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Seibertron.com Editorial - The Truly Thrilling Thirtieth of The Transformers

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Postby Gallifreyan Autobot » Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:13 pm

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:APPLAUSE: that was an amazing article ScottyP :APPLAUSE:


and a happy anniversary to one of the best franchises out there IMHO :BOT: :CON: :PREDACON: :MAXIMAL: :G2CON: :G2BOT: :QUINT: :MINI: :RENEGADE: :BLEND: :VEHI:
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Postby Ultra Markus » Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:33 pm

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but i was 9 at the time and i remember like it was yesterday, like getting so excited for the show and even more so when i got a new transformer for my birthday or Christmas ....good times!
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Postby welcometothedarksyde » Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:53 pm

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I actually never got into Transformers when I was around the right age. I got into the toys as a teenager right when ROTF came out. However it really struck a nerve (in a good way) with me and I ended up watching all of G1, all of Beast Wars, all of RID, all of Animated, all of Armada, all of Beast Machines, and when it came out, all of Prime. Here's to another 30!
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Postby 1984forever » Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:13 pm

I was 10 years old, 5th grade just started and every boy in my class was in competition to see who could get the most Transformers! The cartoon was a half hour long commercial with great voice acting. Once you saw the show, you would look for the character at the store. Toy aisles were well stocked with every character before the mania hit right before the Christmas holidays. I did odd jobs everyday that I wasn't playing Transformers with friends to get more Transformers. My Grandmother searched 3 states looking for Optimus Prime and my Dad fought off other parents in a Black Friday style skirmish over some Autobot cars. By the end of the year I had almost every 1984 release except Megatron, who I was able to get in a trade in January 1985. Spring '85 I got figures like the Dinobots, Insecticons and my first Constructicon, Scrapper. I also got Ramjet that spring and I could not wait for season 2 to start so I could see how he acted on the cartoon. Good times.
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Postby steeljaw2.0 » Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:31 pm

Ok so I was 9 it was so hard to watch as it aired on a breakfast tv program transformers had a daily 5 min slot at 8:55 , now school was at 9:00 so it was impossible to watch (us Brits get shafted a lot with transformers) luckily my friend forced his mum to record it (vhs) so after school a few of us would go to his house and get our 5 min fix, often I could not wait so would watch it live when it aired and be 30 mins late for school, the summer holidays were good as we would get full episodes instead of 5 mins but when school started after the holidays it reverted back to 5 min slots !!!!!!
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Postby SideswipeSkywarp » Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:54 pm

8) It's been a long time since then. I had my first 4 Transformers at least a month or two before the cartoon aired. I was on a cubs scouts trip in Wisconsin for a week and toward the end of the trip we visited a small store. Before the trip we were told about getting souvenirs so I was given some money. I was 9 years old almost 10 during the trip. I had some go-bots for almost a year now. When I got to the store kids ran around buying kites and things. I was looking at the Transformers on the wall when you first walk in. I didn't look at any other toys. I first noticed Windcharger a Trans am. I took him of the pegs. Then Huffer. A tough looking robot. Gears. Then a yellow Cliffjumper. When I turned to look at the rest of the selection someone grabbed a yellow Bumblebee. The only one. I was pissed. They had multiples of the ones in my hands and that was it. At least I had these. Some of my favorites were fast cars and jets. Take a look at my user name. All the Trans formers were cool. Some I liked more than others, but I wanted to get them all. I never saw a commercial and didn't know of the comic books. I didn't collect comic books until I was old enough to buy them myself. I watched the cartoon when it first came out. I saw the commercial when it would be on. I got Optimus Prime for my birthday. A lot of voice actors died over the years. Voice actors for Gears, Hound, Sky Lynx, & Cyclonus are some to add to the list that are no longer with us. I've watched a lot of cartoons over the years, but Transformers has been my favorite since 1984. :BOT: :CON: :DANCE: ;)^ :PEACE:
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Re: Seibertron.com Editorial - The Truly Thrilling Thirtieth of The Transformers

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:02 pm

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I was five when I saw the premiere. I have distinct memories of watching Transformers. For me, THIS is the thirtieth birthday of the franchise. It may not be the best version, but it's my favorite and still pretty damned good in its own right.

Happy birthday, Transformers. :) And thirty more!
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Postby Sabrblade » Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:41 pm

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My history of discovering G1 is a bit more complicated, full of misconceptions and false assumptions.

It was Beast Wars that got me introduced to the TF franchise before any other, in 1996. At the time, I had a friend who had told me that there used to be another show called just "Transformers" (as opposed to "Beast Wars: Transformers", which was what I only knew of at the time), and that that show had the characters called "Autobots" and "Decepticons", who turned into vehicles (cars and trucks for the good guys, and jets and tanks for the bad guys) instead of animals, and were the giant ancestors of the Maximals and Predacons (who were more human-sized). And that the Autobots' leader was called "Optimus Prime" instead of " Optimus Primal", and that he turned into a truck, large enough for a person sit inside. This info intrigued me, but I didn't look into it any further since Beast Wars was what really appealed to me at the time.

