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I know a lot of people have been talking about how the twins were still visible in the movie even after supposedly being cut out, mostly because you can see their remains during the traitor scene and because of the wrecked smart car. But do you think it was a good thing to cut them out? I personally always like them and would've at least liked to have let them be in there long enough for Sentinel to kill them. What do you think?

They should've been left in. I'm so sick and tired of too many people getting their way. The majority shouldn't lose out to the minority. It just defies logic.

Yet, they won. They got what they wanted, and all I wanted was to scream at the top of my lungs.

Fandoms: Not. Even. Once.

I would say no. DOTM carried a more serious and better tone without the constant slapstick humor the twins put in rotf.

I think they should definitely have at least had their death scene. If they had been in it, people who liked the twins would have been pleased that they were in the movie, and that they died heroically; people who didn't like them would be glad to see them die, and they might have been at least partially redeemed in their eyes due to having heroic deaths. Their deaths would have also helped Sentinel seem more evil.

Optimus1138 wrote:I think they should definitely have at least had their death scene. If they had been in it, people who liked the twins would have been pleased that they were in the movie, and that they died heroically; people who didn't like them would be glad to see them die, and they might have been at least partially redeemed in their eyes due to having heroic deaths. Their deaths would have also helped Sentinel seem more evil.

I fully agree with this. Everyone wins if they were brought in and killed.

I think one Autobot death was enough for the traitor scene. Plus, what makes that scene so powerful is that Ironhide just risked his life for Sentinel, who promptly stabs him in the back.

Having the Twins die just seems like racking up the kill number. Plus, to redeem themselves, they have to do something heroic (jumping into what just killed Ironhide isn't heroic, it's just stupid). Not to mention painting such controversial characters black and killing them off would not at all shrug off all the cries of racism.


Incidentally, it'd have been the 5th & 6th black bot death in a row.

Noideaforaname wrote:I think one Autobot death was enough for the traitor scene. Plus, what makes that scene so powerful is that Ironhide just risked his life for Sentinel, who promptly stabs him in the back.

Having the Twins die just seems like racking up the kill number. Plus, to redeem themselves, they have to do something heroic (jumping into what just killed Ironhide isn't heroic, it's just stupid). Not to mention painting such controversial characters black and killing them off would not at all shrug off all the cries of racism.


Incidentally, it'd have been the 5th & 6th black bot death in a row.

Did you read the novel? If the film had copied even 50% of the impact of their deaths, it would've been a tremendous scene. If they had filmed it as it was in the script, it would've made the audience want Sentinel's head on a stick.

It shouldn't have been cut.

Noideaforaname wrote:I think one Autobot death was enough for the traitor scene. Plus, what makes that scene so powerful is that Ironhide just risked his life for Sentinel, who promptly stabs him in the back.

Having the Twins die just seems like racking up the kill number. Plus, to redeem themselves, they have to do something heroic (jumping into what just killed Ironhide isn't heroic, it's just stupid). Not to mention painting such controversial characters black and killing them off would not at all shrug off all the cries of racism.


Incidentally, it'd have been the 5th & 6th black bot death in a row.

And this is the problem right here. people taking a robots death to the next level. I know your not crying racisim, but there is no need to even make such a conection because the robots were black.
As far as the death scenes go, Autobot32 is right. In the book they run in front of sentinel as he's taking a shot at Bumble Bee. The other attacks Sentinel in defense of his brother. Thats not stupid. That's heroic.

Autobot032 wrote:

Noideaforaname wrote:I think one Autobot death was enough for the traitor scene. Plus, what makes that scene so powerful is that Ironhide just risked his life for Sentinel, who promptly stabs him in the back.

Having the Twins die just seems like racking up the kill number. Plus, to redeem themselves, they have to do something heroic (jumping into what just killed Ironhide isn't heroic, it's just stupid). Not to mention painting such controversial characters black and killing them off would not at all shrug off all the cries of racism.


Incidentally, it'd have been the 5th & 6th black bot death in a row.

Did you read the novel? If the film had copied even 50% of the impact of their deaths, it would've been a tremendous scene. If they had filmed it as it was in the script, it would've made the audience want Sentinel's head on a stick.

It shouldn't have been cut.

Hopefully it'll be one of those deleted scenes they mentioned would be on the DVD.

jaredautobot1 wrote:I know a lot of people have been talking about how the twins were still visible in the movie even after supposedly being cut out, mostly because you can see their remains during the traitor scene and because of the wrecked smart car. But do you think it was a good thing to cut them out? I personally always like them and would've at least liked to have let them be in there long enough for Sentinel to kill them. What do you think?

no,the twins,appliance bots & other tiny bots ruined the ROTF movie for me.