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Shadowman wrote:

SentinelA confirmed as troll.

A really really really REALLY Bad troll, too.

So um, on topic. About the suit, Notice that one hand is bare, while the other isn't. Why would you do that intentionally?

BeastProwl wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

SentinelA confirmed as troll.

A really really really REALLY Bad troll, too.

So um, on topic. About the suit, Notice that one hand is bare, while the other isn't. Why would you do that intentionally?

It's probably going to be CGI'd over.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Biggest of all time? No. Not even close.

Battlefield Earth

Yep, that was a pretty bad movie. Still not as bad as most Uwe Boll movies - the worst I've seen was House of the dead...

Waterworld
Lost in Space

Funny, but I find those two pretty good popcorn-movies, and they are worth more in my eyes than 90% of anything that was made in the last three-four years.

Shadowman wrote:

BeastProwl wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

SentinelA confirmed as troll.

A really really really REALLY Bad troll, too.

So um, on topic. About the suit, Notice that one hand is bare, while the other isn't. Why would you do that intentionally?

It's probably going to be CGI'd over.

That was what I was thinking, but you still have to wonder, why go with such a skinny, stealthy look? Why no add a little bit of bulk? It's not that I dont like it, I just think it would look better bulked up a little bit.

Probably because skinny is easier to move around in, any actor who's had to wear a suit of armor for a movie can tell you that.

Shadowman wrote:Probably because skinny is easier to move around in, any actor who's had to wear a suit of armor for a movie can tell you that.

They should have made him an action figure then

There. Topics are merged. Let this be a lesson to name your threads correctly or you end up annoying the Mods who have to come along and clean up after you. We have enough spambots making messes, we don't need sentients doing the same either.

And quit labeling people trolls. Some of you are just as bad or even worse.

Burn wrote:And quit labeling people trolls. Some of you are just as bad or even worse.

Someone starts criticizing Obama in a thread about a redesign for Robocop, as a way of saying the new movie will be bad. What could that be other than trolling?

Shadowman wrote:

Burn wrote:And quit labeling people trolls. Some of you are just as bad or even worse.

Someone starts criticizing Obama in a thread about a redesign for Robocop, as a way of saying the new movie will be bad. What could that be other than trolling?

Regardless of whether they did or didn't (yes i'm well aware what was posted) it still does NOT give YOU the right to go around giving someone what is essentially a derogatory label, even if said party did turn around and admit to being such.

For all intents and purposes SentinelA SHOULD be given a warning, as per the rules. But if we dished out warnings every time someone danced on the wrong side of the line most of us would probably be banned.

For now, this thread is back on topic. If people have a problem with my Moderating then feel free to pm me and discuss it with me.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Duke of Luns wrote:Technically you're right, but come on, ED-209 was a tool used by a villian, and was Robocop's doppleganger of sorts. Plus it was an effects heavy creation that really messed up Robocop in one scene. So if not a villian, perhaps antagonist. Here's hoping whatever new antagonist Robocop faces is as imaginitive and memorable as ED-209.

I know for a fact ED-209 is going to be in this.

Yeah, I've seen shots of it and it also looks like crap compared to the original. Not intimidating at all. It better have some kick ass weaponry.

You mean the one on that promo OCP webpage? I read on another site that it's just a very early concept design that has since been changed to a much better looking one. Haven't seen any of those new designs, though.

I not crazy about the new robocop suit (as the pics show it) myself. I have my oddball idea about what new Robocop should like? I actually think Robocop should should be either basically like the 80's version (just say the creators were Robotech junkies) or should actually have Robocop look like a normal human being. The human-looking Robocop suit would be camoflague for him among the crowd. All the weapons would be hidden (like the gun in the leg) until needed. Heck any future cyborg might be likely to have polymer- based armor instead of metal anyway, so might as well give Robocop some fake skin to go over the armor, add some clothing, and voila an android disguised as a man.

I don't think the ED-209 mock ups look too bad. Yeah it kinda uses the standard "Bayformer robot" design and reminds me of Metal Gear Rex, but it still haas the chicken leg feet.

What would be fantastic is if they had at least one scene for the new ED-209 that used Go-motion animation, like the original. It does look a little herky jerky but I love it so much more than CGI because it takes a lot of skill to pull it off, and plus they're manipulating something that's actually physically "real".

Duke of Luns wrote:I don't think the ED-209 mock ups look too bad. Yeah it kinda uses the standard "Bayformer robot" design and reminds me of Metal Gear Rex, but it still haas the chicken leg feet.

What would be fantastic is if they had at least one scene for the new ED-209 that used Go-motion animation, like the original. It does look a little herky jerky but I love it so much more than CGI because it takes a lot of skill to pull it off, and plus they're manipulating something that's actually physically "real".

The irony of stop-motion is that it's a physical object that somehow ends up looking less real than CGI. Look at the original Terminator. The animatronics look really great, but when it showed a full-body shot of the terminator sans-skin, it looked hilariously out of place.

