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Shockwave Superior wrote:yet somehow get's more sales then sony, wins the console wars, improves the failures that Nintendo refused to accept,
Nintendo is no competeion, that is something the ps3 and 360 can both accept,

Oh, young one. You have so much to learn. Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft make and sell video games. Wii is outselling the PS3 and 360 significantly, it hasn't actually failed. They are all competing to sell games to people. Quality is irrelevant. (Hence why people continue to give attention to Madden NFL)

Shockwave Superior wrote:also, the wii didn't even MAKE IT to the conole wars lol

You also have much to learn about the console wars. They happen to be entirely matters of opinion, there is NEVER a clear-cut winner or loser. You could say the Xbox lost the last war because it was the first console to die off, you could also say it succeeded and was the first console to really make use of online play. Wii is a console, ergo it is part of the console wars.

I'm still waiting for you to make the argument I know you're going to make. Go on, say it. Say the K-word, it has to come up in EVERY painfully misinformed Wii bash-fest.

Hardware specs: PS3 In terms of pure power the PS3 would win.

Features straight of the box: PS3 wins Blu-Ray, Wireless connection, internet browser,

Games: Xbox 360 Simply put the games that I want to play are on both systems but there are currently a few more exclusives (Fable 2, Fable 3, Mass Effect 1, and Alan Wake) that I want to as well the arcade.

Online features: Xbox 360. PSN is a pain to navigate and it's a pain to fine anything on the PS Store. XBL is simple and streamlined.

Cyberstrike wrote:Hardware specs: PS3 In terms of pure power the PS3 would win.

Features straight of the box: PS3 wins Blu-Ray, Wireless connection, internet browser,

Games: Xbox 360 Simply put the games that I want to play are on both systems but there are currently a few more exclusives (Fable 2, Fable 3, Mass Effect 1, and Alan Wake) that I want to as well the arcade.

Online features: Xbox 360. PSN is a pain to navigate and it's a pain to fine anything on the PS Store. XBL is simple and streamlined.

Good information and very appreciated.

Games: Xbox 360 Simply put the games that I want to play are on both systems but there are currently a few more exclusives (Fable 2, Fable 3, Mass Effect 1, and Alan Wake) that I want to as well the arcade.

Which everything on 360 is on PC. If you have a solid computer and a PS3...you have absolutely no reason own a 360. The same can not be said for PS3 exclusives.

Online features: Xbox 360. PSN is a pain to navigate and it's a pain to fine anything on the PS Store. XBL is simple and streamlined.

What exactly is difficult to interface about it? It has options to sort whatever you tell it to. I've never had trouble finding anything new on it.

I play on the PSN and never have any issues. I get dropped from a game because the host left typically in war for cybertron.(which is a problem the game has on both systems.) Not because my connect to them sucks. I always hear people say how much better the Xbox live set up is, but it just seems like a fallacy for how smooth my experiences are on the PSN.

As for playing on Xbox live, there's way more trolls on it. Their community is pretty lousy at times. I barely ever hear anyone trash talk on the PSN. Only about a 5th of the people seem even have headsets.(which is how I prefer it. I have little desire to chat with random people. I just came to game.) If they do talk trash, it's very minor and there's usually some degree of sportsmanship. (atleast for any of the games I've played.)I'm sure there's jerks on both, but I don't seem stumble into them with remotely the frequency.

i need help yes i do i own a xbox360 and a playstation 3 i really need to know which call of duty black ops should i buy 360 or ps3 omg i really dont want to buy both because i have a feeling thats what i will be told anyways serious what do you people think

Lastjustice wrote:

Games: Xbox 360 Simply put the games that I want to play are on both systems but there are currently a few more exclusives (Fable 2, Fable 3, Mass Effect 1, and Alan Wake) that I want to as well the arcade.

Which everything on 360 is on PC. If you have a solid computer and a PS3...you have absolutely no reason own a 360. The same can not be said for PS3 exclusives.

I'm not a big fan of keyboard and mouse as a gamepad, for me it's like playing a game with boxing gloves, and my PC isn't that powerful and I don't have the money to upgrade it.

What exactly is difficult to interface about it? It has options to sort whatever you tell it to. I've never had trouble finding anything new on it.

