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Postby Glyph » Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:54 am

Leonardo wrote:Can anyone remind me what jokes/gags/humour were in ID4?

From what I remember, it mostly revolved around an adrenaline-fueled Will Smith shouting at an alien before punching it out. There were a few 'mildly amusing' moments, mostly in the you-know-what's-coming-but-you-laugh-anyway vein. I haven't watched the film in years, but the overriding impression of it in my memory consists of big effects and some seriously overblown flag-waving about America saving the world - again - because no-one else has the balls to stand up for our rights or some such. And Jeff Goldblum infecting the alien mothership with a virus wirelessly uploaded from his laptop with no connection difficulties or OS compatibility issues whatsoever.
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Postby Leonardo » Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:09 am

Glyph wrote:
Leonardo wrote:Can anyone remind me what jokes/gags/humour were in ID4?

From what I remember, it mostly revolved around an adrenaline-fueled Will Smith shouting at an alien before punching it out. There were a few 'mildly amusing' moments, mostly in the you-know-what's-coming-but-you-laugh-anyway vein. I haven't watched the film in years, but the overriding impression of it in my memory consists of big effects and some seriously overblown flag-waving about America saving the world - again - because no-one else has the balls to stand up for our rights or some such. And Jeff Goldblum infecting the alien mothership with a virus wirelessly uploaded from his laptop with no connection difficulties or OS compatibility issues whatsoever.


Well, Glyph, your glowing review has sold me. I must now revisit the film.
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Postby High Command » Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:47 am

Glyph wrote:
Leonardo wrote:Can anyone remind me what jokes/gags/humour were in ID4?

From what I remember, it mostly revolved around an adrenaline-fueled Will Smith shouting at an alien before punching it out. There were a few 'mildly amusing' moments, mostly in the you-know-what's-coming-but-you-laugh-anyway vein. I haven't watched the film in years, but the overriding impression of it in my memory consists of big effects and some seriously overblown flag-waving about America saving the world - again - because no-one else has the balls to stand up for our rights or some such. And Jeff Goldblum infecting the alien mothership with a virus wirelessly uploaded from his laptop with no connection difficulties or OS compatibility issues whatsoever.


I thought America saving the world with patriotic spirit was the comedy in that movie. :?
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Postby Down_Shift » Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:54 am

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Oh good, it has icing now. It'll make it easier for you to swallow when I feed it to you in a few months. :P

People pay good money to be talked to like that, and your tossing it around here for free. For shame. (That's the kind of humour I'm willing to bet is in the film:wink:)
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Postby Alex Kingdom » Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:57 am

Glyph wrote:
Leonardo wrote:Can anyone remind me what jokes/gags/humour were in ID4?

From what I remember, it mostly revolved around an adrenaline-fueled Will Smith shouting at an alien before punching it out. There were a few 'mildly amusing' moments, mostly in the you-know-what's-coming-but-you-laugh-anyway vein. I haven't watched the film in years, but the overriding impression of it in my memory consists of big effects and some seriously overblown flag-waving about America saving the world - again - because no-one else has the balls to stand up for our rights or some such. And Jeff Goldblum infecting the alien mothership with a virus wirelessly uploaded from his laptop with no connection difficulties or OS compatibility issues whatsoever.


Yeah thats pretty much how I remember it. The offenive part was the motague of racial stereotypes recieving the call from Bill Pullman (the US President) that he and America had devisd a plan save our asses, yet again. I think us Brit were depicted as mustache twirling WWII Spitfire piolts saying something like "jolly good show, about time you Americans sorted this little mess out! Tally ho and God save the Queen, what what!".

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Postby Emperor Primacron the 1st » Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:08 am

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Postby Down_Shift » Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:37 am

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Glyph wrote:
Leonardo wrote:Can anyone remind me what jokes/gags/humour were in ID4?

From what I remember, it mostly revolved around an adrenaline-fueled Will Smith shouting at an alien before punching it out. There were a few 'mildly amusing' moments, mostly in the you-know-what's-coming-but-you-laugh-anyway vein. I haven't watched the film in years, but the overriding impression of it in my memory consists of big effects and some seriously overblown flag-waving about America saving the world - again - because no-one else has the balls to stand up for our rights or some such. And Jeff Goldblum infecting the alien mothership with a virus wirelessly uploaded from his laptop with no connection difficulties or OS compatibility issues whatsoever.


Yeah thats pretty much how I remember it. The offenive part was the motague of racial stereotypes recieving the call from Bill Pullman (the US President) that he and America had devisd a plan save our asses, yet again. I think us Brit were depicted as mustache twirling WWII Spitfire piolts saying something like "jolly good show, about time you Americans sorted this little mess out! Tally ho and God save the Queen, what what!".

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Hahaha... Mustache twirling. That's pure gold.
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Postby ShGarland_1383 » Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:19 pm

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I'm not saying if he did or not because I have no way of knowing.

There just isn't any point of him even trying to approach VW when they've taken this anti-war stance about refusing to let Hasbro make a Bumblebee where his alt-mode is the VW Beetle.
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Postby Shin Getter Robo » Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:27 pm

Am I to understand that this movie depicts the British in a poor light?
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Postby Leonardo » Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:40 pm

Kamen Rider Harry Munk wrote:Am I to understand that this movie depicts the British in a poor light?


