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LOL...there is plot this time?

What a revelation!

shockblast2 wrote:LOL...there is plot this time?

What a revelation!

Almost like your post.

njb902 wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:LOL...there is plot this time?

What a revelation!

Almost like your post.

That was so funny I forgot to laugh! Either that or the comeback made no sense.....


Heres a joke for ya!

Here's Bay on the first day of the set. The script is taped to a Camaro in the background.



Get it?

Killing optimus Prime AGAIN in the movies would be a huge mistake. it would then explain the presence of ultra magnus...

and Unicron?

hello?? maybe he gave us hints based upon the 86 movie?

Prime dies? he did in 86
Unicron? was there in 86
bounty Hunter? the sweeps of 86
the dinobots? they were there in 86 too

as long as they dont bring **** Rodimus Prime in!

ScoutBumblebee wrote:

5150 Cruiser wrote:I posted this about an hour ago. But good to have all sources of info.

You got a news credit on it.

Thank you. I appreciate that.


As far as the plot goes, i'm curious to where everyone is getting that unicron is going to be in AOE?

Rodimus2006 wrote:While Unicron may be in AOE it dosent mean he will be used or seen much, & could also be just a cameo type of glimpse. I am thinking of like Thantos in the Avengers Ending credits type of deal with Unicron showing headed towards Earth.

But I am hoping that this Unicron is done like Prime's Unicron where Unicron is infact the Earth itself. But I assume this Unicron will be CGI & more than likely something Huge & Evil Looking.

I just hope this will not be a FF Repeat where they messed up Galaticus making him a Nano Death Cloud. While I know that things from Comics, Series are translated diffrently to Live Action I just hope Unicron isnt done in a comical goofy way.

OP Dying I am ok with this, in movie 5 they can bring in Rodimus, Ultramagnus or Hot Shot maybe even Sky Fire to replace OP. Then they would battle Unicron teaming up with the Decepticons.

Still what about Megatron/Galvatron nothing is known what about NEST. This info is cool such as Lockdown but where is the juicy info we need.

There is an issue with Skyfire......Skyfire is Jetfire......yeah, he kind of died in ROTF dude......plus, although I liked Prime, I don't think I would want to see that in a Live Action Movie. It would just seem a little too silly I guess......either way, I do hope that if Unicron is in this, they slowly build up to him and then BOOM!!

5150 Cruiser wrote:As far as the plot goes, i'm curious to where everyone is getting that unicron is going to be in AOE?

Probably from Rodimus2006's rambling.

Sabrblade wrote:

5150 Cruiser wrote:As far as the plot goes, i'm curious to where everyone is getting that unicron is going to be in AOE?

Probably from Rodimus2006's rambling.

And that it was mentioned as a rumored possibility in the latter part of the article above.

Personally, I hope it is nothing more than a wild rumor based off of someones drunken or drug induced psychotic ramblings. I'd rather sit through 24 hours of RotF played back to back than put up with such an f'd up, asinine plot point as bringing Unicron into the movie franchise. Gouging my eyes out with a spork would be preferable. Honestly, there aren't enough expletives available to convey just how strongly I hate the idea, not that I'm a fan of them making a 4th installment of the movies to begin with.

I wasnt rambling Saber, I was just going by what other sites have been hollering about Unicron. I dont know if Unicron is even in AOE I was just offering a hypothetical theory on what I hope for Unicron if he is indeed in AOE.

But Saber if Unicron is indeed in AOE it would be handled like that of Thantos in The Avengers post end credits or sort of like Professor X & Magneto in The Wolvering leading up to the new X Men movie.

I was just offering suggestions, I dont know anything on AOE. The vagest of plot & some on the Transformers but other than that nothing.

I am just talking about these Articles not rambling.

With the Dinobots in it and others like Ultra Magnus, I hope Kup turns up sometime, if not in this movie in the future ones.

Says the clearly better public speaker hiding behind his computer to take a pot shot at a Hollywood Director that will never read his comment.

1) I have done public speaking before, and I'd like to think if I had a scheduled appearance to address a large group of businessmen and dignitaries, I would be better prepared than THAT. Maybe he was tired that day - if so, he should have rescheduled until he was better rested and prepared. Instead he went in front of these people UNprepared, and as a result, the worst happened.

2) Everyone LOVES taking pot shots at hollywood - there are 'nostalgia' reviewers who make a LIVING doing it, and it seems to be what the internets (and it's millions of hollow tubes) was made for

3)Yeah, Bay's already proved that he's so rich he doesn't really care what his fans think.

Shockwave7 wrote:

1) I have done public speaking before, and I'd like to think if I had a scheduled appearance to address a large group of businessmen and dignitaries, I would be better prepared than THAT. Maybe he was tired that day - if so, he should have rescheduled until he was better rested and prepared. Instead he went in front of these people UNprepared, and as a result, the worst happened.

