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One of my biggest problems with these movie is that they aren't Transformers movies. They're Shia LaBeouf movies with some Transformers as guest stars and supporting cast. The Transformers play second fiddle to the humans in their own movies.

Sabrblade wrote:One of my biggest problems with these movie is that they aren't Transformers movies. They're Shia LaBeouf movies with some Transformers as guest stars and supporting cast. The Transformers play second fiddle to the humans in their own movies.

QFT.

I kept asking myself what was missing in the TF movies that should have made me really LOVE them. And then I realized that there were too many humans, too much unnecessary comedy, and WAY TOO MUCH Shia. The first two movies felt more like, "Shia's Comedy Hour Featuring The Transformers."

That said, I think DOTM did a far better job at balancing the screen time and plot emphasis between Shia and the TF's. IMO, DOTM is the only TF movie of the three that actually FEELS like a TF movie.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:One of my biggest problems with these movie is that they aren't Transformers movies. They're Shia LaBeouf movies with some Transformers as guest stars and supporting cast. The Transformers play second fiddle to the humans in their own movies.

QFT.

I kept asking myself what was missing in the TF movies that should have made me really LOVE them. And then I realized that there were too many humans, too much unnecessary comedy, and WAY TOO MUCH Shia. The first two movies felt more like, "Shia's Comedy Hour Featuring The Transformers."

That said, I think DOTM did a far better job at balancing the screen time and plot emphasis between Shia and the TF's. IMO, DOTM is the only TF movie of the three that actually FEELS like a TF movie.

The problem with DOTM is that 90% of the Decepticons are nameless generics instead of actual characters. Starscream, Soundwave, SHOCKWAVE, Barricade, Igor, the Dreads, all of them are wasted in their performances doing little more than just being "bad guys". Only difference between them and the generics are that they have names.

The only Con in any of the trilogy that was actually a good character with excellent screentime, characterization, execution, and personality all together was Laserbeak. Everyone else was only about as half as good as him or worse.

And DOTM still had too much Shia. Right at the moment we were told that Sam gave back Bumblebee was the moment I knew he'd still be stealing the spotlight in this one.

Sabrblade wrote:The problem with DOT is that 90% of the Decepticons are nameless generics instead of actual characters. Starscream, Soundwave, SHOCKWAVE, Barricade, Igor, the Dreads, all of them are wasted in their performances doing little more than just being "bad guys". Only difference between them and the generics are that they have names.

pretty much the case with all 3 films.

Sabrblade wrote:One of my biggest problems with these movie is that they aren't Transformers movies.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

No, you're wrong. Just because you didn't like them doesn't make them not Transformers films.

Capt.Failure wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:One of my biggest problems with these movie is that they aren't Transformers movies.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

No, you're wrong. Just because you didn't like them doesn't make them not Transformers films.

Funny, you laugh but its obvious that you didnt take the time to read all of his post.

I believe he was speaking more twards the issue that the TF's in the film werent the stars of the film.

He didnt say he didnt like the these films,he was speaking more twards the issue that the TF's in the film werent the stars of the film, and thaqt he didnt like.

You should read things more carfully

T-Macksimus wrote:NOOOO!!! No No No f'ing NO! Cut them off right now! The first 3, while decent enough, had serious flaws by the end of the last film and releasing more will just add to the continuity sh**-storm that the first trilogy became. Stop them now while they are still on top because continuing the series will just turn it all into a farce and complete and utter crap-fest. Next time around they are going to do something lame like bringing Unicron into the mix or some other b.s. idea. They need to focus on the animated series and toy production and leave the live-action alone for another 5 or so years.

While i do agree they should wait before releasing new movies,i disagree on the whole "the movies are a continuity mess" thing.

Starscreamers wrote:Well... it wood be nice. But they have to change a lot of things, the movies were turned into comedies. The Transformers should be sirius, like the new Batman movies or like The Matrix or Terminator movies.There are too many mistakes in the movies, I could go on and on but I won't.
I vote for James Cameron to take over the next three films and I am positive they will be even more epic then the first three.

Sure the movies had moments that were meant to be jokes,but a comedy movie is a exaggeration,every Transformers series had its jokes.
The Transformers movies are serious.

TulioDude wrote:Sure the movies had moments that were meant to be jokes,but a comedy movie is a exaggeration,every Transformers series had its jokes.
The Transformers movies are serious.

The jokes outweighed the serious moments in these movies. They made fools out of themselves with jokes that weren't funny at all.

And their serious moments were the wrong kind of seriousness. They were dark for the sake of being dark. The right kind of seriousness these movies needed was gravitas, and there's little to none of that in these movies.

Sabrblade wrote:

TulioDude wrote:Sure the movies had moments that were meant to be jokes,but a comedy movie is a exaggeration,every Transformers series had its jokes.
The Transformers movies are serious.

The jokes outweighed the serious moments in these movies. They made fools out of themselves with jokes that weren't funny at all.

And their serious moments were the wrong kind of seriousness. They were dark for the sake of being dark. The right kind of seriousness these movies needed was gravitas, and there's little to none of that in these movies.

Sometimes I do wonder if the jokes were bad partially doe to the overacting from the people who played the characters [Leo and that Jerry Wang guy were particularly bad ham actors].

But yeah, I personally found some of the jokes inappropriate for the situation, such as that sarcastic quip Meering made when she interrupted Sentinel and Optimus' conversation--the one that went, "...you can't simply bring weapons of mass destruction in our atmosphere. Kinda have to clear customs first, etc."

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

But yeah, I personally found some of the jokes inappropriate for the situation, such as that sarcastic quip Meering made when she interrupted Sentinel and Optimus' conversation--the one that went, "...you can't simply bring weapons of mass destruction in our atmosphere. Kinda have to clear customs first, etc."

I dont think that was meant to be joke.

Sabrblade wrote:The jokes outweighed the serious moments in these movies. They made fools out of themselves with jokes that weren't funny at all.

And their serious moments were the wrong kind of seriousness. They were dark for the sake of being dark. The right kind of seriousness these movies needed was gravitas, and there's little to none of that in these movies.

I dont know,i wasnt much bothered with the jokes.I was like"A joke.Moving on."I guess its more of a opinion thing than a fact thing.