I can't find any features, that I want to use.

I play on the PSN and never have any issues. I get dropped from a game because the host left typically in war for cybertron.(which is a problem the game has on both systems.) Not because my connect to them sucks. I always hear people say how much better the Xbox live set up is, but it just seems like a fallacy for how smooth my experiences are on the PSN.

As for playing on Xbox live, there's way more trolls on it. Their community is pretty lousy at times. I barely ever hear anyone trash talk on the PSN. Only about a 5th of the people seem even have headsets.(which is how I prefer it. I have little desire to chat with random people. I just came to game.) If they do talk trash, it's very minor and there's usually some degree of sportsmanship. (atleast for any of the games I've played.)I'm sure there's jerks on both, but I don't seem stumble into them with remotely the frequency.

I have never had any problems with trolls.

That's weird, I could have sworn I posted in here earlier today...

Lastjustice wrote:Which everything on 360 is on PC. If you have a solid computer and a PS3...you have absolutely no reason own a 360. The same can not be said for PS3 exclusives.

You're wrong about that. Out of the 360's 779 games, 594 are on multiple consoles, 73 are shared only with PC, and 112 are on no other systems. PS3 has a very similar list with about 130 less games.

For me, my choice was all about the history I've had with each console.

I burned through 3 of the original Playstation. 2 PSX and one of the small PS1. Each of them died for no apparent reason. Similarly, I went through two PS2 consoles. One just stopped working, and the second stopped saving games. I am not rough on consoles. I keep them clean, safe and take good care of them.

I have never, as yet, had to replace an Xbox. The 360 was an easy choice, in my mind.

So now I have an XBox and Wii.

Say what you want about Nintendo, but let's be real: the PS2 died if a butterfly farted outside. Meanwhile, you could take your GameCube or N64 and throw it out of an airplane onto a soccer field where they would then kick it around for an entire game, after which they would throw it away, and then a grizzly bear would find it, shove it up its ass and then **** it into an erupting volcano, and when you finally dug it out of all the hardened lava, that son of a bitch would STILL WORK.

For me it was the opposite, I've owned two PS2 (Not because the first one broke, mind you, it's kind of an complicated story) and I haven't had problems with either one of them.

Shadowman wrote:That's weird, I could have sworn I posted in here earlier today...

Lastjustice wrote:Which everything on 360 is on PC. If you have a solid computer and a PS3...you have absolutely no reason own a 360. The same can not be said for PS3 exclusives.

You're wrong about that. Out of the 360's 779 games, 594 are on multiple consoles, 73 are shared only with PC, and 112 are on no other systems. PS3 has a very similar list with about 130 less games.

That list is not only out-of-date, out of the 100 or so, "unique titles", there are only a strict handful that aren't re-hashes or are actually worth playing.

On the topic of console life; everyone is well aware that the X360 has the worst history, anything else is subjective.

Blitzfire wrote:That list is not only out-of-date

Neither of the lists are out-of-date. They list games that were released yesterday, (For example, Call of Duty: Black Ops) and games that haven't even been released yet. (Everything after Call of Duty: Black Ops) You know you can rearrange those to list the releases by date, right?

Shadowman wrote:

Blitzfire wrote:That list is not only out-of-date

Neither of the lists are out-of-date. They list games that were released yesterday, (For example, Call of Duty: Black Ops) and games that haven't even been released yet. (Everything after Call of Duty: Black Ops) You know you can rearrange those to list the releases by date, right?

Of course, because Black Ops is the single-most obscure title available for X360, amirite? Gawd, how'd they ever manage to pick that nugget up?

...

If you don't feel "out-of-date" is the correct term, then "inaccurate" may be somewhat more apt; whichever you prefer there are numerous inconsistencies...

- Beautiful Katamari has been ported to PS3 under the banner of Katamari Forever.
- Ninja Gaiden 2 has had the same treatment (w/ some skoo-whiff, offbeat name upgrade that I don't remember).
- Warhammer: Battle March is also available for the PC, but is listed as an exclusive.

...and they're not the only ones; that's just what I picked up from skimming the list.

