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Re: Michael Bay Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby MINDVVIPE » Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:58 am

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ShardFenix wrote:it happens no big deal


Yup, couldn't agree more. It's called stock footage and film makers use it all the time to save cash. What would you rather have, brand new footage of cars getting crushed or more CGI Transformers on screen?

Why is this such a big deal but using footage of President Kennedy, President Nixon and the moon landing is not getting discussed?


Uhm... i'm pretty sure that kennedy footage was to enforce the reality of the Transformers story by splicing it with real and fake footage. Not really the same thing being discussed here.

Your right though, it isn't a big deal; I sure as hell don't care. But I can say I haven't really noticed any footage being re-used in the sci fi movies (even movies in general) I'm into. If people are so aware of it being done so much, please name some good movies that also re-use footage from the previous chapter, or even from the same movie.
Am I the only one who sees the principle in having nothing but first-time, unique footage in a new piece of work? especially a movie? I get its a short bit here and there, but it just seems to push the movie further away from a piece of art, and closer to a marketed product.
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Re: Michael Bay Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:59 am

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I don't see the problem, not using recycled footage when it's applicable sounds wasteful to me. It's only a couple of seconds anyway, it's not like the entire sequence was reused.
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Re: Michael Bay Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby User897 » Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:02 am

He used it and he's a cheap **** for it, big deal. The budget for this film did not require it. So what, move along.
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Re: Michael Bay Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby Trikeboy » Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:09 am

MINDVVIPE wrote:
Trikeboy wrote:
ShardFenix wrote:it happens no big deal


Yup, couldn't agree more. It's called stock footage and film makers use it all the time to save cash. What would you rather have, brand new footage of cars getting crushed or more CGI Transformers on screen?

Why is this such a big deal but using footage of President Kennedy, President Nixon and the moon landing is not getting discussed?


Uhm... i'm pretty sure that kennedy footage was to enforce the reality of the Transformers story by splicing it with real and fake footage. Not really the same thing being discussed here.

Your right though, it isn't a big deal; I sure as hell don't care. But I can say I haven't really noticed any footage being re-used in the sci fi movies (even movies in general) I'm into. If people are so aware of it being done so much, please name some good movies that also re-use footage from the previous chapter, or even from the same movie.


Star Wars. When the Jawa's are selling R2 and 3PO they reuse a shot of R2 looking at the camera with R5D4 (the red one) behind him. It is obvious because the reuse is after R5 blows his top on the way to the homestead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbmqnINyLXM

The shot is at 2:09 then reused at 3:26.
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Re: Michael Bay Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby MINDVVIPE » Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:14 am

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Star Wars. When the Jawa's are selling R2 and 3PO they reuse a shot of R2 looking at the camera with R5D4 (the red one) behind him. It is obvious because the reuse is after R5 blows his top on the way to the homestead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbmqnINyLXM

The shot is at 2:09 then reused at 3:26.


Thats close, but if you really pay attention to the position of the jawas in the background, its technically not the same footage... PERHAPS its a segment of the same camera footage at a later time, but it is different. Wow I feel like a nerd. :lol:
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Re: Michael Bay Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby Trikeboy » Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:22 am

There is also the footage from Superman of him pushing the boulders to stop the flood from the end of the movie. The footage, before you see Superman was used in a TV show, I think it was the pilot episode of Knight Rider but I can't remember exactly.
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Re: Michael Bay Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby ThatWasMyPigeon » Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:26 am

lol he filmed that in theaters........LAWSUIT!!1!
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Re: Michael Bay Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby Tekka » Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:31 am

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I'm always fascinated by people who pick up on this stuff, it's pretty impressive to have the patience to go through all that material and look for identical shots.
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Re: Michael Bay Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby zodconvoy » Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:32 am

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And? Every movie has stock footage. At least he uses his own.

