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Postby TheMuffin » Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:33 am

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Nemesis_Apoc wrote:It must be related to this that I found at Tformers.com earlier.

http://seibertron.com/forums/viewtopic. ... 3ec2fbe2f8


Did anyone see this from the article:

Michael Bay also stated that it takes them something like 38 hours to render 1 frame of the film with the robots in it.


38 hours for 1 frame? There's either very few frames with robots in it or else Bay needs to get moving quickly if he wants to make deadline.


I'm thinking that has to be a misprint. I don't care if you have a million poly model it's not going to take that long to render a single frame. 38 minutes? Yeah that's understandable.
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Postby Burn » Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:14 am

Seibertron wrote:Now I understand what they were trying to tell us when they said "you need to wait until you see this in person, see a Transformer transform."


That's what I was saying ... don't judge until you see it. Though you were at least open minded about things Ryan, I just hope some of those who are firmly against the movie will at least be swayed enough to CONSIDER checking it out and who knows, hopefully fully supporting it.
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Postby zoso504 » Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:31 am

Holy crap, I think this movie might just make it! From the IGN article:

"And that's when you hear the classic transforming noise from the cartoon. Yes, guys, it's in there."

Awesome.
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Postby Yeti » Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:47 am

This sounds sweet. I, like many others had my reservations about the bot designs but gave up a long time ago hoping for a G1 accurate movie. I've just gone with this crazy roller coaster ride of a process and prayed every step of the way that Bay could put his skills to best use (some would say he has no skill, but I digress).

Anyway, looks like the PMA has paid off looking at the preview reviews :) I can't wait to read yours Ryan.
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Postby D-340 » Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:47 am

Burn wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Now I understand what they were trying to tell us when they said "you need to wait until you see this in person, see a Transformer transform."


That's what I was saying ... don't judge until you see it. Though you were at least open minded about things Ryan, I just hope some of those who are firmly against the movie will at least be swayed enough to CONSIDER checking it out and who knows, hopefully fully supporting it.


I'd like to think they'd be swayed, but I doubt it. No matter how many people say it looks good you'll always have the haters.

And darn you needing sleep, Seibs :lol: . Now I gotta what til tomorrow evening when I wake up to read your review.
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Postby Optimus_julio » Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:17 am

i hope somebody will be able to leak some footage !!!
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Postby Calenatarion » Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:06 am

Although I'm in the News Crew... Are we getting another trailer before the movie will be in the cinemas?
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Postby Sickshot » Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:53 am

... Whoohoo! I guess the movie won't be as bad as some fans thought! TF RULEZ!!!
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Postby SAJse » Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:56 am

Zuko wrote:
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Nemesis_Apoc wrote:It must be related to this that I found at Tformers.com earlier.

http://seibertron.com/forums/viewtopic. ... 3ec2fbe2f8


Did anyone see this from the article:

Michael Bay also stated that it takes them something like 38 hours to render 1 frame of the film with the robots in it.


38 hours for 1 frame? There's either very few frames with robots in it or else Bay needs to get moving quickly if he wants to make deadline.


I'm thinking that has to be a misprint. I don't care if you have a million poly model it's not going to take that long to render a single frame. 38 minutes? Yeah that's understandable.

38 hours doesn't sound too unreasonable when you consider how much detail is involved. Plus something like this will most likely require several different types of renders for one frame alone (not sure if that's taken into account).
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Postby Milanion » Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:18 am

Sounds good so far, so did the TFW review. Sounds like the movie is going to rock. Well don't that beat all?
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Zuko wrote:
stormrider wrote:
Nemesis_Apoc wrote:It must be related to this that I found at Tformers.com earlier.

http://seibertron.com/forums/viewtopic. ... 3ec2fbe2f8


Did anyone see this from the article:

Michael Bay also stated that it takes them something like 38 hours to render 1 frame of the film with the robots in it.


38 hours for 1 frame? There's either very few frames with robots in it or else Bay needs to get moving quickly if he wants to make deadline.


I'm thinking that has to be a misprint. I don't care if you have a million poly model it's not going to take that long to render a single frame. 38 minutes? Yeah that's understandable.


I don't think he meant actual hours here...I'm suspecting he meant man-hours. Basically, the hours will depend on how many people are working on the movie. If one person works for 2 hours, you get two man-hours. If TEN people work for 2 hours you get 20 man-hours...a lot more work done in a very little amount of time. That's where the high price tag for this movie comes in: you have to pay hundreds of uber-geek computer geniuses for thousands of hours of work over the course of 9 months to polish the movie effects.
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Postby tile_mcgillus » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:05 am

The scenes sound like EXACT copies of the scenes from that horrible, horrible script.

So Micheal Bay has made a pretty film? I truly did not see that coming. I am interested in the dialogue, characterization, story etc.


The Autobots interaction intrigues me. As for the designs and how they work in live action. I am very excited to see how that plays out. Describe how they talk if you can Ryan.