Then you have the extensive list of prequels and now defunct titles that can hardly be used as credible ammo for the quantity of exclusive X360 titles. Does anyone today really care if the first Saint's Row is exclusive? Games like Chromehounds (sadly) are also no longer supported online, completely killing their appeal.

I mean, it's a wonder they've picked up on Mass Effect 2... Oh wait! ME2 on PS3 will have extra content, so score one more exclusive up for the green box!

No.

Once you whittle this down and segregate the shovelware from the saviors, you end up with a very minimal list of worthwhile titles that you cannot get elsewhere. Lastjustice's stance is moreover a general viewpoint and you've tried to trump it with an otherwise impratical and illogical technicality. Maybe if you knew more about the subject matter at hand than how to quote one of the most innaccurate web repositories of our time, you'd understand this.

Blitzfire wrote:I mean, it's a wonder they've picked up on Mass Effect 2... Oh wait! ME2 on PS3 will have extra content, so score one more exclusive up for the green box!

I understand why they aren't porting Mass Effect 1, because apparently Microsoft was the publisher for that. What I don't get is why they would then import Mass Effect 2. Without the ability to import saves, they'd have to cut out a lot of content effected by your ME1 save, or subject the player to a gigantic questionnaire.

Shadowman wrote:

Blitzfire wrote:I mean, it's a wonder they've picked up on Mass Effect 2... Oh wait! ME2 on PS3 will have extra content, so score one more exclusive up for the green box!

I understand why they aren't porting Mass Effect 1, because apparently Microsoft was the publisher for that. What I don't get is why they would then import Mass Effect 2. Without the ability to import saves, they'd have to cut out a lot of content effected by your ME1 save, or subject the player to a gigantic questionnaire.

They're going with the questionairre; heralded by some interactive comic at the start of the game (apparently).

Shadowman wrote:

Blitzfire wrote:I mean, it's a wonder they've picked up on Mass Effect 2... Oh wait! ME2 on PS3 will have extra content, so score one more exclusive up for the green box!

I understand why they aren't porting Mass Effect 1, because apparently Microsoft was the publisher for that. What I don't get is why they would then import Mass Effect 2. Without the ability to import saves, they'd have to cut out a lot of content effected by your ME1 save, or subject the player to a gigantic questionnaire.

Usually, I try to buy all games for my PS3, but when ME3 comes out, and if its a multiplatform release, I'm getting it for the 360 and just maybe get it for the PS3 later sometime.

Blitzfire wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Blitzfire wrote:I mean, it's a wonder they've picked up on Mass Effect 2... Oh wait! ME2 on PS3 will have extra content, so score one more exclusive up for the green box!

I understand why they aren't porting Mass Effect 1, because apparently Microsoft was the publisher for that. What I don't get is why they would then import Mass Effect 2. Without the ability to import saves, they'd have to cut out a lot of content effected by your ME1 save, or subject the player to a gigantic questionnaire.

They're going with the questionairre; heralded by some interactive comic at the start of the game (apparently).

Wow, talk about lazy. The demo (PC version at least, I dunno about 360) actually featured a fairly lengthy cutscene describing the events of the first game, narrated by the Illusive Man. But an interactive comic? They couldn't have it done through regular conversation and character animation?

Shadowman wrote:

Blitzfire wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Blitzfire wrote:I mean, it's a wonder they've picked up on Mass Effect 2... Oh wait! ME2 on PS3 will have extra content, so score one more exclusive up for the green box!

I understand why they aren't porting Mass Effect 1, because apparently Microsoft was the publisher for that. What I don't get is why they would then import Mass Effect 2. Without the ability to import saves, they'd have to cut out a lot of content effected by your ME1 save, or subject the player to a gigantic questionnaire.

They're going with the questionairre; heralded by some interactive comic at the start of the game (apparently).

Wow, talk about lazy. The demo (PC version at least, I dunno about 360) actually featured a fairly lengthy cutscene describing the events of the first game, narrated by the Illusive Man. But an interactive comic? They couldn't have it done through regular conversation and character animation?

The 360 version had that too.

Shacknews confirms that the "bonus content" for Mass Effect 2 on PS3 will be the three major DLC packs, a $24 value, for free. GameStop has the price at $60. Oddly enough, the PC version of ME2 is only $20 and the 360 version is only $30. Meaning you could get the main game and the DLC cheaper on PC or 360 than on PS3.

