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Re: The biggest cinematic FAIL of all time?

Postby Shadowman » Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:08 pm

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njb902 wrote:Rabble rabble rabble rabble change bad rabble rabble rabble rabble!


Yeah, pretty much.

Duke of Luns wrote:The armor just looks so plain and boring, like some sort of parody superhero.


And the original didn't look totally goofy at all...

Duke of Luns wrote:It doesn't look like a man who's become a machine, it looks almost form fitting, not nearly bulky enough.


Looks about as bulky as Iron Man to me. Aside from which, look at Adam Jensen. If you don't know who that is, then let me explain: he's not wearing armor, those are his actual arms. Cyborg armor really depends on how much of him is still human.

Duke of Luns wrote:However, the "on the set pics" do have some nice detailing if you look close...but the black just makes it all blend together. The helmet also looks a little off(visor's too big?), but not too bad. However, still kinda bland. It really needs color.


The second pic, the one Burn posted, is a...I actually don't know what color that is. Like a very dark...teal, almost? It's hard to say. I do like the visor sort of blending in to the rest of the helmet in the first pic, though.

That said, black armor...I don't want to say black armor is "in" becuase it's always been "in." No one complained about Darth Vader until he took the armor off...

Duke of Luns wrote:Still though, the design of the suit could be overlooked if the end product is good, and there's no way to even contemplate that until a trailer is shown.


Gary Oldman, Samuel L Jackson, Michael Keaton, and Jackie Earl Haley are on the cast list. So there's that.
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Re: The biggest cinematic FAIL of all time?

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:14 pm

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I don't hate it, but I don't like it either. It looks too much like a guy in a suit rather than a guy rebuilt as a machine.
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Re: The biggest cinematic FAIL of all time?

Postby Shadowman » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:20 pm

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Evil_the_Nub wrote:I don't hate it, but I don't like it either. It looks too much like a guy in a suit rather than a guy rebuilt as a machine.


What does a guy rebuilt as a machine really look like?
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Re: The biggest cinematic FAIL of all time?

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:39 pm

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Evil_the_Nub wrote:I don't hate it, but I don't like it either. It looks too much like a guy in a suit rather than a guy rebuilt as a machine.


What does a guy rebuilt as a machine really look like?

The original is a good example. The joints and detailing look like functioning parts rather than simple armor plates.
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Re: The biggest cinematic FAIL of all time?

Postby Duke of Luns » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:39 pm

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Duke of Luns wrote:The armor just looks so plain and boring, like some sort of parody superhero.


And the original didn't look totally goofy at all...

Duke of Luns wrote:It doesn't look like a man who's become a machine, it looks almost form fitting, not nearly bulky enough.


Looks about as bulky as Iron Man to me. Aside from which, look at Adam Jensen. If you don't know who that is, then let me explain: he's not wearing armor, those are his actual arms. Cyborg armor really depends on how much of him is still human.

Duke of Luns wrote:However, the "on the set pics" do have some nice detailing if you look close...but the black just makes it all blend together. The helmet also looks a little off(visor's too big?), but not too bad. However, still kinda bland. It really needs color.


The second pic, the one Burn posted, is a...I actually don't know what color that is. Like a very dark...teal, almost? It's hard to say. I do like the visor sort of blending in to the rest of the helmet in the first pic, though.

That said, black armor...I don't want to say black armor is "in" becuase it's always been "in." No one complained about Darth Vader until he took the armor off...

Duke of Luns wrote:Still though, the design of the suit could be overlooked if the end product is good, and there's no way to even contemplate that until a trailer is shown.


Gary Oldman, Samuel L Jackson, Michael Keaton, and Jackie Earl Haley are on the cast list. So there's that.


I really don't think the original Robocop looked goofy, however that could be nostalgia talking, and I honestly think it looks better.

The thing that really bugs me is the color though. I just find it boring. The reason it worked for Vader is because he was original and villianous. Robocop is supposed to be an awesome cop, so having that metalic sheen screams hero.

Also, for the record, not a fan of the Spider-man 3 symbiote suit. It looked like a spray painted Spidey-suit and I think it's terrible. A little white would have gone a long way...

Also, back on topic, does anyone know what the(for lack of a better term) "villian" of the new film is going to be? It doesn't have to be ED-209 but I really hope it's not just some gang of humans. Robocop needs to battle a robot.
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Re: The biggest cinematic FAIL of all time?

Postby Shadowman » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:57 pm

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Duke of Luns wrote:The thing that really bugs me is the color though. I just find it boring. The reason it worked for Vader is because he was original and villianous.


Vader was far from original. There were no less than two Black Knights just like him in Arthurian Legend.

