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Alpha Strike wrote:a movie's largest critics now singing its praises? Damn this is gotta be one hell of a movie to induce that sort of transformation.

You're suprised by the change of heart?

Of course it's ironic that people who condemned the movie based on un-finished material now seem to be praising it based on the opinions of others who have only seen a small sampling.

Most of us based how the movie would be on the look of the bots

Hey guys,

I've written about 1/2 of my review of the "event" so far. I haven't gotten to writing about the incredible scenes that we saw at the theatre. I'm falling asleep writing this since I only got about 4 hours of sleep last night and have been up since 7 this morning (Eastern). I have a long day of traveling tomorrow and will have plenty of time to finish writing my review then. I'm going to get some sleep tonight and promise that there'll be a review up on the site within 24 hours. New York kicked my ass. It's been a blast but I'm beat!

Ok, this I find very interesting ...

I asked, "Why is Optimus Prime a long nose Peter-built model rather than the classic flat-nose version?" Bay responded explaining that the flat-nose version would not allow Prime to realistically transform into the 28-foot tall robot they were looking for. The classic look gave Prime a height of only 23 feet, while the longer nose gives Prime more to work with when transforming. This height difference was a factor in keeping Megatron and Prime in the proper scale to each other.

Damn, if I'd known Bay wanted a TALL Optimus I would've sent him MY design! Its based on a Peterbilt VERY close to the movie's, (MINUS the flames!) and is surprisingly faithful to G1 OP. I actually went to a Peterbilt yard with my measuring tape, did the numbers, and mine came out at 36 feet, give or take about 2 feet.

Burn wrote:

Alpha Strike wrote:a movie's largest critics now singing its praises? Damn this is gotta be one hell of a movie to induce that sort of transformation.

You're suprised by the change of heart?

Of course it's ironic that people who condemned the movie based on un-finished material now seem to be praising it based on the opinions of others who have only seen a small sampling.

It wasn't a small sampling. It was about 25 minutes of film. 4 different scenes. Sure, there's a lot that we haven't seen but what I did see was absolutely incredible. I still think there were better ways to do the robot modes but what I saw tonight was mind blowing. I get it now. Now I understand what they were trying to tell us when they said "you need to wait until you see this in person, see a Transformer transform."

Greed wrote:

Megatron_Wolf wrote:Lucky bastard, Lets hope some one snuck in a camera

You know someone did.

I'm still on the fence as whether or not I'll see this movie.

I would highly doubt it. It was mostly people in suits. Not the kind of people that would be sneaking in a camera.

Megatron_Wolf wrote:were the hell in new york was it shown? i live on long island and didnt hear anything. if id have known i wouldve gone. god damn it

It was invitation only and was not open to the public.

Good to know you've been swayed for the most part. Maybe it'll get a few others to rethink whether or not they'll see it. Regardless I'm glad you're not posting this till morning. Gives me a chance to sleep before reading a long review.

Nemesis_Apoc wrote:It must be related to this that I found at Tformers.com earlier.

http://seibertron.com/forums/viewtopic. ... 3ec2fbe2f8

Did anyone see this from the article:

Michael Bay also stated that it takes them something like 38 hours to render 1 frame of the film with the robots in it.

38 hours for 1 frame? There's either very few frames with robots in it or else Bay needs to get moving quickly if he wants to make deadline.

Seibertron wrote:

Megatron_Wolf wrote:were the hell in new york was it shown? i live on long island and didnt hear anything. if id have known i wouldve gone. god damn it

It was invitation only and was not open to the public.

Well, I am very glad they invited you. I give Dreamworks or Paramount credit if they were the ones who offered you an invitation.

stormrider wrote:

Nemesis_Apoc wrote:It must be related to this that I found at Tformers.com earlier.

http://seibertron.com/forums/viewtopic. ... 3ec2fbe2f8

Did anyone see this from the article:

Michael Bay also stated that it takes them something like 38 hours to render 1 frame of the film with the robots in it.

38 hours for 1 frame? There's either very few frames with robots in it or else Bay needs to get moving quickly if he wants to make deadline.

I'm thinking that has to be a misprint. I don't care if you have a million poly model it's not going to take that long to render a single frame. 38 minutes? Yeah that's understandable.

Seibertron wrote:Now I understand what they were trying to tell us when they said "you need to wait until you see this in person, see a Transformer transform."