Right... Lets just reschedule an entire event because Bay is having a bad day. Lets tell everyone to just...Come back tomorrow. Or next week. Cause you know, its just that easy.

Shockwave7 wrote: 2) Everyone LOVES taking pot shots at hollywood - there are 'nostalgia' reviewers who make a LIVING doing it, and it seems to be what the internets (and it's millions of hollow tubes) was made for

And half the time they look just as stupid as the ones they think there making fun of.

Shockwave7 wrote:3)Yeah, Bay's already proved that he's so rich he doesn't really care what his fans think.

And most fans have proven that there selfish, self centered, don't care about what anyone else wants in a movie. Me, me me!! Forget the Billions of dollars the movies have made. Forget the new generation of fans they have brought in. Who cares about the funding for toys lines and Tv shows. That doesn't mean crap. Nope, bay doesn't care at all.

T-Macksimus wrote:I'd rather sit through 24 hours of RotF played back to back than put up with such an f'd up, asinine plot point as bringing Unicron into the movie franchise. Gouging my eyes out with a spork would be preferable. Honestly, there aren't enough expletives available to convey just how strongly I hate the idea, not that I'm a fan of them making a 4th installment of the movies to begin with.

Well, Bay said he'd never put the Dinobots in a movie, and here we are. I kinda agree with you on Unicron, I don't think he should be in the movies, unless he's done right. Which means his arrival can't be rushed, a la Galactus in FF2. And he has to be an actual living thing with a tangible body, also unlike Galactus in FF2. I do believe Unicron will be introduced sometime during the trilogy, possibly making him the main villain in the 3rd film. He's just too good and prominent a character not to be used. If that happens, I also hope Primus will be involved, even if it's just through Optimus (or Rodimus in another movie ) telling of the Transformers backstory.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I do believe Unicron will be introduced sometime during the trilogy, possibly making him the main villain in the 3rd film. He's just too good and prominent a character not to be used.

Well, IDW has gone a full nine years with not using him in their G1 comics, meaning that Unicron isn't necessarily a requirement to be used in everything.

To be honest, I don't want him to be in these movies since, with as unfair as these films have already been in the portrayal of the TFs in proportion to their more seemingly favoritism-based portrayals of the humans (as a means to appeal to the general masses over just the fans), I really don't feel that these films could do him any proper justice.

At best, they'd just make him be a giant, mindless monster, moreso than most of the Decepticons have all been, what with these films being human-focused above all else. So I say better to leave him out than to do him unjustly. Otherwise, we'd probably get Mark Wahlberg as the one who either defeats him or holds the key to defeating him. As if being beaten by germs wasn't enough.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I do believe Unicron will be introduced sometime during the trilogy, possibly making him the main villain in the 3rd film. He's just too good and prominent a character not to be used.

Well, IDW has gone a full nine years with not using him in their G1 comics, meaning that Unicron isn't necessarily a requirement to be used in everything.

I don't read iDW stuff, other than ReGeneration (which really isn't iDW stuff), so I don't know of the comics stories. However, have they stated they would absolutely not include Unicron before the G1 stories are over? I'm not saying it would be better or worse with Unicron in the stories, I'm just saying he's definitely a cornerstone of Transformers. He should be included eventually.

To be honest, I don't want him to be in these movies since, with as unfair as these films have already been in the portrayal of the TFs in proportion to their more seemingly favoritism-based portrayals of the humans (as a means to appeal to the general masses over just the fans), I really don't feel that these films could do him any proper justice.

At best, they'd just make him be a giant, mindless monster, moreso than most of the Decepticons have all been, what with these films being human-focused above all else. So I say better to leave him out than to do him unjustly. Otherwise, we'd probably get Mark Wahlberg as the one who either defeats him or holds the key to defeating him. As if being beaten by germs wasn't enough.

Agreed 100% on both points. For me it comes down to what Unicron represents (a necessary part of the mythos) which is the reason he should be in the story versus the treatment the Transformers have received so far which is the reason he shouldn't be. But with all the hype and highlight on the fact that AoE is supposed to be a new beginning of sorts, and Bay's inclusion of the Dinobots after he swore on heaven and Earth that he wouldn't do it, I'm willing to give them 1 last chance on doing the characters right, especially from what we've seen and heard of Lockdown so far. I know he's not a Decepticon per se, but it does seem he will be treated much better than the bad guys have been so far, with the exception of Sentinel.

