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Postby s250 » Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:21 am

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Postby Alex Kingdom » Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:39 am

Oh wow this really is an innovation in toy technology, you move one part and another moves by a series of leavers and ratchets, wow it so good, so new we need to give it a really cool(lame) name Automorphing! Yay. :roll:

Seriously haven't toys and Transformers been able to do this for ages? all Hasbro have done for the movie line is give it a name! I mean the figures in my sig have 'Automorphing" capabilities for christsake!

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Postby Fender Bender » Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:49 am

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Alex Kingdom wrote:Oh wow this really is an innovation in toy technology, you move one part and another moves by a series of leavers and ratchets, wow it so good, so new we need to give it a really cool(lame) name Automorphing! Yay. :roll:

Seriously haven't toys and Transformers been able to do this for ages? all Hasbro have does for the movie line is give it a name! I mean the figures in my sig have 'Automorphing" capabilities for christsake!

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Okay AK, take a deep breath, and try to calm down. Everything's going to be A-OK. :lol:
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Postby Alex Kingdom » Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:54 am

Fender Bender wrote:Okay AK, take a deep breath, and try to calm down. Everything's going to be A-OK. :lol:


I'm as cool as a cucumber, but admit it I'm right aren't I? :P

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Postby Burn » Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:58 am

So you pull his foot down and his knee opens up for articulation?

Suppose it beats mini-cons and cyber-keys.
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Postby turbomagnus » Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:00 am

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So right that you're off the scale.

I mean, for crying out loud, it was standard issue on Beast Wars-era Basics, you pulled or pushed a tail or head and the figure transformed, nothing new.

Next thing you know Hasbro will be creating Transformers that automatically transform as you move them across a surface and call them, I don't know, 'Battlechargers' sounds nice. Or maybe 'Throttlebots'... No, I've got it, 'Jumpstarters'!

Wait, they've already done THAT too. :-P

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Postby Dough-bot » Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:45 am

OMG
'Automorphing'
Cash'o'morphing more like, so which non movie figures have 'automorphing'
i can think of

E-Ravage
E-Doomlocks
GF-Nitro convoy

any more :???:
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Postby Loki120 » Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:46 am

turbomagnus wrote:So right that you're off the scale.

I mean, for crying out loud, it was standard issue on Beast Wars-era Basics, you pulled or pushed a tail or head and the figure transformed, nothing new.

Next thing you know Hasbro will be creating Transformers that automatically transform as you move them across a surface and call them, I don't know, 'Battlechargers' sounds nice. Or maybe 'Throttlebots'... No, I've got it, 'Jumpstarters'!

Wait, they've already done THAT too. :-P

(I apologize for any broken Sarcasm Meters....)


Well, to be fair, the Throttlebots didn't auto-transform.

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Postby Burn » Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:03 am

This "Auto-morphing" seems to be in multiple spots over the body and "transforms" different parts. TF's like Nitro Convoy only had the one spring loaded part that assisted transformation, so Auto-morphing, if it is in different spots on the body, is a step up from that.
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Postby Alex Kingdom » Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:01 am

Burn wrote:This "Auto-morphing" seems to be in multiple spots over the body and "transforms" different parts. TF's like Nitro Convoy only had the one spring loaded part that assisted transformation, so Auto-morphing, if it is in different spots on the body, is a step up from that.


So what's new about Automorphing is some figures will have it occurring in more than one place? Still sounds like an old gimmick dressed up as something new to me, just like planet keys being the new mini-cons.

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Postby Burn » Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:14 am

Alex Kingdom wrote:
Burn wrote:This "Auto-morphing" seems to be in multiple spots over the body and "transforms" different parts. TF's like Nitro Convoy only had the one spring loaded part that assisted transformation, so Auto-morphing, if it is in different spots on the body, is a step up from that.


So what's new about Automorphing is some figures will have it occurring in more than one place? Still sounds like an old gimmick dressed up as something new to me, just like planet keys being the new mini-cons.

