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Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby LOST Cybertronian » Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:02 am

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An ebay seller by the name of a-grant has listed for sale a one of a kind rare Takara Lamborghini Prototype with Certificate of Authenticity. According to the COA it was kit bashed by Takara as a sample for Hasbro for a high end Transformers line that was never made. It has a few familiar looking parts like a Superion head and Optimus Prime legs. The listing can be found here.

Up for sale here is a loose original ONE-OF-A-KIND Hasbro/ Takara Transformers Generation One (Gen One G1) Deluxe PROTOTYPE proto Lamborghini with its' original COA; it reminds me of what would later become the Alternators line. While some of the parts may look familiar like the Superion head or Optimus Prime's legs this was made by a Hasbro/ Takara designer, purchased by another company, & sold to me. This is the opening paragraph from the COA (Certificate Of Authenticity): "This is, for lack of a bettter term, a "kit bashed" 1/24 scale Die Cast Lamborghini. However, it was "kit bashed" by TAKARA as a sample for Hasbro. This was a presentation prototype for a line that Takara proposed for High end ultra collectible Transformers in 1988. The line was never made. It does not transform and is a static model. Please do not email me and tell me that anyone could make this in his basement. I realize that, however this one is a real Prototype made by Takara acquired by us from a former Hasbro designer." This has never been out of my care or really ever seen the light of day since I bought it; it was on a shelf & then in storage for more than a decade. There's is some minor bit of dust on it, but it is otherwise in very near mint shape. He is loose w/ no packaging or instructions; also, please note that there are no guns or missiles included either. That is because they were never ever made. There is a mint COA in protective sleeve though. Is it Autobot (most likely) or Decepticon (perhaps a spy)? You can decide. This has been one of the stars of my collection (having picked it up 14 years ago). I really wanted to keep this totally unique & rare item but alas, my life has taken several turns (currently unemployed) & I unfortunately need to sell some of my stuff; plus, it helps lighten the load for an eventual move. The environment has been smoke free, but I do own pets. I'll be honest, this one won't come cheap as it is most likely one of the ONLY ONES EVER MADE! I have never ever seen another 1 like it!


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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby zodconvoy » Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:39 am

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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby Rated X » Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:56 am

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The only thing that makes it authentic is the fact that a Takara guy built it. Other than that it's just a kitbash that's been sitting in a box for 25 years. I wouldn't consider this a prototype.
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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby T-Macksimus » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:09 pm

>:oP


Ok, we've already established that I'm a skeptic, a cynic and a DB so I'll go ahead and say it: I can recreate this with some Go-Bots, parts from my TF scrap box, a trip to the hobby/toy store and a good printer.
I find it HIGHLY unlikely that a company like Takara, with the creative teams that they have had at their disposal over the years and the resources at their disposal would make THIS to pitch an idea. Their designers can chew up plastic and sh** prototypes each morning before breakfast that outpace stuff that all but the best of the kit-bashers out there can create with a months worth of efforts. Even just screwing around the number one toy company in Japan wouldn't submit something of this caliber to one of the top toy companies in the United states if not the entire world.

I applaud the effort (not really, just being somewhat polite after being an ass and ripping into this thing) but the cynic in me just isn't buying into this.

That's not to say I won't eat a slice of humble pie if I'm totally off-base on this. I'm not so much of a jerk that I won't admit my mistake when I'm proven wrong but I'm going to need more than that COA to make me a believer.
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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby SkyWarpsGhost » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:17 pm

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The fact this guy says it has a certificate of authenticity makes me convulse with laughter. What a load of nonsense.
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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby NicholasPrime » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:33 pm

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The WhizBang auctions were legit. I bought some model sheet animation cels from them years ago. So, while this guy's story checks out, this item is still a piece of junk. Ick.

