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Rated X wrote:So why would Hasbro allign a bunch of continuities that most collectors hate at least one ? Especially Rescue Bots. Thats just flat out dumb.

Hold it right there. Rescue Bots is awesome. Stop trying to make opinions on things you haven't experienced.

As for why they would do this, it's so that all TF fiction going forward is in one universe (except the ongoing IDW G1 comics and the Bayformers movies). The 2000s had an explosion of several different TF continuities happening simultaneously and the brand reinventing itself every couple of months, so for the 2010s they're trying to bring everything back under one banner. They're saying "This is the new Transformers". I think it's an interesting idea. You can have a bunch of stories told within the universe that don't have a lot in common, but occasionally overlap, and that's really cool to me.

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Rated X wrote:So why would Hasbro allign a bunch of continuities that most collectors hate at least one ? Especially Rescue Bots. Thats just flat out dumb.

Hold it right there. Rescue Bots is awesome. Stop trying to make opinions on things you haven't experienced.

As for why they would do this, it's so that all TF fiction going forward is in one universe (except the ongoing IDW G1 comics and the Bayformers movies). The 2000s had an explosion of several different TF continuities happening simultaneously and the brand reinventing itself every couple of months, so for the 2010s they're trying to bring everything back under one banner. They're saying "This is the new Transformers". I think it's an interesting idea. You can have a bunch of stories told within the universe that don't have a lot in common, but occasionally overlap, and that's really cool to me.

Theres nothing wrong with stories crossing paths occasionaly. I liked when the Beast Wars bots found the original Autobots ark. I liked seeing an aging Cobra Commander get a cameo apperance on a later G1 episode. I like continuities crossing paths when it it is a product of the scriptwriters and animators creativity and it actually makes sense. But I dont like it being used as a corporate publicity stunt being dictated by Hasbro executives who DONT write the fiction. Imagine if Kreo or Botshots gets a cartoon. Could you imagine Hasbro (corporate) forcing the script writers to tell a story on how the G1 characters became the Botshots ? It's almost as bad as Marvel trying to justify why Action Masters couldnt transform.

I have yet to watch Rescue Bots. The fact that it is geared towards children under 5 makes me not too interested. One day I will give it a chance. But if Bob the Builder makes a guest appearance youre gonna hear it from me !

Well the production teams know going in that they're making a product that ties into the Aligned continuity, and they have to pull from the Binder of Revelation, so they're not being forced into it any more than any other writer or producer is ever forced to make a product that conforms with what Hasbro has in mind.

Bob the Builder doesn't make any appearances in Rescue Bots, but Tim Curry does. Make of that what you will.

That Bot wrote:Well the production teams know going in that they're making a product that ties into the Aligned continuity, and they have to pull from the Binder of Revelation, so they're not being forced into it any more than any other writer or producer is ever forced to make a product that conforms with what Hasbro has in mind.

Bob the Builder doesn't make any appearances in Rescue Bots, but Tim Curry does. Make of that what you will.

I see it more as restricting creativity. Tomorrow the Hasbro CEO could have a wet dream and say "were going to expand the Barbie continuity into Transformers to supplement the human aspect". These guys need to shut up and go count their money and leave storylines to the scriptwriters who do it for a living. Hasbro recently announced they will make an Easy Bake Oven that isnt pink for little boys. Can we get that in the script too ? Maybe Im exaggerating a bit, but surely you must agree this whole concept is more corporate than anything else ? It's surely not something the script writers or artists came up with.

Scriptwriters and artists are always limited by the creative direction of the people funding their project. Thus far the Aligned Continuity has not been detrimental to the brand, I think it will continue to be fine and not detrimental.

So how about that Genesis?

Rated X wrote:

That Bot wrote:

Rated X wrote:So why would Hasbro allign a bunch of continuities that most collectors hate at least one ? Especially Rescue Bots. Thats just flat out dumb.

Hold it right there. Rescue Bots is awesome. Stop trying to make opinions on things you haven't experienced.

As for why they would do this, it's so that all TF fiction going forward is in one universe (except the ongoing IDW G1 comics and the Bayformers movies). The 2000s had an explosion of several different TF continuities happening simultaneously and the brand reinventing itself every couple of months, so for the 2010s they're trying to bring everything back under one banner. They're saying "This is the new Transformers". I think it's an interesting idea. You can have a bunch of stories told within the universe that don't have a lot in common, but occasionally overlap, and that's really cool to me.