We do that ourselves with Only Fools And Horses and the lager louts in Thurrock.

There is rumour of Prime having a radio-conversation with a very British Powerglide, though.
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Postby Kayevcee » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:04 pm

"Am I to understand that this movie depicts the British in a poor light?"

I thought they were saying that Independence Day did that- a subject we got onto when Ryan commented that the humourous elements in the TF film were similar in feel to ID4 (the gags that is, not the casual racism).

The first time I saw Independence Day I thought it was amazing. The second time I saw it I spent most of my time picking out which bits were ripped wholesale from War of the World and which bits from "V". TF has a leg up already by at least having a halfway original premise.

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Postby peagreenbot » Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:03 pm

TF has a leg up already by at least having a halfway original premise.


But is this film not diminishing that premise by simply making it 'Independence Day' but with robots instead of squishy aliens stolen from the X-Files?

From what I've read about the film it simply feels like a bunch of bumbling robots chasing after a cosmic Maguffin, waiting for the humans to solve their problems (god bless America); add a little T&A and lotsa explosions and voila!

OK, it's just a story based on a toy and yadda yadda yadda, but couldn't we have something more substantial?
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Postby Nemesis Cyberplex » Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:09 pm

Down_Shift wrote:
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Glyph wrote:
Leonardo wrote:Can anyone remind me what jokes/gags/humour were in ID4?

From what I remember, it mostly revolved around an adrenaline-fueled Will Smith shouting at an alien before punching it out. There were a few 'mildly amusing' moments, mostly in the you-know-what's-coming-but-you-laugh-anyway vein. I haven't watched the film in years, but the overriding impression of it in my memory consists of big effects and some seriously overblown flag-waving about America saving the world - again - because no-one else has the balls to stand up for our rights or some such. And Jeff Goldblum infecting the alien mothership with a virus wirelessly uploaded from his laptop with no connection difficulties or OS compatibility issues whatsoever.


Yeah thats pretty much how I remember it. The offenive part was the motague of racial stereotypes recieving the call from Bill Pullman (the US President) that he and America had devisd a plan save our asses, yet again. I think us Brit were depicted as mustache twirling WWII Spitfire piolts saying something like "jolly good show, about time you Americans sorted this little mess out! Tally ho and God save the Queen, what what!".

Yours AK


Hahaha... Mustache twirling. That's pure gold.
He forgot to mention anything about afternoon tea.... :grin:
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Lets set the record straight.

Postby trunks6728 » Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:24 am

WHile i really dislike the starscream and megatron charector design, i am still going to give the movie a chance. i am not going in expecting it to be g1. i accept that isn't going to happen and big explosions, aliens might be a american thing but if you don't like it, then don't watch the movie.. there were plenty of battles and explosions in the cartoon series. I am not all that excited about the comedy in there but it won't be that bad..

first off.. Independence day was an american film and revolved around independence day which is an american holiday. And yes america saved the world.. and.. it was a movie. anyone offended by anything in that movie is reaching and shows how uptight some are about things. The movie was actualy good, it was a sci fi movie. the scene some are referring to is "we got a message, it is from the americans, they figured out how to lower the shilds: The other guy said it is about bloody time.. that was it.. that didn't demean anyone, it was just that the movie centered around the U.S and they figured it out. wow.. so stereo typical and racist.

it came out in the 90's when apparently everyone didn't think to much about hating on america.

while of course there are america haters and blame america first for everything even though whether you agree or not with the current situation. we have saved half the worlds asses several times. and there is nothing wrong with a patriotic movie or people feeling that way about thier country. why in the world anyone is bringing politics or steriotypeing america like some are doing showing how hypocritical they are is really amusing.

Nothing is going to get better until people learn that things arn't always going to go thier way. there are too many easily offended people in the world and it is people like that who need to get a life.
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Postby Emperor Galvatron » Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:39 am

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I have one thing to say about any humor that will be in this film.


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Postby Maximus Prime » Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:38 pm

Well Ryan, what's up? Did you get home finally, and how ?
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Postby cor2879 » Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:00 pm

So... we going to get that review some time soon? : D
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Postby Seibertron » Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:10 pm

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Postby Hotrod » Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:14 pm

Seibertron wrote:This should be posted tomorrow night. It's mostly written ... I just have to make a few tweaks. I'll be on the train to head to Ann Arbor, Michigan tomorrow so I'll spend an hour finishing it up and will post it when I get settled into my hotel room tomorrow night.


Cool, I am still looking forward to it :D
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Postby Milanion » Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:27 pm

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Postby partholon » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:38 am

mental note to self. the review is past page 13 :grin: :grin:
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Postby SoulOfPrimus » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:08 pm

Hey Ryan, you should put the review in a new thread.

Where are you off to now? Seib's Planetary Thrusters are firing on all cylinders. Also, good call on the Train.
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Postby Maximus Prime » Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:34 pm

That's not just Jesus, that's Buddy Christ. :D
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