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Seibertron wrote:So what did everyone think of this episode?

My thoughs can be found here.

Seibertron wrote:I thought it was a great episode, but I was a little bothered by what Bulkhead did. I know it's war and all, but I think that was new territory for an Autobot.

How so?

Seibertron wrote:Here's hoping the clones become Skywarp, Thundercracker and any other seekers they want to throw at us..

But those guys already exist in this continuity as separate characters. And the clones were all killed.

Seibertron wrote:This version of Starscream is pretty much the most awesome, devious, traitorous, and evil version of Starscream that there ever was.

He is a deliciously wonderful character. And Steve Blum's acting provides the icing on the cake.

Va'al wrote:I thought all the clones were dead by the end of the episode.

They were, yes.

Wait, why are we talking in spoiler tags if the episode's already aired?

Va'al wrote:EDIT: The spoilers are because people like me (non HUB viewers) may not have yet had a chance to see it. At least that's why I'm using them!

YouTube upload on page 1.

Seibertron wrote:He angrily and brutally beat one of the Starscream clones to death and then dragged his limp body out of the hallway off screen ala Pulp Fiction style. Perhaps rightfully so, but it's one of those things you just don't see Autobots do. Sure they shoot Decepticons, but it's never done in the style that it was done in this episode.

Spider-Man and his Uncle Ben Parker would be disappointed.

Yeah, I too didn't like that. But, ever since the live action movies, Autobots unfortunately now have permission to be pushed over the edge to become ruthless and murderous nowadays.

Like you, I myself also prefer the Autobots to stay righteous and differentiated from their enemies' actions by not crossing the line between good and evil. But, sadly the Bay films have now changed all that.

Seibertron wrote:That's assuming that continuity is followed strictly or that some other continuity plot hole isn't exploited in order for Hasbro to be able to have easy repaint opportunities. Transformers has a very poor track record of adhering to a very strict continuity.

Well, the show's creators did say that they want to focus more on Starscream as a unique individual without having to bring in others like him (i.e. - Skywarp and Thundercracker).

I can't quite recall from memory where exactly they said this, but I'm sure it was either at a Con panel or in an online Q&A. If I can find it eventually (maybe tomorrow, since I'm working late this evening), I'll let you know.

Seibertron wrote:And to someone like me, Hasbro can say all they want about WFC and FOC being the beginning of the Prime continuity before Earth, but as far as I'm concerned as a fan that's G1 and not Prime. I'm sure there are many other fans that find that easier to accept than to accept that WFC/FOC are the same continuity as TFP.

By any chance, have you read the novels yet? They provide some very strong support to the notion that the two are connected, as they're the fictional medium that is the most derived from the Binder.

Plus, FOC will have more elements from Prime put into it to help further connect the two. Like, the Nemesis itself will look exactly like the one seen in this show, rather than the one from G1.