctly) and he is in the book.

Neko wrote:

darthsutius wrote:Where is BRAWL???

Brawl was a codename for Barricade (if I'm recalling correctly) and he is in the book.

No, Brawl's the tank. Barricade is the police car.

Neko wrote:...not quite.

*Sposible spoilers



The prequal comic occurs before Ghosts of Yesterday. In the book Bumblebee can't talk, but has a little comminucator like device that helps him talk, but it's smashed and destroyed in the book.

Megatron has been frozen on earth for a long time (100 years I think it said). In the 60's Sector Seven launches the rocket Ghost I into space to test out the technology that they reverse engineered from studying Megatron (the Ice man) and when they engage in warp drive (forgot what they called it) and they go a lot farther then planned and end up landing right in the same vicinity as the Ark and Nemisis are just happening to cross each other's paths. So it's kinda like wrong time wrong place senario.

Alright, I know the comic take place before the book. I know the Ark is located in deep space. What I don't get is this:

At the end of the first issue of the prequel comic Bumblebee goes all Captain Ahab and leaves to pursue Megatron on his own, by himself, not on the Ark.

In the 2nd issue of the prequel comic Bumblebee lands on Mars during the early 2000's and there's no mention of him ever being on the Ark.

In the book Bumblebee is aboard the Ark with the other Autobots in deep space during the 1960's.

If the two share the same continuity then Bumblebee at some time must have rendezvoused with and boarded the Ark, right? Because in the comic he was pursuing Megatron by himself in his comet/flyingVW mode.

AbsumZer0 wrote:Alright, I know the comic take place before the book. I know the Ark is located in deep space. What I don't get is this:

At the end of the first issue of the prequel comic Bumblebee goes all Captain Ahab and leaves to pursue Megatron on his own, by himself, not on the Ark.

In the 2nd issue of the prequel comic Bumblebee lands on Mars during the early 2000's and there's no mention of him ever being on the Ark.

In the book Bumblebee is aboard the Ark with the other Autobots in deep space during the 1960's.

If the two share the same continuity then Bumblebee at some time must have rendezvoused with and boarded the Ark, right? Because in the comic he was pursuing Megatron by himself in his comet/flyingVW mode.

While the comic and book were likely not implicitely planned to work together, there's nothing in the two(judging purely by the synopsis given on this board, I've not read the book) that makes them inherantly different continuities.

In the comic the only thing we're implicitely shown/told is Bumblebee is one of the first to volunteer to hunt the Allspark. And then we're shown a picture of him in space in his comet mode. No take off, nothing.

While it isn't so much as hinted at, there is nothing that implicitly makes it impossible for the entirity of the book to fit inbetween the panels where Bumblebee says he volunteered to leave Cybertron and where he's seen in space headed towards Mars.

All Bumblebee tells us is that he is 'One of the first to leave.' One of, implying a group. That group could easily be the crew of the Ark.

Shoddy story telling? Possibly, if you look only at the big picture. But I'd say it's to be expected from two entirely different creative teams working in two entirely different mediums, likely completely independant of eachother. The fact that the two CAN work together is rather surprising, IMO, given the circumstances.

Archibald Witwicky wrote:

AbsumZer0 wrote:Alright, I know the comic take place before the book. I know the Ark is located in deep space. What I don't get is this:

At the end of the first issue of the prequel comic Bumblebee goes all Captain Ahab and leaves to pursue Megatron on his own, by himself, not on the Ark.

In the 2nd issue of the prequel comic Bumblebee lands on Mars during the early 2000's and there's no mention of him ever being on the Ark.

In the book Bumblebee is aboard the Ark with the other Autobots in deep space during the 1960's.

If the two share the same continuity then Bumblebee at some time must have rendezvoused with and boarded the Ark, right? Because in the comic he was pursuing Megatron by himself in his comet/flyingVW mode.

While the comic and book were likely not implicitely planned to work together, there's nothing in the two(judging purely by the synopsis given on this board, I've not read the book) that makes them inherantly different continuities.

In the comic the only thing we're implicitely shown/told is Bumblebee is one of the first to volunteer to hunt the Allspark. And then we're shown a picture of him in space in his comet mode. No take off, nothing.

While it isn't so much as hinted at, there is nothing that implicitly makes it impossible for the entirity of the book to fit inbetween the panels where Bumblebee says he volunteered to leave Cybertron and where he's seen in space headed towards Mars.

All Bumblebee tells us is that he is 'One of the first to leave.' One of, implying a group. That group could easily be the crew of the Ark.

Shoddy story telling? Possibly, if you look only at the big picture. But I'd say it's to be expected from two entirely different creative teams working in two entirely different mediums, likely completely independant of eachother. The fact that the two CAN work together is rather surprising, IMO, given the circumstances.

I haven't seen issue 2 yet, so I'm still in the dark on what happens in there.

But it's not convulsing to say that Prime stopped Bumblebee from taking off on his own and instead made him an Ark crew member...

Damn, I'm nerding out again. Where's my pill?

didnt read any post i dont want to spoil it but i got a question.

where does ghosts of yesterday pick up? at the end of the comic book series? or somewhere in the middle of it?

Mr.RobotAutoMan wrote:didnt read any post i dont want to spoil it but i got a question.

where does ghosts of yesterday pick up? at the end of the comic book series? or somewhere in the middle of it?

It's after the comic.

Neko wrote:

Mr.RobotAutoMan wrote:didnt read any post i dont want to spoil it but i got a question.

where does ghosts of yesterday pick up? at the end of the comic book series? or somewhere in the middle of it?

It's after the comic.

That's not strictly correct.

It's in the middle of the comic. All of the first issue and half of the second is pre-book. Half of the second, and presumably the third and fourth are post book.