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Sentinel from Animated was a good guy

Postby TurboMMaster » Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:44 am

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Even though I'm Animated anti-fan i must admit there were two great things about this series: It's Blitzwig and Sentinel Characters. Sentinel was great because he was first Anti-Autobot character at least since sometime, and with prominent role. I really like that we hava an Autobot that is power thirsty, maniacal yerk.

But actually, I belive that Sentinel attitude was pretty much a facade. After watching episode called nomen omen "Predacons Rising" i start to think that deep inside he was a good, miserable guy. He just is to proud to admit that he feel responsible for Arcee fate, and he belives that he supposed to be superior to everyone since he is Prime. This is also reason why he threat Optimus so badly: in fact he consider him as he's best (if not only true) friend ( But only friend: I hate al this shipping stuff).

And he's ego is why he so many time was humiliated. He simply tries to prove something not for anyone else, but to himself. In PR we got w prove that he isn't a total jerk, and despite he's annoyance, he clearly is not a evil character.

The one and only reason why I miss Animated Seazon 4 is because I belive we could see in it more of Sentinel's good and soft side, and personally, I think that would be a perect conclusion for Sentinel's story.
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Re: Sentinel from Animated was a good guy

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:08 am

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Had season 4 come about, Ultra Magnus would have succumbed to his wounds and passed away, leading to Sentinel Prime being fully, officially promoted to Sentinel Magnus, in which his ego and vanity would have only gotten more bloated. :P

Which would have made for even more great comedy with him. :lol:
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Re: Sentinel from Animated was a good guy

Postby TurboMMaster » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:23 am

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Why so sure Sentinal would be bad leader? He is charismatic, inteligent and seems to understand that decepticons should be destroyed. He have it's flaws, but there was a small chance for him.

I think i he was going to die in seazon 4, the last few episodes would be about Sentinel becoming true hero.
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Re: Sentinel from Animated was a good guy

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:16 pm

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TurboMMaster wrote:Why so sure Sentinal would be bad leader? He is charismatic, inteligent and seems to understand that decepticons should be destroyed. He have it's flaws, but there was a small chance for him.
We already got a taste of his leadership in "This Is Why I Hate Machines" and in "The Stunti-Con Job", in which his arrogance and conceit dominated above all, even making threats to Sideswipe and Cheetor just because they interrupted the Stunt Convoy performance he was watching.

TurboMMaster wrote:I think i he was going to die in seazon 4, the last few episodes would be about Sentinel becoming true hero.
The actual publicly known information on season 4 says otherwise.

Sentinel Prime existed to be a foil to Optimus so as to make Optimus look even better than he already looked. He was the kind of character who was so good at what he did that we relished seeing him get his comeuppance. A sort of "Our favorite jerkwad we love to hate." :lol:
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Re: Sentinel from Animated was a good guy

Postby TurboMMaster » Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:41 am

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It is all right, but that wasn't the point of this topic. I belive that Sentinel- despite he's arrogance and hot temper, clearly isn't a bad guy. And after all he isn't idiot either.

Maby he have an asperger syndrom, or is a slightly sociopath:)
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Re: Sentinel from Animated was a good guy

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:30 am

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Oh, he's definitely not a bad guy. He's 100% Autobot. But he's isn't a goodie-good Autobot either. He's so good at being what he is, and what he is is a jerk. And that's why he's so liked. The fact that this good guy is so outside of the mold of what defines and separates the good guys from the bad guys makes him all the more fascinating.

He's what TVTropes refers to as a "Nominal Hero", among other things.
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Re: Sentinel from Animated was a good guy

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:28 am

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And if anything, that Spartacus-like chin just accentuates his wannabe true-blue-dyed-in-the-wool hero status. It's so ridiculous it makes him seem that much more of a high-school-jock-douche-bag type.

For the record, I think the title "Magnus" is idiotic. I always thought that was the Autobot's name, and if anything, "Ultra" was his title. I don't know why, maybe because IRL Magnus is an actual name.
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Re: Sentinel from Animated was a good guy

Postby DarkEnergon » Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:53 pm

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The characters in Animated were just so fun - i loved the starscream clones - i loved animated starscream, but i agree that blitzwing and sentinel were the two best.

