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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:21 am
by s250
as title
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:39 am
by Alex Kingdom
Oh wow this really is an innovation in toy technology, you move one part and another moves by a series of leavers and ratchets, wow it so good, so new we need to give it a really cool(lame) name Automorphing! Yay. :roll:

Seriously haven't toys and Transformers been able to do this for ages? all Hasbro have done for the movie line is give it a name! I mean the figures in my sig have 'Automorphing" capabilities for christsake!

Yours AK

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:49 am
by Bed Bugs
Alex Kingdom wrote:Oh wow this really is an innovation in toy technology, you move one part and another moves by a series of leavers and ratchets, wow it so good, so new we need to give it a really cool(lame) name Automorphing! Yay. :roll:

Seriously haven't toys and Transformers been able to do this for ages? all Hasbro have does for the movie line is give it a name! I mean the figures in my sig have 'Automorphing" capabilities for christsake!

Yours AK


Okay AK, take a deep breath, and try to calm down. Everything's going to be A-OK. :lol:

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:54 am
by Alex Kingdom
Fender Bender wrote:Okay AK, take a deep breath, and try to calm down. Everything's going to be A-OK. :lol:


I'm as cool as a cucumber, but admit it I'm right aren't I? :P

Yours AK

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:58 am
by Burn
So you pull his foot down and his knee opens up for articulation?

Suppose it beats mini-cons and cyber-keys.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:00 am
by turbomagnus
So right that you're off the scale.

I mean, for crying out loud, it was standard issue on Beast Wars-era Basics, you pulled or pushed a tail or head and the figure transformed, nothing new.

Next thing you know Hasbro will be creating Transformers that automatically transform as you move them across a surface and call them, I don't know, 'Battlechargers' sounds nice. Or maybe 'Throttlebots'... No, I've got it, 'Jumpstarters'!

Wait, they've already done THAT too. :-P

(I apologize for any broken Sarcasm Meters....)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:45 am
by Dough-bot
OMG
'Automorphing'
Cash'o'morphing more like, so which non movie figures have 'automorphing'
i can think of

E-Ravage
E-Doomlocks
GF-Nitro convoy

any more :???:

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:46 am
by Loki120
turbomagnus wrote:So right that you're off the scale.

I mean, for crying out loud, it was standard issue on Beast Wars-era Basics, you pulled or pushed a tail or head and the figure transformed, nothing new.

Next thing you know Hasbro will be creating Transformers that automatically transform as you move them across a surface and call them, I don't know, 'Battlechargers' sounds nice. Or maybe 'Throttlebots'... No, I've got it, 'Jumpstarters'!

Wait, they've already done THAT too. :-P

(I apologize for any broken Sarcasm Meters....)


Well, to be fair, the Throttlebots didn't auto-transform.

:grin:

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:03 am
by Burn
This "Auto-morphing" seems to be in multiple spots over the body and "transforms" different parts. TF's like Nitro Convoy only had the one spring loaded part that assisted transformation, so Auto-morphing, if it is in different spots on the body, is a step up from that.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:01 am
by Alex Kingdom
Burn wrote:This "Auto-morphing" seems to be in multiple spots over the body and "transforms" different parts. TF's like Nitro Convoy only had the one spring loaded part that assisted transformation, so Auto-morphing, if it is in different spots on the body, is a step up from that.


So what's new about Automorphing is some figures will have it occurring in more than one place? Still sounds like an old gimmick dressed up as something new to me, just like planet keys being the new mini-cons.

Yours AK

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:14 am
by Burn
Alex Kingdom wrote:
Burn wrote:This "Auto-morphing" seems to be in multiple spots over the body and "transforms" different parts. TF's like Nitro Convoy only had the one spring loaded part that assisted transformation, so Auto-morphing, if it is in different spots on the body, is a step up from that.


So what's new about Automorphing is some figures will have it occurring in more than one place? Still sounds like an old gimmick dressed up as something new to me, just like planet keys being the new mini-cons.

Yours AK


You make it sound like you expected something of Hasbro.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:41 am
by AbsumZer0
It's an interesting design aspect but not something worthy of being a marketing gimmick. Hopefully it doesn't play such a huge part in the transformation process that transforming sans instructions will result in breakage.

I'm thinking that with Hasbro's lax QC we're going to be seeing a lot of griping on these boards come summer. Especially if springs are involved. Remember all the troubles had with Nitro Convoy?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:06 am
by TheMuffin
AbsumZer0 wrote:It's an interesting design aspect but not something worthy of being a marketing gimmick. Hopefully it doesn't play such a huge part in the transformation process that transforming sans instructions will result in breakage.

