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Re: Project Genesis

Postby That Bot » Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:38 pm

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Galaxy Express 999. I rest my case.

I don't see anybody saying Genesis is not a marvel of a figure. I see people saying it's more expensive than they're willing to spend on a WFC Omega Supreme, and that Hasbro's much cheaper alternative fills in their Classics OS needs well enough.
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Re: Project Genesis

Postby mbd88prime » Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:43 pm

Motto: ""Freedom is the right of all sentient beings""
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craggy wrote:to be fair, once its in space a train is no less practical than a space ship.


haha thats true as long as there was propulsion and maneuvering thrusters of some sort you're right. hell if os was equipped with an ftl drive it wouldn't even really need propulsion ala battlestar galactica base stars.

But then why be a train unless omega supreme is a railroading entheusiest when he's not obliterating cons. i suppose if i could transform into something i enjoyed rather than an alt mode just being utilitarian i would.

btw i like trains, i have a sizeable collection of those too. i guess my main point about this sub- topic is that if im gonna pay anything above, i dunno, $50 for a transformer, small or large, third party or not, we're talking collector piece dollar amounts so the alt mode should be less of a kids fantasy type mode and more of a war machine or scale model of a car or something.

all just my opinion. anyone that likes yots os is perfectly justified in so doing of course. If genesis was not an option i very well might jump on board the space train!

I simply felt a sort of compulsion to defend genesis and planet x because they did way more work in creating genesis than did hasbro in lazily retooling and recoloring a pre existing figure, removing electronics, and doubling the price! I think planet x went through alot of work to bring something really special to us fans whereas, as usual, hasbro simply saw a way to use our love of the hobby to get more money out of a mold. A sound financial strategy to be sure but ultimately why they will lose my money, and others money, to a third party.....again.....
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Re: Project Genesis

Postby Agamemnon » Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:44 pm

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That Bot wrote:Galaxy Express 999. I rest my case.

I don't see anybody saying Genesis is not a marvel of a figure. I see people saying it's more expensive than they're willing to spend on a WFC Omega Supreme, and that Hasbro's much cheaper alternative fills in their Classics OS needs well enough.


^ Uh, yuppers! :D

I like Genesis because of the video game aesthetics. I do not care for the direction the Bayformers have gone. (I'm about ready to sell my set. Somewhere my wife just cheered.) So, I don't think I'm all in for the monkey arms. I mean, really, I've got G1 Omega in my display case fighting Herc and he has wimpy upper arms, and overly long, bulky fore arms. I'd say that there is still that monkey arm aesthetic you describe, Rated X.

And md88prime, there were a lot of great toys in the Energon line (where YOS Omega came from). Downshift was a fantastic homage to Wheeljack that was fun to play with. I liked Starscream and Galvatron. Battle ravage was cool. The Fansproject add-ons made them awesome, but there's the combiner teams of Bruticus and Superion, and a version of Devastator that wasn't completely horrible. Grimlock and Swoop were fun in all their modes, even combined, though it was hard to pose them. Insecticon, Arcee, Rodimus, Shockblast, and the almighty Scorponok. It was a fun line. I even liked the dual combiners like Hotshot, Jetfire, Inferno, and the rest.

I don't even know where to go with the Train Bots. If ever there was a cartoon intended to sell toys, it was the Headmaster series. Suspension of disbelief? Phaw! This is almost worse than the mass shifting from Soundwave and Megatron to the Pretenders.

What were we talking about again? Oh, yes. If Genesis was the price of YOS Omega, I'd be all over it like dark energon on Cliffy.
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Re: Project Genesis

Postby mbd88prime » Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:01 pm

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That Bot wrote:Galaxy Express 999. I rest my case.