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Postby HitsugiKun » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:16 am

tile_mcgillus wrote:The scenes sound like EXACT copies of the scenes from that horrible, horrible script.

So Micheal Bay has made a pretty film? I truly did not see that coming. I am interested in the dialogue, characterization, story etc.


The Autobots interaction intrigues me. As for the designs and how they work in live action. I am very excited to see how that plays out. Describe how they talk if you can Ryan.

Thanks.


they might not of added the robot dailogue in yet.
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Postby Glyph » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:53 am

SAJse wrote:
stormrider wrote:38 hours for 1 frame? There's either very few frames with robots in it or else Bay needs to get moving quickly if he wants to make deadline.

38 hours doesn't sound too unreasonable when you consider how much detail is involved.

Yeah, it does. At 38 hours per frame, ILM have enough time between now and the movie's release date - not counting time needed to edit the final product and ship it to theatres - to render a little less than 4 seconds of one effects shot.

If we imagine that effects shots with the robots make up a total of 20 minutes of film - which I think is a pretty conservative estimate - that's nearly 30,000 frames, or 1,094,000 hours of render time. That's 125 years! Either ILM are running a massively parallel render farm to the tune of seven or eight thousand simultaneous frames - and while I'm sure that ILM have a pretty damn good setup, given that rendering effects is their business, I'm not inclined to believe that they are - or the article (or Bay) got the numbers way wrong.

Presumably it's meant to refer to some combination of human and computer hours to actually set up and produce the shot, averaged over the total number of frames. If ILM has enough people working on the movie in some capacity or another, I'd be prepared to accept that.
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Postby Autobobby1 » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:15 am

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Postby Maximus Prime » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:33 am

I'm impressed that Bay was able to shut everyone up to the point that all they have left to **** about is whether 38 hours of manpower was an over-estimation, an exaggeration, or a mistake.
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Postby Archibald Witwicky » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:44 am

Maximus Prime wrote:I'm impressed that Bay was able to shut everyone up to the point that all they have left to **** about is whether 38 hours of manpower was an over-estimation, an exaggeration, or a mistake.


Truely.

I'm just waiting for people to start claiming Bay/Hasbro/Dreamworks/whoever paid off TFW, Ryan, and whoever else to give positive word of mouth.
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Postby TheMuffin » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:50 am

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Archibald Witwicky wrote:
Maximus Prime wrote:I'm impressed that Bay was able to shut everyone up to the point that all they have left to **** about is whether 38 hours of manpower was an over-estimation, an exaggeration, or a mistake.


Truely.

I'm just waiting for people to start claiming Bay/Hasbro/Dreamworks/whoever paid of TFW, Ryan, and whoever else to give positive word of mouth.


*Shoves money back into his pocket* Nah they wouldn't stoop that low.
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Postby Alex Kingdom » Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:12 am

From what I have read on other sites I don't think this review is going to change my opinion of this movie. I have always expected it to look spectacular, the effects to be awesome and the action to be breathtaking. However since I head Bay was directing it I have also always expected it to have a lame story with generic characters filled out with pathetic crappy (unfunny) low brow humour. None of what I have read elsewhere suggests any thing different from what I have suspected all along.

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Postby tile_mcgillus » Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:14 am

Alex Kingdom wrote:From what I have read on other sites I don't think this review is going to change my opinion of this movie. I have always expected it to look spectacular, the effects to be awesome and the action to be breathtaking. However since I head Bay was directing it I have also always expected it to have a lame story with generic characters filled out with pathetic crappy (unfunny) low brow humour. None of what I have read elsewhere suggests any thing different from what I have suspected all along.

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Well said. I concur.
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Postby Bluebullet » Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:15 am

tile_mcgillus wrote:
Alex Kingdom wrote:From what I have read on other sites I don't think this review is going to change my opinion of this movie. I have always expected it to look spectacular, the effects to be awesome and the action to be breathtaking. However since I head Bay was directing it I have also always expected it to have a lame story with generic characters filled out with pathetic crappy (unfunny) low brow humour. None of what I have read elsewhere suggests any thing different from what I have suspected all along.

Yours AK


Well said. I concur.

I also concur.
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Postby WizardMi » Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:20 am

Hey we posted a very cool review of yesterday's Toy Fair Sneak Peak Q & A over at http://www.wizarduniverse.com/movies/transformersmovie/003482974.cfm
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Postby Down_Shift » Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:26 am

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I've been looking forward to this movie from day one. I don't care what they look like (the robots) as long as it feels like a transformers movie. I for one enjoy the occasional low brow comedies. Not all the time, but every once and a while they are good for a chuckle. As for Bays smash mouth exposive style, I like explosions. I hope they are plentiful. I don't care if 38 minutes or 38 hours went into it, as long as it looks good. Can't wait to hear what Seibertron has to say of it. Good or bad, I'll be seeing the movie myself to judge it.
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