Shadowman wrote:

Duke of Luns wrote:I don't think the ED-209 mock ups look too bad. Yeah it kinda uses the standard "Bayformer robot" design and reminds me of Metal Gear Rex, but it still haas the chicken leg feet.

What would be fantastic is if they had at least one scene for the new ED-209 that used Go-motion animation, like the original. It does look a little herky jerky but I love it so much more than CGI because it takes a lot of skill to pull it off, and plus they're manipulating something that's actually physically "real".

The irony of stop-motion is that it's a physical object that somehow ends up looking less real than CGI. Look at the original Terminator. The animatronics look really great, but when it showed a full-body shot of the terminator sans-skin, it looked hilariously out of place.

To each their own. Modern CG does blend into films far better than stop-motion ever did I will admit but stop motion has a charm of it's own I can't help but love.

Duke of Luns wrote:stop motion has a charm of it's own I can't help but love.

Robot Jox

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Duke of Luns wrote:stop motion has a charm of it's own I can't help but love.

Robot Jox

I hadn't seen Robot Jox in years, and since it was on youtube, I decided to give it a watch before replying.

Overall, not a great film, but it does have a B-movie charm to it. Not a whole lot of stop-motion was used overall, but practical effects were abound, and I for one think they've held up pretty well. And quick aside, I do wonder if it served as a sort of inspiration for G-Gundam, cause they share a few ideas.

However, like all things, there's good use of effects and bad use of effects. So this:



and this:



(Yes, I'll admit Kong looks goofy) are just as valid in my eyes as this:



Not that there's anything wrong with CGI, I just prefer practical effects mixed with CGI over pure CGI.

And good CGI is a whole lot more expensive than practial effects. Last month Carlo Rambaldi, creator of E.T., passed away. I read about it in the paper, and this quote(also found here: http://www.altfg.com/blog/movie/carlo-rambaldi-et-oscar/ ), was mentioned:

An old-school mechatronics master, Carlo Rambaldi remained unimpressed by digital techniques. “Digital costs around eight times as much as mechatronics [a mix of mechanical and electronic engineering],” Rambaldi was quoted as having once said in the Rome daily La Repubblica. “E.T. cost a million dollars and we created it in three months. If we wanted to do the same thing with computers, it would take at least 200 people a minimum of five months.”

Duke of Luns wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Duke of Luns wrote:stop motion has a charm of it's own I can't help but love.

Robot Jox

I hadn't seen Robot Jox in years, and since it was on youtube, I decided to give it a watch before replying.

I saw it when I was a kid, loved it ever since. Got the DVD. Theme song still kicks ass. I saw some shirts with Alexander's Kovalevski-42 and the phrase "We can live. We can both live." on them. Gonna get 1 soon.

I don't know about this... it looks like Batman using a helmet from TRON... BATMATRON! hopefully it's just a prototype or like mentioned before cgi stuff, only time will tell, either way I'm sure I'll see the movie when it comes out, Robocop is so cool, I remember being a kid and wanting to have robotic parts like him... haha, now that I think about it, it wouldn't be cool...

No.

And he'll be using a bike in the new movie, instead of his trusty ol' Ford Taurus. Or pink pimp mobile, if you remember 3. I think that's an improvement, even if the bike looks like they just repainted Judge Dredd's bike to black. But that suit...ugh.

I really don't understand why such a drastic change in the suit. Robocop should look like Robocop! I'd have had no idea who this is supposed to be if I hadn't been reading threads about it.
You wouldn't remake/reboot say for example a Predator movie and completely change the look of the Yautja Predator species. Slight changes or a homage to the original would be cool, but this just looks generic. Show this suit to anyone who has seen any of the Robocop movies/series and does not follow what's happening on boards etc they wouldn't have a clue who/what this was supposed to be

SkyWarpsGhost wrote:You wouldn't remake/reboot say for example a Predator movie and completely change the look of the Yautja Predator species.

Bad example, because they did. Watch Predators, and wait for one of the New Preds to take their mask off. Their faces are much more insectoid.

SkyWarpsGhost wrote:Slight changes or a homage to the original would be cool, but this just looks generic. Show this suit to anyone who has seen any of the Robocop movies/series and does not follow what's happening on boards etc they wouldn't have a clue who/what this was supposed to be

It's a remake, not a copy.

Shadowman wrote:

SkyWarpsGhost wrote:You wouldn't remake/reboot say for example a Predator movie and completely change the look of the Yautja Predator species.

Bad example, because they did. Watch Predators, and wait for one of the New Preds to take their mask off. Their faces are much more insectoid.

SkyWarpsGhost wrote:Slight changes or a homage to the original would be cool, but this just looks generic. Show this suit to anyone who has seen any of the Robocop movies/series and does not follow what's happening on boards etc they wouldn't have a clue who/what this was supposed to be

It's a remake, not a copy.

As I said you wouldn't completely change it, just update it.

SkyWarpsGhost wrote:As I said you wouldn't completely change it, just update it.

Which they did. They streamlined the armor and darkened the color. Not a whole lot you can do with the original Robocop design, it's pretty nondescript as far as armor goes.