Rodimus Prime wrote: But with all the hype and highlight on the fact that AoE is supposed to be a new beginning of sorts, and Bay's inclusion of the Dinobots after he swore on heaven and Earth that he wouldn't do it, I'm willing to give them 1 last chance on doing the characters right, especially from what we've seen and heard of Lockdown so far. I know he's not a Decepticon per se, but it does seem he will be treated much better than the bad guys have been so far, with the exception of Sentinel.

I don't remember Bay "swearing up and down" that he would never include the dinobots, but rather that at the time he didn't see how they would fit in the movie verse. And if he did in fact swear he would never include them, then to me this says he doesn't have the power that everyone says and thinks he does. I've always said that when all is said and done, Hasbro is going to have the final say on when and where their intellectual property is used. Not the director, not the Producers, Hasbro. And lets say he does have the power. I think after working with the franchise for 7yrs he's bound to have a change in opinion.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I don't read iDW stuff, other than ReGeneration (which really isn't iDW stuff), so I don't know of the comics stories. However, have they stated they would absolutely not include Unicron before the G1 stories are over? I'm not saying it would be better or worse with Unicron in the stories, I'm just saying he's definitely a cornerstone of Transformers. He should be included eventually.

Back when Simon Furman held the reins of the IDW story, he stated outright that the IDW comics would have "No Primus. No Unicron." in them. But since his being replaced by other writers, his word has become only Authorial Intent as later fiction penned by James Roberts an John Barber have gone and finally introduced Primus into the comics, but not Unicron. Though, there was an intentionally vague reference that could sorta possibly kinda allude to Unicron in a way, so to speak ( ), but nothing has come out of it and hasn't really been touched upon since. At this point, the comics continue to avoid needing to use Unicron and are content with doing the these they keep on doing.

On a related note, Animated went its whole run without Unicron or Primus in any of its fiction. Though, the AllSpark Almanac II book did make a vague reference to "two primordial titans", but kept that vague to as to respect the wishes of Derrick J. Wyatt, who has openly declared that both Primus and Unicron don't exist in Animated (which is contradicted by fictions that declare Animated to be part of the multiverse in which both gods exist).

So while Unicron and Primus both technically do exist in these two continuities, neither are really present in either and don't need to be.

Firstly, why Unicron should be afraid of Optimus? He destroyed Cybertron and kill any Cybertronian warrior that was able to find a way to beat him, seems like a good think for Primu's archenemy.

Plus it's rather impossible for such Lucky character like Prime to be hated by Evil God.

However I like that Optimus seems to be owned at least few times in AOE, propably even by human soldiers. He can even bee in stasis due to the wounds he suffers from human guns, witch would be good idea for me.

TurboMMaster wrote:Firstly, why Unicron should be afraid of Optimus?

Who are you talking to?

Being a multiverseal singularity, would it be possible that The Fallen sent Lockdown, under the commands of Unicron?

SlyTF1 wrote:Being a multiverseal singularity, would it be possible that The Fallen sent Lockdown, under the commands of Unicron?

Not with Michael Bay considering The Fallen to be "kind of a (expletive) character."

And the movies don't give two cents about the multiverse.

I really do not care if Unicron is in AOE or not. I just want a good movie, & I think AOE will be an awesome ride. The movie to me looks worlds above DOTM, thank god NO MORE SHIA.

Also Saber you were wondering where I heard about Cyclonus in AOE I got that from Forums, but have since learned he will not be in AOE but possibly be in 5 & 6. I am hoping for Scourge, Thundercracker, & The Sweeps in future Movies. Sucks Thundercracker has not been in the movies neither has Skywarp. Neither has my favorite Trail Breaker.

I love how AOE is doing the humans, Being All Evil, hating the Autobots, What I don't understand why is it always the Autobots always singled out never the Decepticons, The Autobots saved the day but the Autobots are the ones always Hated on & forced into exile.

I love how OP is in AOE this is enough to make me see AOE not rather or not Unicron is in AOE. Hopefully I hope Unicron isn't even in this Trilogy. To me I do not think Unicron would not fit into the Movie Verse, not unless Unicron would be radically different to his Animated Counterparts. But I hope they do not use Unicron at all.

I like these Plots they use, such as Humans building their own Transformers, OP being more Darker, OP Leaving his Prime Directive behind "Never Shoot at Humans", But seen in the Trailer OP was Firing on Humans, Giving up all hope on Humanity.

I am curious to see how OP interacts now that he is more Darker, Moodier, also how he inter-acts with Government Big Wigs.

Cant wait to see Lockdown, also curious to learn more on those Ships we saw in Space. Also I think Galvatron will not remain controlled by Humans for long. HELLO THIS IS GALVATRON.

But the question remains, How does he Get his Free Will to become the Leader again, Through a Artifact, Through Lockdown, Or simply maybe he Breaks free of his own Will.

Cant wait to see AOE to find OUT. Wondering if Galvatron HAS FLIGHT MODE.