It's a nonissue.
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Re: Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby KingEmperor » Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:27 am

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Re: Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby Screamfleet » Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:44 am

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You know, this doesn't bother me, except I just thought of something.
Didn't Michael Bay say he shot the whole thing in 3D? Isn't that all part of the process? The Island certainly wasn't filmed in 3D. I suppose that scene is so digitally changed it doesn't matter. Maybe it was all digital to begin with.
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Re: Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby RhA » Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:27 am

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Re: Michael Bay Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby craggy » Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:14 am

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ShardFenix wrote:well they used the sound of darthvaders tie fighter from 'A new Hope' in the GI Joe animated movie when serpentor is using his glider in the arctic battle

it happens no big deal


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another one the laser blasts is C3P0 getting shot in Cloud City from Empire Strikes Back, they use that a few times in the G1 cartoon. I think Dark Awakening is the most obvious example.
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Re: Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby Trikeboy » Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:38 am

Let's not forget the most used one, the Wilhem scream. How many movies does that appear in? Too many to count these days.
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Re: Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby dragons » Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:41 am

thanks for sharing person who made video i say is this who cares he should have done this roft was released in first movie they show 4 autobots crashing to earth when decepticons in second film are about to enter big fight of the second film they showed same clip from the first film 4 autobots flying down to earth from space.

as someone stated on here everyone does it this only gives criritcs something to complain about thats all
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Re: Michael Bay Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

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Re: Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

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Re: Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby Powermaster Jazz » Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:40 am

At least he reuses footage from his own movies. Jeez, you guys will find anything to bash this guy! Can't even admit the movie was good.
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Re: Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby GetRightRobot » Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:25 am

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I actually think it's kinda neat they reused footage. But it does make wonder, could those few seconds have been better spent in this very long movie?

Props to the people who notice things like this. I basically glaze over like an idiot at the movies, especially when it's giant robot action! I'm such a sucker for digital and S.E. destruction!
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Re: Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby Pontimax 01 » Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:31 am

Screamfleet wrote:You know, this doesn't bother me, except I just thought of something.
Didn't Michael Bay say he shot the whole thing in 3D? Isn't that all part of the process? The Island certainly wasn't filmed in 3D. I suppose that scene is so digitally changed it doesn't matter. Maybe it was all digital to begin with.



That's a good point. It'd be worth seeing the movie again to see if there is a discernible difference in the 3D effect.
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Re: Michael Bay Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby ConBotFormer » Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:18 am

ninjascythe79 wrote:Wow somebody watches too many movies


No, I've only seen The Island once back in 2005 and when I saw DOTM I knew this footage was from the island. Some of us are observant and only need to see a movie once to see footage in other films.
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Re: Michael Bay Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby ConBotFormer » Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:26 am

Trikeboy wrote:
ShardFenix wrote:it happens no big deal


Yup, couldn't agree more. It's called stock footage and film makers use it all the time to save cash. What would you rather have, brand new footage of cars getting crushed or more CGI Transformers on screen?

Why is this such a big deal but using footage of President Kennedy, President Nixon and the moon landing is not getting discussed?


HA! Kennedy looked like a corpse sitting in a chair.
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Re: Michael Bay Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby SlyTF1 » Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:05 am

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ShardFenix wrote:well they used the sound of darthvaders tie fighter from 'A new Hope' in the GI Joe animated movie when serpentor is using his glider in the arctic battle

it happens no big deal


Also they sometimes use the lightsaber sounds in the G1 cartoon, for example when Soundwave makes the Energon cubes come out of his chest.



They did it in the 4th episode of Animated too, when Prowl was trying to outsmart the laser sensors that Megatron took control of.
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Re: Michael Bay Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby T-Macksimus » Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:14 am

zodconvoy wrote:And? Every movie has stock footage. At least he uses his own.

It's a nonissue.


EXACTLY! The only thing that this proves is that someone has entirely too much **** free time on their hands and doesn't know how to actually enjoy a film for entertainments sake like it's intended.
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Re: Michael Bay Recycled Footage From "The Island" in Dark Of The Moon

Postby starfish » Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:44 am

SlyTF1 wrote:
Spleenzorio wrote:
ShardFenix wrote:well they used the sound of darthvaders tie fighter from 'A new Hope' in the GI Joe animated movie when serpentor is using his glider in the arctic battle

it happens no big deal


Also they sometimes use the lightsaber sounds in the G1 cartoon, for example when Soundwave makes the Energon cubes come out of his chest.



They did it in the 4th episode of Animated too, when Prowl was trying to outsmart the laser sensors that Megatron took control of.


Also in the original animated TF movie, when Soundwave plugs himself into the Decepticon computer (the 'More than you imagine, Optimus Prime' scene), the sound effect used is the TARDIS door opening effect from 'Doctor Who'.
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