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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby Dead Metal » Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:08 pm

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That is quite possibly the ugliest and dumbest thing I've seen come from Takara designers.
It blows even for an internal kitbashed concept pitch.
This makes the awful Transtech Optimus Prime pitch based on the Qubeley from Gundam.
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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby tencotoys » Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:28 pm

Ok, I rarely comment on this site, but am a member and do visit it everyday. I have to comment on this. Superions's head glued onto a 1:24 scale die cast Lambo model with Optimus Prime's legs glued in??? Really? A "Prototype"? Come on! This is not how prototypes are made. I have been selling on Ebay for 16+ years and this might be one of the biggest shams I have ever seen. ANYONE can produce a COA with a printer. The fact that Seibertron.com has even linked this auction is quite stunning and that the price is over $500 currently, is even more amazing. This is a complete JOKE and anyone who even considers bidding on it should be ashamed of themselves. Ridiculous....
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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby SkyWarpsGhost » Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:37 pm

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I wish we had a like button, as tencotoys sums it up nicely. I've not seen this reported by anyone else. They probably to took one look at it and called horse poo from the get go.
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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby morphobots » Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:49 pm

I know kit bashing in the '80s was the easiest way to demonstrate a new toy concept in the shortest possible amount of time, but I can't buy into this. It doesn't even have any arms to speak of, useful or not. A COA isn't proof of anything anymore, and I second the question of why we linked to this at all.
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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby Noideaforaname » Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:03 pm

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I could believe this is an early early prototype. Not that it's anything I'd want.


"High end ultra collectible" is pretty interesting. I would ask if there was even a market for those back then, but I assume that since they never made these things there wasn't.
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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby zodconvoy » Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:04 pm

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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby tencotoys » Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:04 pm

If there is any credence to the fact that this came from a former Takara/Hasbro employee, I can see why they are a "former" employee...Again..this is a complete joke and the user listing it should be ashamed of themselves for even putting it up on Ebay. If they had any respect for their account, they should remove the listing (scam). I hate to see people get screwed over...
Reminds me of a scene from the movie Tommy Boy!

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Ted Nelson, Customer: Go on, I'm listening.

Tommy: Here's the way I see it, Ted. Guy puts a fancy guarantee on a box 'cause he wants you to feel all warm and toasty inside.

Ted Nelson, Customer: Yeah, makes a man feel good.

Tommy: 'Course it does. Why shouldn't it? Ya figure you put that little box under your pillow at night, the Guarantee Fairy might come by and leave a quarter, am I right, Ted?

[chuckles until he sees that Ted is not laughing]

Ted Nelson, Customer: [impatiently] What's your point?

Tommy: The point is, how do you know the fairy isn't a crazy glue sniffer? "Building model airplanes" says the little fairy; well, we're not buying it. He sneaks into your house once, that's all it takes. The next thing you know, there's money missing off the dresser, and your daughter's knocked up. I seen it a hundred times.

Ted Nelson, Customer: But why do they put a guarantee on the box?

Tommy: Because they know all they sold ya was a guaranteed piece of ****. That's all it is, isn't it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time. But for now, for your customer's sake, for your daughter's sake, ya might wanna think about buying a quality product from me.
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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby UltraPrimal » Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:08 pm

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Looks like a piece of crap someone threw together. Oh, wait! It comes with a certificate of authenticity?! My God! It must be worth millions! Because, you know, those things don't just grow on trees.
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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:13 pm

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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby Dead Metal » Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:26 pm

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I don't doubt that this is an actual prototype for a pitch.

Can't remember which BotCon it was, but at one Hasbro opened their "sanctuary" and showed us stuff we've never seen before. We saw Toxitron, unproduced Alternators and Titaniums and stuff like these.
And one was literately just an Armada Megatron with extra tank treads and different paint and it was supposed to be for a new super realistic military vehicle based TF line.
So yea, I can believe this thing.
It still sucks though.
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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby That_Guy » Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:40 pm

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tencotoys wrote:If there is any credence to the fact that this came from a former Takara/Hasbro employee, I can see why they are a "former" employee...Again..this is a complete joke and the user listing it should be ashamed of themselves for even putting it up on Ebay. If they had any respect for their account, they should remove the listing (scam). I hate to see people get screwed over...
Reminds me of a scene from the movie Tommy Boy!

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Ted Nelson, Customer: Yeah, makes a man feel good.

Tommy: 'Course it does. Why shouldn't it? Ya figure you put that little box under your pillow at night, the Guarantee Fairy might come by and leave a quarter, am I right, Ted?

[chuckles until he sees that Ted is not laughing]

Ted Nelson, Customer: [impatiently] What's your point?