Some short time after this, the Machine Wars toyline started showing up at KB Toys and, because these toys matched everything that had been told to me before (with the exception of the toys being called "Machine Wars: Transformers" instead of just "Transformers"), I assumed that these were rereleases of the older characters that were the ancestors of Beast Wars cast, and that my friend got his info wrong on the series being called just "Transformers" instead of "Machine Wars: Transformers". At that time, I assumed that Machine Wars was G1. I now look back and chuckle at that mistake. :lol:

Though, I gradually began to notice that some things did not add up. Like, when the episode where Starscream possessed Waspinator reaired, I noticed how Starscream in that episode's flashbacks looked different from the Machine Wars Starscream toy. And then much later, when "The Agenda" three-parter aired, I noticed how Ravage was described as being a former Decepticon and yet had no Machine Wars toy. And in the third part of that three-part episode, I saw how G1 Optimus Prime barely resembled his Machine Wars toy counterpart as well (at that time, I also thought the idea of mouthplates was silly, since none of the BW cast had them--I assumed Optimus Primal's was just a "mouth cover" that he wore only when necessary; and the Machine Wars Prime toy didn't have a mouthplate either). And finally, during the season 3 episode "Master Blaster", I caught how the original Megatron in that episode didn't look that much like his Machine Wars toy either. So, what did I tell myself to make sense of all these discrepencies? I simply brushed them off as cartoon mistakes and took the Machine Wars version as the "correct" versions (and assumed that Ravage had been a non-toy character, or that his toy was not included in the Machine Wars "rereleases"). Silly naive me. :lol:

Finally, circa 2001, Beast Machines was coming to a close and I had by then forgotten about the short-lived Machine Wars toyline and then came to see the first commercials for a new cartoon called "Transformers: Robots in Disguise". Such a name and look resurfaced memories of old. Memories of what I had been told before of a series just called "Transformers". I saw that, to me, the Optimus Prime in this show looked close enough to the one seen in the Ark during Beast Wars, but I still figured that that Megatron lying in the Ark was animation error. After seeing these commercials for and episode 1 of RiD, I assumed once again that this was G1, and that the whole "Decepticon" thing had been some kind of mistake (since the main bad guys here were still Predacons). Yes, I had then momentarily forgotten about Ravage and the stasis locked Decepticons on the Ark in BW. But then when they introduced the Decepticons for real in RiD, I retreated my previous assumption and just figured that the Decepticons would later become the dominant faction later on, with the Preds disappearing and new Preds showing up again later as the Decepticons' descendants.

By 2002, however, my belief of RiD having been G1 was ultimately killed by two factors.
1. Hasbro.com began promoting a new series called "Transformers: Armada", and I was like "Huh? What is this? I thought they already had a show like this. Why are they making another series with Autobots and Decepticons? Is this a sequel or something?"
2. I stumbled upon VHS tapes of a show called "The Original Transformers" at a local video store. I later picked up a few, watched'em, read the back cover descriptions of how these were episode from a 1980s cartoon, and gradually came to understand that this was the original series after all, and that both Machine Wars and RiD were just their own things.

Once I came to understand how the concept of reboots worked, I was able to warm up better to Armada than my initial reactions had been. Though, this was still long before the Armada cartoon came out. After having watched a fair number of G1 video tapes, I began to notice some fanwank references added in to the RiD cartoon, like how RiD Optimus and RiD Ultra Magnus were built by "Alpha Trion", and how RiD Optimus had been given "the Matrix" by "Vector Sigma".

Since then, I went on to collect the Kid Rhino DVD sets of G1 around 2003-2004 and watched them all from start to finish. And having watched the G1 movie during this DVD watch, I finally understood who Unicron was and what his appearances in Beast Wars were about. That fake flashback with him killing Starscream and his giant golden head being projected by the Vok finally made sense to me.

So, yeah, if it hadn't been for Armada and Kid Rhino, I probably wouldn't have discovered G1 as early as I did.
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Re: Happy Transformers 30th Anniversary!

Postby padfoo » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:16 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Wow. I didn't realize the image amount in my previous post totaled to 101. Yikes!

Happy 30th!

WOW what an amazing compilation of images, so many transformations of the brand in 30 years!
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Postby chuckdawg1999 » Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:37 pm

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Fantastic article. Before the Transformers and GI Joe all I had to watch were Looney Tunes, Mighty Mouse, and Hannah Barbera.
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Re: Seibertron.com Editorial - The Truly Thrilling Thirtieth of The Transformers

Postby Darkman20xx » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:41 am

Unless I'm wrong I have vivid memories that Transformers originally came on a Sunday morning when I saw it the first time. Possibly Saturday but I am pretty positive before it went to a weekday show it was on a weekend day. I remember having a lot of Gobots, real and KOs but I specifically remember having the oversized yellow beetle that had the whole canopy of the car for a head and the jeep with the spare tire on his head. My instant Hound and Bumblebee and from right there I was hooked. I started getting one or two of the smaller figures every week when my Mother hit the supermarket and I got Optimus and Megatron that Christmas. Funny thing is I didn't give a rats ass about Cons back then and I remember wishing my parents could have found Sideswipe, or Mirage instead of getting Megatron (I know, I sound like a Brat right? ) My cousin who was a year older ended up getting cars like Sunstreaker and it always seemed like whatever I had he didn't and vice versa. On family gatherings he would pack up the Transformers carrying case which he also got and bring the figures over and for just that holiday moment we would almost have a full set. Total Transformers Nirvana.

