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Rated X wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

Rated X wrote:<Edited to get this point> I could afford a regular Genesis plus a $60 add on set. That is if they ever make one. Continuities aside, everything is awesome to me except the arms. What you call ruining, I would call enhancing. Just like Headrobots sets.

On this point, have you considered what this might do to the transformation? Not looking to fight, looking to move on and address the mod you propose. The arms are integral parts of the left and right wings and the thrusters in the back. From what you describe, I'm not sure this would look very good in alt mode.

But then I will fully agree that I am biased by the design in the video game.

Just like my FOC Shockwave with Cyclonus legs and no wings, I have pretty much tossed the alt mode out the window. In my honest opinion FOC Omega's spaceship mode looks like his robot mode all folded up rather than a serious looking space ship. Since the Activision artists never envisioned an actual transforming toy being created, they should have went with a more conventional ark style space ship instead of that space station looking jet booster thing they came up with. It worked out real well being that a 3rd party brought the artwork to life in both modes including transformation. But if Hasbro had done it, everyone would have complained about the crappy "fold up the robot" alt mode. (hence re-entry mode ROTF Ravage) Im a G1 fan so Im pretty stuck on the whole reason he has one blaster hand and one claw hand to combine and form a conventional rocket. I understand you favor FOC Omega as a video game fan and want game accuracy. Obviously we cant change the game. But if we could go back in time and stop the activison artists from giving him "monkey arms" would you be opposed to it ? I mean the same FOC Omega transforming into into the same spaceship you seem to like, but with no monkey arms in robot mode...Wouldnt that be cool ???

I actually quite like the video game aesthetics. I always though Omega had a "monkey arms" look, as you put it. I have the G1 encore, and they also look very similar in proportion.

Given how he transforms in the game (and I'm not sure I would agree with your point that the artists didn't think about it) the arms seem to mesh perfectly. Perhaps they could have been slimmer, but I like it the way it is. I had envisioned how the thing transforms. That's why I really like this Genesis. Oh, if only I could win the lottery or something.

i think most people would rather have genesis for the same price as yots os. when has anyone ever wanted a half- assed (red foot, clear HAND not cannon, etc) repaint and partial retool over a completely new, larger, and more detailed version of the same character?

as for alt mode maybe its a stretch for a spaceship but at least i get the mechanics of a spaceship, can anyone describe to me how a space train works or how practical it would be were any of this a reality?

as far as debating whether its cannon or not because its based off of a video game rendition of omega supreme, thats more cannon than a random repaint/retool isn't it?

i think, and this is not directed at anyone in particular, that many people are simply trying to convince themselves and, in turn, others that genesis is inferior to yots os in some way simply because they dont want to spend the mula on genesis,which is understandable i do that all the time, but I mean yots os is based off of a figure that is from a line filled with clunky, blocky, kid-oriented transformers. the only line of transformers for which i cant even think of a reason to buy a single item from it and i own around 1,500 transformers. i dont need much of a reason!

this is all not meant to offend or be caustic but to support the following statement:

planet x done good and we all know it.

of course the first 3rd party to create a giant fig in the scorponok/overlord/unicron size class will be ridiculed the first person or group of people to do anything is always ridiculed. But they have set a standard here that will be hard to match, again, depending on whether or not there are qc issues yet to be revealed. he was holding a supreme class fig over his head with one hand unsupported for hours though......

Agreed.

Coming from someone who, not 10 mins ago, almost pressed "add to cart" on YOTS OS.

I'm very excited to see the actual final product from Planet X, even if I don't plan on buying it.

to be fair, once its in space a train is no less practical than a space ship.

craggy wrote:to be fair, once its in space a train is no less practical than a space ship.

Lol...um...trains require tracks. I see no thrusters on him anywhere for propulsion. Therefore, unless the cosmos are lousy with railroad tracks, OS is SOL when he's in space.