Duke of Luns wrote:Robocop is supposed to be an awesome cop, so having that metalic sheen screams hero.


I don't recall a superhero having a metallic sheen, outside of the Silver Surfer but then that's the core of his design. Batman has a preference for dark grey and black in the comics, and all-black in the movies. He's far from the only heroic character to wear all-black (Neo, Luke Skywalker, the Punisher, MIB, etc.) though he is the most successful to pull it off.

Duke of Luns wrote:Also, for the record, not a fan of the Spider-man 3 symbiote suit. It looked like a spray painted Spidey-suit and I think it's terrible. A little white would have gone a long way...


I have no idea what that has to do with any of this. You know he wore that suit for a while in not just the comics, but in pretty much every adaptation, right? The Symbiote suit in the comics lacked any detail, other than his eyes and Spider-Symbol.

Duke of Luns wrote:Also, back on topic, does anyone know what the(for lack of a better term) "villian" of the new film is going to be?


From the Wikipedia Article, Michael Keaton appears to be filling Ronny Cox's role from the original.

Duke of Luns wrote:It doesn't have to be ED-209 but I really hope it's not just some gang of humans. Robocop needs to battle a robot.


He'll probably fight the ED-209 at some point, but, uh...the ED-209 was never a villain, it was just a machine doing what it was told by the actual villain, a corrupt CEO. Robocop never really battled another robot until the second movie.
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Re: The biggest cinematic FAIL of all time?

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:21 pm

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Shadowman wrote:I don't recall a superhero having a metallic sheen, outside of the Silver Surfer


Colossus from X-Men? Crusher Creel if he absorbs metal?

And I will admit I will go see this movie in theaters. A totally shitty early stage of the RoboCop suit isn't necessarily a deterrent, I just hope that's not the final product. It does need to be more metallic at least. But it might end up looking like Master Chief...

Also, I wonder if there will be a Clarence Boddicker uttering that awesome line from the original.
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Re: The biggest cinematic FAIL of all time?

Postby Shadowman » Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:30 pm

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Shadowman wrote:I don't recall a superhero having a metallic sheen, outside of the Silver Surfer


Colossus from X-Men? Crusher Creel if he absorbs metal?


Ah, yeah, forgot Colossus. Still, though, metallic sheen isn't common amongst superheroes.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Also, I wonder if there will be a Clarence Boddicker uttering that awesome line from the original.


From the cast list, the character itself isn't coming back. But I do hope they include the line.
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Re: The biggest cinematic FAIL of all time?

Postby SentinelA » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:16 am

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What the hell are they doing wrong? All people have done so far is complain about the design of the armor, and that's not even that bad. Because it's not an exact copy of the original design, it's the worst movie ever?

They are remaking it in the first place. Is there noone in LA with any imagination? Has all the good stuff been done? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: The biggest cinematic FAIL of all time?

Postby Shadowman » Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:12 am

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SentinelA wrote:A special message to the douchbags making this movie: "You are making a mistake!"


What the hell are they doing wrong? All people have done so far is complain about the design of the armor, and that's not even that bad. Because it's not an exact copy of the original design, it's the worst movie ever?

They are remaking it in the first place. Is there noone in LA with any imagination? Has all the good stuff been done? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? :BANG_HEAD:


Remakes are not inherently bad. Ocean's 11, the Italian Job, Captain America, Hulk, Batman, Battlestar Galactica, Judge Dredd (Turns out the new movie is good!) etc. etc. Just because something is being remade, doesn't mean it's going to be awful, nor does it mean it's unimaginative. Just a fresh take on an old project.
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Re: The biggest cinematic FAIL of all time?

Postby Duke of Luns » Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:35 am

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Duke of Luns wrote:Also, for the record, not a fan of the Spider-man 3 symbiote suit. It looked like a spray painted Spidey-suit and I think it's terrible. A little white would have gone a long way...


I have no idea what that has to do with any of this. You know he wore that suit for a while in not just the comics, but in pretty much every adaptation, right? The Symbiote suit in the comics lacked any detail, other than his eyes and Spider-Symbol.


The point I was trying to make(and I probably should have phrased it a tad better) is that the Spider-Man 3 suit was black with no contrasting color. The giant white symbol the suit bears in the comics is very striking, and helps the blackness stand out. And maybe that was a poor comparison cause the symbiote spider symbol is very...symbolic, and Spidey 3's suit lacked that.

Basically, I'm hoping the actual suit will have some sort of contrasting color to bring out the inherent detail, because otherwise it does look boring.

And the metallic color doesn't necessarily have to be silver, but it really helps convey the "robo" part of Robocop.