I'm thinking that with Hasbro's lax QC we're going to be seeing a lot of griping on these boards come summer. Especially if springs are involved. Remember all the troubles had with Nitro Convoy?


Except Hasbro didn't design Nitro Convoy. Takara did.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:08 am
by AbsumZer0
Zuko wrote:
AbsumZer0 wrote:It's an interesting design aspect but not something worthy of being a marketing gimmick. Hopefully it doesn't play such a huge part in the transformation process that transforming sans instructions will result in breakage.

I'm thinking that with Hasbro's lax QC we're going to be seeing a lot of griping on these boards come summer. Especially if springs are involved. Remember all the troubles had with Nitro Convoy?


Except Hasbro didn't design Nitro Convoy. Takara did.


Wasn't the bulk of Galaxy Force done in cooperation between Hasbro and Takara? Either way, regardless of who designed it they use the same manufacturing companies and complex spring-loaded gimmicks = things not always working as they should.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:51 pm
by Ninja Sixshot
maybe i should just leave all of my movie toys misb :-? . jeez is the movie line gonna have lame gimmicks or wat. but u r right, its better than cyberkeys and minicons, etc

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:19 pm
by Tusko
While, unacceptional, if they do add a lot of complexity with rachets, gears and spring-loaded components then A) kit bashing will be harder and B) the life of the toys will be limited.

Jam of snap the internal mechanism and the toys going to be harder to play with. I hope its done really well.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:22 pm
by magus
Tusko wrote:While, unacceptional, if they do add a lot of complexity with rachets, gears and spring-loaded components then A) kit bashing will be harder and B) the life of the toys will be limited.

Jam of snap the internal mechanism and the toys going to be harder to play with. I hope its done really well.


Exactly what I was thinking.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:46 pm
by turbomagnus
Tusko wrote:While, unacceptional, if they do add a lot of complexity with rachets, gears and spring-loaded components then A) kit bashing will be harder


*groans*

Don't remind me....

It's hard enough now that they've got those weird disc-topped screws or whatever it is that they keep using on the heads and joints....

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:49 pm
by Hotrod
I do not know how I kept missing this today :oops: Front paged and credited!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:58 pm
by Seibertron
Alex Kingdom wrote:
Burn wrote:This "Auto-morphing" seems to be in multiple spots over the body and "transforms" different parts. TF's like Nitro Convoy only had the one spring loaded part that assisted transformation, so Auto-morphing, if it is in different spots on the body, is a step up from that.


So what's new about Automorphing is some figures will have it occurring in more than one place? Still sounds like an old gimmick dressed up as something new to me, just like planet keys being the new mini-cons.

Yours AK


Actually, since I'm one of the few people in the world who've actually transformed one of these Transformers with "automorph technology", let me elaborate that it's actually a cool little feature. Yeah, it's essentially the same type of "technology" as the original Beast Wars and Machine Wars basics (what's the fan name for those again? flipformers?). But it's a little different because it's more complex than any prior Transformer toy that shares a similar feature. On Starscream, the whole chest and shoulders mechanism is part of this "automorph technology" which I believe, if I recall correctly (diablien???), happens between the following two photographs that I took of diablien's Starscream prototype:

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:01 pm
by Seibertron
Thanks for sharing these images with us, s250! I really appreciate it.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:09 pm
by Ninja Sixshot
so in simpler words, automorph technology is a complex way of unfolding automatically, right?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:09 pm
by i_amtrunks
whoopie-do.

It's about what I expect from Hasbro, a flashy name for something very un-flashy.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:51 pm
by keeknuts
I like the idea but the name Automorphing sucks. They might as well have called it Automorphing Power Rangers technology. They should just call it somthing else.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:54 pm
by Seibertron
Seriously ... what the heck are you guys complaining for? Stop being such negative Nancies. This is ridiculous! This "new" or "renamed" feature doesn't make the Voyager class Transformer any more or less complex than they normally are. Actually, I had diablien transform the figure for me because I was concerned about causing damage to the figure. I think there were at least 15 steps involved with transforming this figure from robot mode to vehicle mode. The "automorph" feature was actually pretty slick on the figure. I wish you guys would just stop bitching about everything that gets named, created, leaked, displayed, etc. It seems like no matter what Hasbro or Takara does, the fans complain. How disheartening and depressing!