I don't see anybody saying Genesis is not a marvel of a figure. I see people saying it's more expensive than they're willing to spend on a WFC Omega Supreme, and that Hasbro's much cheaper alternative fills in their Classics OS needs well enough.


not in so many words no but after a few dozen ape arm, color nitpick, and aesthetic comments they might as well be.

anyway the complaints ive seen on this forum are no more or less than usual, again, i just felt the need to defend planet x

agamemnon, whats good is relative so we're both right which means hasbro wins :ic$: haha
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Re: Project Genesis

Postby Rated X » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:42 pm

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Agamemnon wrote:
I like Genesis because of the video game aesthetics. I do not care for the direction the Bayformers have gone. (I'm about ready to sell my set. Somewhere my wife just cheered.) So, I don't think I'm all in for the monkey arms. I mean, really, I've got G1 Omega in my display case fighting Herc and he has wimpy upper arms, and overly long, bulky fore arms. I'd say that there is still that monkey arm aesthetic you describe, Rated X.



There seems to be alot of confusion about what people mean when they say the term "G1". Some people use it to describe G1 toy accuracy. Others use it to describe G1 cartoon accuracy. I ALWAYS use it to describe CARTOON accuracy. If I wanted toy accuracy, I would just buy the 80's toys and not worry about a classics upgrade that has more cartoon aesthetics that the original toys lacked. With that being said, Im not seeing any monkey arms here:

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Although the G1 toy does have sort of monkey arms, the G1 cartoon and comic book artists must of saw how stupid it looked and said f**k that...

So the FOC designers decided to bring the monkey arms back and make them even BIGGER than the G1 toy's arms. I say that s**t looks ugly as f**k. And even if I was a video game fan, I would still say the same s**t. Just my opinion.

Also, I dont understand why people keep saying Year of the Snake Omega is supposed to be FOC Omega. It is clearly meant to homage G1 Omega. The arms are not red like FOC Omega. And while the claw on YOTS Omega does slightly resemble the FOC claw, everything else on the repaint and the new head screams G1.
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Re: Project Genesis

Postby Agamemnon » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:58 pm

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I see what you are saying there, X. However, I'm not sure Genesis matches up to the, um, donut eating body shape of the cartoon and comic aesthetics. :D

mdb88prime, I think if you go back, all of the detriments you are talking about come from Rated X. :P The rest of us have pretty much praised Genesis, with only complaints about price and the initial colors until they toned them down.

[Edit] oh, and I think the reason some are considering the YoS Energon repaint/remold an homage to the FoC Omega is due to the remarkably game accurate claw remold.
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Re: Project Genesis

Postby xyl360 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:07 pm

Well, all I know is I'm waiting for the first review, and if it ends up good and I've got the fundage at the time, I'm pulling the trigger on Genesis and he will be mine (and I might not even wait for the review because I keep getting more and more tempted :P).

He's going to look great towering over WfC Megatron :D.
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Re: Project Genesis

Postby Banjo-Tron » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:35 am

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I don't think there's a need to defend a figure because people think it is too large, too expensive or just not an aesthetic match for someone's own view of Omega Supreme. They're not saying it is a horribe figure.

Plus the irony of someone 'defending' a single figure by slagging off an entire Hasbro toyline and any subsequent retools isn't lost on me.
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Re: Project Genesis

Postby mbd88prime » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:21 pm

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"Plus the irony of someone 'defending' a single figure by slagging off an entire Hasbro toyline and any subsequent retools isn't lost on me."

well when you put it that way....haha but seriously, ironic or not, i would rather have one genesis than the entire energon line...... in concept. in reality if given the choice i would choose to take the entire energon line and then sell it for tfs more to my liking. Love that or hate that but hey to each his own.

as far as rated x being the sole dissenter that may be true on seiberton forums. i kinda meant all comments on the forums that i watch which includes seibertron, tformers, and tfw2005. I really didnt mean to pick on anyone, just voicing my opinion like anyone else

i must say at this point though that the new third party set for yots omega supreme looks pretty cool. if only they could swap out his left hand for a blaster arm and maybe make the "wings" a little smaller i would actually consider getting yots os and the upgrade set
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Re: Project Genesis

Postby Banjo-Tron » Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:37 pm

Motto: "My banjo is everything; defeat is ukelele"
mbd88prime wrote:i must say at this point though that the new third party set for yots omega supreme looks pretty cool. if only they could swap out his left hand for a blaster arm and maybe make the "wings" a little smaller i would actually consider getting yots os and the upgrade set