He'll probably fight the ED-209 at some point, but, uh...the ED-209 was never a villain, it was just a machine doing what it was told by the actual villain, a corrupt CEO. Robocop never really battled another robot until the second movie


Technically you're right, but come on, ED-209 was a tool used by a villian, and was Robocop's doppleganger of sorts. Plus it was an effects heavy creation that really messed up Robocop in one scene. So if not a villian, perhaps antagonist. Here's hoping whatever new antagonist Robocop faces is as imaginitive and memorable as ED-209.
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Re: The biggest cinematic FAIL of all time?

Postby njb902 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:22 am

I'm interested to see if his gun is still holstered in his right leg. Oh and if they bring back the auto-9 or update it.
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Re: Robocop remake suit revealed.

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Why cant people accept change and stop typing in all caps?
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Re: The biggest cinematic FAIL of all time?

Postby Shadowman » Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:50 am

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Duke of Luns wrote:Technically you're right, but come on, ED-209 was a tool used by a villian, and was Robocop's doppleganger of sorts. Plus it was an effects heavy creation that really messed up Robocop in one scene. So if not a villian, perhaps antagonist. Here's hoping whatever new antagonist Robocop faces is as imaginitive and memorable as ED-209.


I know for a fact ED-209 is going to be in this.
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Re: The biggest cinematic FAIL of all time?

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:35 pm

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Duke of Luns wrote:Technically you're right, but come on, ED-209 was a tool used by a villian, and was Robocop's doppleganger of sorts. Plus it was an effects heavy creation that really messed up Robocop in one scene. So if not a villian, perhaps antagonist. Here's hoping whatever new antagonist Robocop faces is as imaginitive and memorable as ED-209.


I know for a fact ED-209 is going to be in this.


Yeah, I've seen shots of it and it also looks like crap compared to the original. Not intimidating at all. It better have some kick ass weaponry.
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Re: Robocop remake suit revealed.

Postby SentinelA » Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:14 pm

I would mention how Obama brought us change and how that when but lets not get political.
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Re: The biggest cinematic FAIL of all time?

Postby SentinelA » Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:19 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:I give you the new RoboCop:

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Looks like they tried to copy the new emo douche version of Batman.

Source: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=94813


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BTW: Did anyone even get the reference?
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Re: Robocop remake suit revealed.

Postby Shadowman » Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:16 pm

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SentinelA wrote:I would mention how Obama brought us change and how that when but lets not get political.


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Re: Robocop remake suit revealed.

Postby SentinelA » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:40 am

Shadowman wrote:
SentinelA wrote:I would mention how Obama brought us change and how that when but lets not get political.


:BANG_HEAD:

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LOL This is news? :michaelbay:
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Re: The biggest cinematic FAIL of all time?

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:10 am

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Biggest of all time? No. Not even close.

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That's off the top of my head. This isn't even close to those turkeys.
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Re: Robocop remake suit revealed.

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Shadowman wrote: :BANG_HEAD:

SentinelA confirmed as troll.

A really really really REALLY Bad troll, too.

So um, on topic. About the suit, Notice that one hand is bare, while the other isn't. Why would you do that intentionally?
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Re: Robocop remake suit revealed.

Postby Shadowman » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:44 am

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Shadowman wrote: :BANG_HEAD:

SentinelA confirmed as troll.

A really really really REALLY Bad troll, too.

So um, on topic. About the suit, Notice that one hand is bare, while the other isn't. Why would you do that intentionally?


It's probably going to be CGI'd over.
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Re: The biggest cinematic FAIL of all time?

Postby Chaoslock » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:46 am

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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Biggest of all time? No. Not even close.

Battlefield Earth


Yep, that was a pretty bad movie. Still not as bad as most Uwe Boll movies - the worst I've seen was House of the dead...

Waterworld
Lost in Space


Funny, but I find those two pretty good popcorn-movies, and they are worth more in my eyes than 90% of anything that was made in the last three-four years.
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Re: Robocop remake suit revealed.

Postby BeastProwl » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:47 pm

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BeastProwl wrote:
Shadowman wrote: :BANG_HEAD:

SentinelA confirmed as troll.

A really really really REALLY Bad troll, too.

So um, on topic. About the suit, Notice that one hand is bare, while the other isn't. Why would you do that intentionally?


It's probably going to be CGI'd over.

That was what I was thinking, but you still have to wonder, why go with such a skinny, stealthy look? Why no add a little bit of bulk? It's not that I dont like it, I just think it would look better bulked up a little bit.
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Re: Robocop remake suit revealed.

Postby Shadowman » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:56 pm

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Probably because skinny is easier to move around in, any actor who's had to wear a suit of armor for a movie can tell you that.
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