Theres nothing wrong with stories crossing paths occasionaly. I liked when the Beast Wars bots found the original Autobots ark. I liked seeing an aging Cobra Commander get a cameo apperance on a later G1 episode. I like continuities crossing paths when it it is a product of the scriptwriters and animators creativity and it actually makes sense. But I dont like it being used as a corporate publicity stunt being dictated by Hasbro executives who DONT write the fiction. Imagine if Kreo or Botshots gets a cartoon. Could you imagine Hasbro (corporate) forcing the script writers to tell a story on how the G1 characters became the Botshots ? It's almost as bad as Marvel trying to justify why Action Masters couldnt transform.

I have yet to watch Rescue Bots. The fact that it is geared towards children under 5 makes me not too interested. One day I will give it a chance. But if Bob the Builder makes a guest appearance youre gonna hear it from me !

Beast Wars and G1, as far as I know, were always intended to be the same universe, not a random crossover. If was a random crossover, you might've seen names or places homaged, but not outright included. G1 was very much a part of Beast Wars and it's apparently intended.

The Ark, Voyager and Starscream's ghost... And in different episodes at different times... That's definitely more than random crossovers. That's intentional.

There's nothing wrong with WFC/FOC/Prime/Beast Hunters being the same continuity. Bayverse is it's own, this is it's own and G1/BW/BM is it's own. The Unicron Trilogy is another example of being a singular continuity with many pieces. RID (2001) is the only stand alone I can think of. You can't count Classics/Universe as a series because it's merely a toyline with a blurb to sell the product. Nothing more, nothing less.

Rated X wrote:

That Bot wrote:Well the production teams know going in that they're making a product that ties into the Aligned continuity, and they have to pull from the Binder of Revelation, so they're not being forced into it any more than any other writer or producer is ever forced to make a product that conforms with what Hasbro has in mind.

Bob the Builder doesn't make any appearances in Rescue Bots, but Tim Curry does. Make of that what you will.

I see it more as restricting creativity. Tomorrow the Hasbro CEO could have a wet dream and say "were going to expand the Barbie continuity into Transformers to supplement the human aspect". These guys need to shut up and go count their money and leave storylines to the scriptwriters who do it for a living. Hasbro recently announced they will make an Easy Bake Oven that isnt pink for little boys. Can we get that in the script too ? Maybe Im exaggerating a bit, but surely you must agree this whole concept is more corporate than anything else ? It's surely not something the script writers or artists came up with.

Restricting creativity? Not at all. Hasbro's even said they could do what they needed to for each piece, so long as the overall story ties in. That's why pieces of each contradict sometimes. It's even been said that Hasbro recognizes it and allows it.

I just wish you would read up more on stuff like this and educate yourself before posting some of this stuff. All it does is promote a need for people to argue and bicker over ultimately pointless stuff. We're talking about toys and video games, but get angry and fight like we're talking about life and death. It's silly and could be helped so much if people would just pay attention and read, rather than be attention seekers causing trouble, either intentionally or not.

And as for Genesis/Omega Supreme? Your desire is absolutely pointless for this figure. Wanting Crazy Devy to change this figure ruins the figure. Genesis is almost a 100% perfect replication of the WFC character model. I mean, you'd swear he walked out of the screen and onto your desk. This is how he's supposed to look. Changing him even a bit to look like G1 would absolutely ruin the figure. It's existence would be pointless.

And what I don't understand is... If you're not going to buy it, then why complain about it or let it affect you? I'm not saying you shouldn't have a voice, but a poster even said you bring this out in people. That statement can be taken two ways, and generally that tends to be a negative way when people are spoken of in such a manner.

I can't afford it, I can't get it, so I'm not going to complain about it. If I do have any comments on it, it's this: Amazing work, way too expensive, but definitely a worthy work of art.

Good points. No offense taken at all.

But altering Genesis to be more G1 wouldnt be ruining the figure. Especially when any Crazy Devy add on can be removed should the figure ever be sold. Do you feel I ruined this FOC shockwave ?



It can easily be converted back to the way Hasbro intended it which I feel is inferior to the mods I gave it. Just my personal opinion. Weve seen people customize Hercules, FP Bruticus, and other very expensive figures. Im sure Genesis will not escape the hands of Frenzy/Rumble, Encline, or our very own extremely talented Getrightrobot. Then theyll turn around and flip it for $1200 to some rich european collector. Im not in that spending league, but I could afford a regular Genesis plus a $60 add on set. That is if they ever make one. Continuities aside, everything is awesome to me except the arms. What you call ruining, I would call enhancing. Just like Headrobots sets.