Eh? Do you have a link? Sounds interesting :)
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Re: Project Genesis

Postby xyl360 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:59 pm

Banjo-Tron wrote:
mbd88prime wrote:i must say at this point though that the new third party set for yots omega supreme looks pretty cool. if only they could swap out his left hand for a blaster arm and maybe make the "wings" a little smaller i would actually consider getting yots os and the upgrade set


Eh? Do you have a link? Sounds interesting :)

Your link sir :).
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Re: Project Genesis

Postby Banjo-Tron » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:14 am

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xyl360 wrote:
Banjo-Tron wrote:
mbd88prime wrote:i must say at this point though that the new third party set for yots omega supreme looks pretty cool. if only they could swap out his left hand for a blaster arm and maybe make the "wings" a little smaller i would actually consider getting yots os and the upgrade set


Eh? Do you have a link? Sounds interesting :)

Your link sir :).

Thanks for the link! Not sure about the Scaelextric backpack but could be promising.
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Re: Project Genesis

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Re: Project Genesis

Postby Rated X » Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:13 am

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I just cant get past those huge arms. That blaster looks like a rose bud about to bloom.
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Re: Project Genesis

Postby That Bot » Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:06 pm

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A rose bud about to bloom into lasers and mass Decepticide, maybe. :P If I had a place for it, and money, I'd probably get it exactly as it is. But I don't, and I don't, so I won't.
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Re: Project Genesis

Postby Blurrz » Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:43 pm

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I guess this is a sort of a dream figure for me.... but with HasTak being so ever stingy with the WFC/FOC roster, this sort of feels completely out of place.
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Re: Project Genesis

Postby xyl360 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:09 pm

daimchoc wrote:c/o Planet Iacon

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OK, that's it, I'm convinced, it's perfect. He WILL be mine :D!

WfC Megatron will tremble before his might!!!

edit:...but not until next month when I can (hopefully) afford it better :P!
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Re: Project Genesis

Postby xyl360 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:14 pm

Rated X wrote:I just cant get past those huge arms. That blaster looks like a rose bud about to bloom.

Yes, exactly as it appeared in the game. We get it, you HATE the way he looks in the game. Enough, it isn't G1 Omega Supreme. These guys did their job perfectly and if you don't believe me, just look up images of War for Cybertron Omega Supreme and compare them.

Go troll the High Moon Studios forums if you hate the video game version's design.
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Re: Project Genesis

Postby Agamemnon » Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:14 pm

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daimchoc wrote:c/o Planet Iacon

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Burn me, but that looks good. I wonder how quickly I could sell my movie figures, for enough money, to get this. Plus, it would open shelf space.

Burn me....
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Re: Project Genesis

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Re: Project Genesis

Postby xyl360 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:50 am

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Every picture I see of this thing makes it look better and better. That settles it. Once my tax refund gets deposited into my account, he's mine :D!
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Re: Project Genesis

Postby daimchoc » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:43 am

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i promise you bro there is a base mode, i have had pics of it for months, why they want it to be last minute i dont know, but two reviewers have their wfc omegas in customs and im sure they will show the base mode. i was told not to show it so i have to honor their wishes until they say its ok, but the arms do come off and combine to make a rocket and the rest is made into a launch side platform thingy
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Re: Project Genesis

Postby feeiq90 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:11 am

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weird..the arms no longer look too big anymore..will be getting him for sure :D
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Re: Project Genesis

Postby Banjo-Tron » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:00 am

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Yeah the arms do look less huge than before. Looks like the colour pallette has been muted somewhat and this has made all the difference in my opinon. This is as perfect a WFC figure as we are likely to see! Hasbro, take note (better bring a whole pad)
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Re: Project Genesis

Postby craggy » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:53 am

does look rather snazzy now. been a bit of a rollercoaster this guy. won't get him myself, he's just too expensive for me, but looks like he'll be good for those that do. wouldn't mind seeing him up against one of the Devastators we've got recently.
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