That's what I was saying ... don't judge until you see it. Though you were at least open minded about things Ryan, I just hope some of those who are firmly against the movie will at least be swayed enough to CONSIDER checking it out and who knows, hopefully fully supporting it.

Holy crap, I think this movie might just make it! From the IGN article:

"And that's when you hear the classic transforming noise from the cartoon. Yes, guys, it's in there."

Awesome.

This sounds sweet. I, like many others had my reservations about the bot designs but gave up a long time ago hoping for a G1 accurate movie. I've just gone with this crazy roller coaster ride of a process and prayed every step of the way that Bay could put his skills to best use (some would say he has no skill, but I digress).

Anyway, looks like the PMA has paid off looking at the preview reviews I can't wait to read yours Ryan.

Burn wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Now I understand what they were trying to tell us when they said "you need to wait until you see this in person, see a Transformer transform."

That's what I was saying ... don't judge until you see it. Though you were at least open minded about things Ryan, I just hope some of those who are firmly against the movie will at least be swayed enough to CONSIDER checking it out and who knows, hopefully fully supporting it.

I'd like to think they'd be swayed, but I doubt it. No matter how many people say it looks good you'll always have the haters.

And darn you needing sleep, Seibs . Now I gotta what til tomorrow evening when I wake up to read your review.

i hope somebody will be able to leak some footage !!!

ROCK ON

Although I'm in the News Crew... Are we getting another trailer before the movie will be in the cinemas?

... Whoohoo! I guess the movie won't be as bad as some fans thought! TF RULEZ!!!

I knew this movie was going to be sweet. Thanks Seibertron!

Zuko wrote:

stormrider wrote:

Nemesis_Apoc wrote:It must be related to this that I found at Tformers.com earlier.

http://seibertron.com/forums/viewtopic. ... 3ec2fbe2f8

Did anyone see this from the article:

Michael Bay also stated that it takes them something like 38 hours to render 1 frame of the film with the robots in it.

38 hours for 1 frame? There's either very few frames with robots in it or else Bay needs to get moving quickly if he wants to make deadline.

I'm thinking that has to be a misprint. I don't care if you have a million poly model it's not going to take that long to render a single frame. 38 minutes? Yeah that's understandable.

38 hours doesn't sound too unreasonable when you consider how much detail is involved. Plus something like this will most likely require several different types of renders for one frame alone (not sure if that's taken into account).

Sounds good so far, so did the TFW review. Sounds like the movie is going to rock. Well don't that beat all?

Zuko wrote:

stormrider wrote:

Nemesis_Apoc wrote:It must be related to this that I found at Tformers.com earlier.

http://seibertron.com/forums/viewtopic. ... 3ec2fbe2f8

Did anyone see this from the article:

Michael Bay also stated that it takes them something like 38 hours to render 1 frame of the film with the robots in it.

38 hours for 1 frame? There's either very few frames with robots in it or else Bay needs to get moving quickly if he wants to make deadline.

I'm thinking that has to be a misprint. I don't care if you have a million poly model it's not going to take that long to render a single frame. 38 minutes? Yeah that's understandable.

I don't think he meant actual hours here...I'm suspecting he meant man-hours. Basically, the hours will depend on how many people are working on the movie. If one person works for 2 hours, you get two man-hours. If TEN people work for 2 hours you get 20 man-hours...a lot more work done in a very little amount of time. That's where the high price tag for this movie comes in: you have to pay hundreds of uber-geek computer geniuses for thousands of hours of work over the course of 9 months to polish the movie effects.

The scenes sound like EXACT copies of the scenes from that horrible, horrible script.

So Micheal Bay has made a pretty film? I truly did not see that coming. I am interested in the dialogue, characterization, story etc.


The Autobots interaction intrigues me. As for the designs and how they work in live action. I am very excited to see how that plays out. Describe how they talk if you can Ryan.

Thanks.

tile_mcgillus wrote:The scenes sound like EXACT copies of the scenes from that horrible, horrible script.

So Micheal Bay has made a pretty film? I truly did not see that coming. I am interested in the dialogue, characterization, story etc.


The Autobots interaction intrigues me. As for the designs and how they work in live action. I am very excited to see how that plays out. Describe how they talk if you can Ryan.

Thanks.

they might not of added the robot dailogue in yet.