Tommy: The point is, how do you know the fairy isn't a crazy glue sniffer? "Building model airplanes" says the little fairy; well, we're not buying it. He sneaks into your house once, that's all it takes. The next thing you know, there's money missing off the dresser, and your daughter's knocked up. I seen it a hundred times.

Ted Nelson, Customer: But why do they put a guarantee on the box?

Tommy: Because they know all they sold ya was a guaranteed piece of ****. That's all it is, isn't it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time. But for now, for your customer's sake, for your daughter's sake, ya might wanna think about buying a quality product from me.



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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby zodconvoy » Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:59 pm

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Dead Metal wrote:I don't doubt that this is an actual prototype for a pitch.

Can't remember which BotCon it was, but at one Hasbro opened their "sanctuary" and showed us stuff we've never seen before. We saw Toxitron, unproduced Alternators and Titaniums and stuff like these.
And one was literately just an Armada Megatron with extra tank treads and different paint and it was supposed to be for a new super realistic military vehicle based TF line.
So yea, I can believe this thing.
It still sucks though.


I didn't doubt for a minute that this was real only it's not a prototype, it's a proof of concept. Just like:

MP-10 Optimus wearing wearing a glued together G1 Magnus trailer to show that the (now upcoming) Ultra Magnus can have a transforming trailer that becomes his armor instead of being a white Prime and a shoe box like MP-02.
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And Twintwist jumping out of a dude in a space suit to illustrate the pitched concept that would later become the Pretenders.
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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby Blozor » Sun Mar 23, 2014 3:04 pm

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"Please do not email me and tell me that anyone could make this in his basement. I realize that, however this one is a real Prototype made by Takara acquired by us from a former Hasbro designer."

Please. A real certificate of authenticity wouldn't read like someone's self-righteous Craigslist defense, sorry.
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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sun Mar 23, 2014 3:12 pm

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zodconvoy wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:I don't doubt that this is an actual prototype for a pitch.

Can't remember which BotCon it was, but at one Hasbro opened their "sanctuary" and showed us stuff we've never seen before. We saw Toxitron, unproduced Alternators and Titaniums and stuff like these.
And one was literately just an Armada Megatron with extra tank treads and different paint and it was supposed to be for a new super realistic military vehicle based TF line.
So yea, I can believe this thing.
It still sucks though.


I didn't doubt for a minute that this was real only it's not a prototype, it's a proof of concept. Just like:

MP-10 Optimus wearing wearing a glued together G1 Magnus trailer to show that the (now upcoming) Ultra Magnus can have a transforming trailer that becomes his armor instead of being a white Prime and a shoe box like MP-02.
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And Twintwist jumping out of a dude in a space suit to illustrate the pitched concept that would later become the Pretenders.
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At least with those you can sorta see what they were going for. Anybody remember the G2-Megatron-to-some-sort-of-camera kitbash?

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With this prototype tho, what was it meant to pitch? I'm inclined to believe it's an early idea which lead to Binaltech and Alternators, given the use of a model car down to the 1:24 scale.
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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby tencotoys » Sun Mar 23, 2014 3:13 pm

"Please. A real certificate of authenticity wouldn't read like someone's self-righteous Craigslist defense, sorry."

Absolutely correct Blozor!....
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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby shajaki » Sun Mar 23, 2014 4:12 pm

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Blozor wrote:"Please do not email me and tell me that anyone could make this in his basement. I realize that, however this one is a real Prototype made by Takara acquired by us from a former Hasbro designer."

Please. A real certificate of authenticity wouldn't read like someone's self-righteous Craigslist defense, sorry.

agreed. this is the thing that gets me (aside from it looking like a POS). i collect a lot of things (comics being primary) and have seen many COA's. none are like this. they put their seal of approval on it and thats pretty much it. theres no essays written on the COA saying "ok. we know how this looks, but trust us. seriously. please?"
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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby Muscle Man » Sun Mar 23, 2014 4:35 pm

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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

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Re: Rare One of a Kind Takara Generation One Lamborghini Prototype with COA

Postby RodimalToyota » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:49 pm

Hrm.. I'm pretty sure that Bburago Countach wasn't even sold until 96'.
There's no way they were kit bashing in 1988, parts from a car that hadn't yet been in retail.
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