Didn't really get into any thing else on that level until Captain Power came out. If they ever bring those things out again god help my wallet. #-o
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Re: Seibertron.com Editorial - The Truly Thrilling Thirtieth of The Transformers

Postby Bluespindash97 » Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:41 am

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Despite not even being born within the G1 franchise I find myself on days off watching these episodes on DVD. They rocked in the Eighties and they still rock now, much better the childerns T.V today. They exist in the exact middle, they light heated and yet still dark at the same time. Writing my own scripts for youtube stop motions I now this is a hard balance to strike. So transformers whatever the future holds, we'll still have the classics if everything goes pear shaped!
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Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:13 am

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If anything, G1 animated has some of the best human/Autobot interaction and human characters. And I'll take the EDC over NEST or... whatever the hell they've got in Prime, if anything.
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Postby Sabrblade » Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:54 am

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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:If anything, G1 animated has some of the best human/Autobot interaction and human characters. And I'll take the EDC over NEST or... whatever the hell they've got in Prime, if anything.
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Re: Seibertron.com Editorial - The Truly Thrilling Thirtieth of The Transformers

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:26 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:If anything, G1 animated has some of the best human/Autobot interaction and human characters. And I'll take the EDC over NEST or... whatever the hell they've got in Prime, if anything.
Agent Fowler of Unit:E, who was a fantastic character in his own right.

Yeah, he was good. I'll still take Marissa and the EDC over him.
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Postby DarkEnergon » Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:57 am

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Well, I was about the perfect age when Transformers and GI Joe came on TV. 9 years old. I had just started getting into comic books, my dad would usually by me a $.75 comic after a soccer game, and I went for issue #3 and got hooked, and still have imprinted on my brain the awesome cover of issue #4! I don't have any of my old toys, but still have all my comics, including three of the awesome Transformers Universe yearbook issues with the detailed capsules of each character.

I was zombified in afternoons at home alone after school in front of the TV: He-Man, Transformers, GI Joe.

My little sister oddly was the one who loved robots, and *she* got Soundwave for christmas, and I got... Ratchet. With the head behind the windshield who looked nothing like TV/comics. And neither me or my dad could transform him easily.

But I also got Wheeljack, Windcharger, and Bumblebee. And those three with Soundwave got a lot of use!! Wheeljack to this day is my favorite character - and he remains one of the few "inventor/scientist" characters in all of fiction who wasn't a Big Nerd (him and Tony Stark, right?).

I remember playing with friends, and everyone being in awe of the Jetfire toy, and when we saw Kup and Blurr in these cool "Cybertron" modes, that was a big deal too.

I can remember when the cartoon came out and the toys came out, every kid in school talking about them and some bringing them in to show them off. I remember showing them to bewildered and amazed uncles and cousins.

I also remember not being allowed to see the movie!!! I just saw it this year! My mom later told me it was because she heard Optimus Prime died and her friends complaining how it upset their kids! After two years I had added Megatron, Shockwave, Perceptor, Warpath, Seaspray, Tracks, and that was about it :( Then I was 12 and collected GI Joe in secret because it wasn't cool to play with toys when in middle school :)

So then for like 20 years I didn't think about Transformers, and the movie comes out, and my 5 yr old son is all into robots, someone gives him one of those giant bumblebee's that talks and doesn't transform, buy the movie toys seem to absolutely suck to me, but then we discover Animated - toys with solid parts, not shards - and I'm sucked right back in!!! My boys are like the only kids at their school who know anything about transformers. Everyone else is all ninjago and star wars!

(and eventually I come around to appreciate many of the movie toys as a grownup with advanced dexterity :)
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Re: Seibertron.com Editorial - The Truly Thrilling Thirtieth of The Transformers

Postby ScottyP » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:39 am

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This thread is amazing. So many cool stories!
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Postby Thadicon » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:28 pm

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Awesome article!! I think I was around 3 when I started watching Transformers that was in 1987. My Mum was dating a guy and his Parents managed a hotel complex just outside of New Plymouth, New Zealand. It had a little VHS shop where kids on holiday could rent them out naturally I grabbed the first season went to the kitchen asked for some food and headed back the to the room we were in and just watched Transformers.

I remember my first Transformer I got was Rampage I wanted a Skywarp too but got told I was getting greedy I remember doing the transformation sound when changed him into robot and back. Kids brought their Transformers to School and we would check out which ones the rich kids had, surprisingly no one had a Megatron.

So much nostalgia reading evryone else's experiences when the cartoons first came out. :DANCE: :KREMZEEK:
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