I would have been fun to see Sentinel change for the better while fighting his insecurities, but i think the better plot would have been optimus trying to work around and eventually overcome sentinel as the leader of the autobots we all know.
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Re: Sentinel from Animated was a good guy

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:57 am

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Also, I wonder if the creators of The Tick gave serious thought to an infringement lawsuit...
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Re: Sentinel from Animated was a good guy

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:32 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Also, I wonder if the creators of The Tick gave serious thought to an infringement lawsuit...
A few of the folks who worked on Animated had also worked on The Tick, so they'd be suing themselves in that case. :P

Also, it's not a blatant ripoff as there are far too many differences in the designs between Sentinel and the Tick to raise any fuss.
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Re: Sentinel from Animated was a good guy

Postby TurboMMaster » Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:16 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Also, it's not a blatant ripoff as there are far too many differences in the designs between Sentinel and the Tick to raise any fuss.
Actually, I belive he have more in common with Plucky Duck from Tiny Toon Adventures since he is acutaly a good and quite powerfull guy with too big ego, and that usually backfires at him. He have (at worst) a lot in common with Zapp Brannigan from Futurama either.

Yet still, he looks like the Tick, and have the same voice actor, so resemblance is obvious.
DarkEnergon wrote:The characters in Animated were just so fun - i loved the starscream clones - i loved animated starscream, but i agree that blitzwing and sentinel were the two best.
I quess it is because they are original. I really like idea of recreating character from scratch, and it's a shame that this is so uncommon, mostly because of fans reception (Althought, Prime had changed many characters, with many characters rectreated from scratch).

I think that it's a shame that "Predacon's Rising" (Animated episode) was aired so lately. Give us a prove that Sentinel consider Optimus as he's best friend at the end of third seazon (Cancelliation aside)?
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Re: Sentinel from Animated was a good guy

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:08 am

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They made Sentinel a homage to the Tick on purpose, but being only a homage rather than a full copy means that they made him look different enough to be his own character while still resembling the Tick's physical appearance to a reasonable extent.

But as for his reconciling with Optimus in "Predacons Rising", it took him learning the truth about Blackarachnia to do so, since he had blamed Optimus all those years for what happened to Elita-1, thinking she had died.

Though, even after that moment between the two, he went right back to belittling Optimus in the "Decepticon Air" episode, and then looked very annoyed and jealous of Optimus when he showed up back on Cybertron with three captured Decepticons (including the mighty Megatron), the Magnus Hammer, and a reconstituted AllSpark.

Then in the season 3.5 story "The Stunti-Con Job", Sentinel finally get fully promoted to Magnus (with Ultra Magnus having succumbed to his wounds and perished) and he smuggly rubs it in Optimus's face every chance he gets, and enjoys every moment of it (Optimus, however, tries not to be bothered by it since he knows Sentinel just wants a moment of glory now that Optimus had become a celebrity).
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Re: Sentinel from Animated was a good guy

Postby TurboMMaster » Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:48 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:But as for his reconciling with Optimus in "Predacons Rising", it took him learning the truth about Blackarachnia to do so, since he had blamed Optimus all those years for what happened to Elita-1, thinking she had died.
I belive that Sentinel lives in denial. Deep inside he is aware that it's all because of him, and he knows what other bots are thinking about him. He is just to proud to confess to it.

I think that he's line in "Predacons Rising" where he said to Optimus, that this reminds him good old days was meaningfull. After all, is there anyone who Sentinel could consider as he's true friend more than Optimus? It is just friendship in very twisted, unoridnary way.

Sabrblade wrote:Though, even after that moment between the two, he went right back to belittling Optimus in the "Decepticon Air" episode, and then looked very annoyed and jealous of Optimus when he showed up back on Cybertron with three captured Decepticons (including the mighty Megatron), the Magnus Hammer, and a reconstituted AllSpark.
So technically, Sentinel is aware that Optimus is in many ways better than him. And that is why he try to prove so badly that this isn't true.
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Re: Sentinel from Animated was a good guy

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:55 pm

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Yep, he does recognize Optimus as better than him at times, but his ego is so great that he puts himself in denial so he'd never admit it, and continues to see himself as the better bot while blaming others for his own faults since he expects everyone to automatically like him and take his side.
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