G1Sizzle wrote:For me, my choice was all about the history I've had with each console.

I burned through 3 of the original Playstation. 2 PSX and one of the small PS1. Each of them died for no apparent reason. Similarly, I went through two PS2 consoles. One just stopped working, and the second stopped saving games. I am not rough on consoles. I keep them clean, safe and take good care of them.

I have never, as yet, had to replace an Xbox. The 360 was an easy choice, in my mind.

So now I have an XBox and Wii.

Say what you want about Nintendo, but let's be real: the PS2 died if a butterfly farted outside. Meanwhile, you could take your GameCube or N64 and throw it out of an airplane onto a soccer field where they would then kick it around for an entire game, after which they would throw it away, and then a grizzly bear would find it, shove it up its ass and then **** it into an erupting volcano, and when you finally dug it out of all the hardened lava, that son of a bitch would STILL WORK.

I've a launch day PS2 and it still works.

Shadowman wrote:Shacknews confirms that the "bonus content" for Mass Effect 2 on PS3 will be the three major DLC packs, a $24 value, for free. GameStop has the price at $60. Oddly enough, the PC version of ME2 is only $20 and the 360 version is only $30. Meaning you could get the main game and the DLC cheaper on PC or 360 than on PS3.

IIRC The only Mass Effect 2 DLC that was avaible at launch Xbox 360 and PC was The Cerberus Network (which came with a code for it in the box), Zareed: The Price of Revenge, Blood Dragon Armor (which you had to buy Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect 2 to get) and various store bonus armor and weapons.

Cyberstrike wrote:IIRC The only Mass Effect 2 DLC that was avaible at launch Xbox 360 and PC was The Cerberus Network (which came with a code for it in the box), Zareed: The Price of Revenge, Blood Dragon Armor (which you had to buy Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect 2 to get) and various store bonus armor and weapons.

You remember wrong. The Normandy Crash Site was the first DLC available, and the Cerberus Network wasn't DLC, it was just the delivery service. Zaeed (There's no R in his name) wasn't available until two days after launch. More DLC was released each month afterwords, up until Lair of the Shadow Broker in September.

I'm not sure how that's relevant, though.

I'd reccomend a PS3. as I have had one for awhile now with no problems, not mentioning the current problems with Black Ops on the Playstation Network. It's true that the Xbox has a better online thing going, but the PS3's network is free despite its flaws.

In addition to that, the PS3 gets you the Tester, a show so bad it's good

kevh wrote:In addition to that, the PS3 gets you the Tester, a show so bad it's good

Ah yes. A bunch of people compete for a dead-end job that also happens to be the worst in the industry. Apparently no one told them their job isn't to play video games all day, it's to play the broken, incomplete wreckage that will one day become a game. It's like being a crash-test dummy; you don't spend your day driving a Lamborghini at top speed everywhere, you drive it into a brick wall, write up a seven-page report, then drive into it again.

Shadowman wrote:

Cyberstrike wrote:IIRC The only Mass Effect 2 DLC that was avaible at launch Xbox 360 and PC was The Cerberus Network (which came with a code for it in the box), Zareed: The Price of Revenge, Blood Dragon Armor (which you had to buy Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect 2 to get) and various store bonus armor and weapons.

You remember wrong. The Normandy Crash Site was the first DLC available, and the Cerberus Network wasn't DLC, it was just the delivery service. Zaeed (There's no R in his name) wasn't available until two days after launch. More DLC was released each month afterwords, up until Lair of the Shadow Broker in September.

I'm not sure how that's relevant, though.

Yeah I forgot about Normandy Crash Site, now as far as I'm concerned The Cerberus Network was the first DLC because it's extra content and I had to download it.

Cyberstrike wrote:Yeah I forgot about Normandy Crash Site, now as far as I'm concerned The Cerberus Network was the first DLC because it's extra content and I had to download it.

It isn't anymore, I got Cerberus Network for free, already installed, when I bought the game off of Steam in October. I had to pay for Overlord, Kasumi, and Shadow Broker, though.