Yours AK


You make it sound like you expected something of Hasbro.
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Postby AbsumZer0 » Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:41 am

It's an interesting design aspect but not something worthy of being a marketing gimmick. Hopefully it doesn't play such a huge part in the transformation process that transforming sans instructions will result in breakage.

I'm thinking that with Hasbro's lax QC we're going to be seeing a lot of griping on these boards come summer. Especially if springs are involved. Remember all the troubles had with Nitro Convoy?
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Postby TheMuffin » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:06 am

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AbsumZer0 wrote:It's an interesting design aspect but not something worthy of being a marketing gimmick. Hopefully it doesn't play such a huge part in the transformation process that transforming sans instructions will result in breakage.

I'm thinking that with Hasbro's lax QC we're going to be seeing a lot of griping on these boards come summer. Especially if springs are involved. Remember all the troubles had with Nitro Convoy?


Except Hasbro didn't design Nitro Convoy. Takara did.
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Postby AbsumZer0 » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:08 am

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AbsumZer0 wrote:It's an interesting design aspect but not something worthy of being a marketing gimmick. Hopefully it doesn't play such a huge part in the transformation process that transforming sans instructions will result in breakage.

I'm thinking that with Hasbro's lax QC we're going to be seeing a lot of griping on these boards come summer. Especially if springs are involved. Remember all the troubles had with Nitro Convoy?


Except Hasbro didn't design Nitro Convoy. Takara did.


Wasn't the bulk of Galaxy Force done in cooperation between Hasbro and Takara? Either way, regardless of who designed it they use the same manufacturing companies and complex spring-loaded gimmicks = things not always working as they should.
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Postby Ninja Sixshot » Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:51 pm

maybe i should just leave all of my movie toys misb :-? . jeez is the movie line gonna have lame gimmicks or wat. but u r right, its better than cyberkeys and minicons, etc
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Postby Tusko » Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:19 pm

While, unacceptional, if they do add a lot of complexity with rachets, gears and spring-loaded components then A) kit bashing will be harder and B) the life of the toys will be limited.

Jam of snap the internal mechanism and the toys going to be harder to play with. I hope its done really well.
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Postby magus » Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:22 pm

Tusko wrote:While, unacceptional, if they do add a lot of complexity with rachets, gears and spring-loaded components then A) kit bashing will be harder and B) the life of the toys will be limited.

Jam of snap the internal mechanism and the toys going to be harder to play with. I hope its done really well.


Exactly what I was thinking.
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Postby turbomagnus » Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:46 pm

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Tusko wrote:While, unacceptional, if they do add a lot of complexity with rachets, gears and spring-loaded components then A) kit bashing will be harder


*groans*

Don't remind me....

It's hard enough now that they've got those weird disc-topped screws or whatever it is that they keep using on the heads and joints....
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Postby Hotrod » Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:49 pm

I do not know how I kept missing this today :oops: Front paged and credited!
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Postby Seibertron » Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:58 pm

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Burn wrote:This "Auto-morphing" seems to be in multiple spots over the body and "transforms" different parts. TF's like Nitro Convoy only had the one spring loaded part that assisted transformation, so Auto-morphing, if it is in different spots on the body, is a step up from that.


So what's new about Automorphing is some figures will have it occurring in more than one place? Still sounds like an old gimmick dressed up as something new to me, just like planet keys being the new mini-cons.

Yours AK


Actually, since I'm one of the few people in the world who've actually transformed one of these Transformers with "automorph technology", let me elaborate that it's actually a cool little feature. Yeah, it's essentially the same type of "technology" as the original Beast Wars and Machine Wars basics (what's the fan name for those again? flipformers?). But it's a little different because it's more complex than any prior Transformer toy that shares a similar feature. On Starscream, the whole chest and shoulders mechanism is part of this "automorph technology" which I believe, if I recall correctly (diablien???), happens between the following two photographs that I took of diablien's Starscream prototype:

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Postby Seibertron » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:01 pm

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Thanks for sharing these images with us, s250! I really appreciate it.
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Postby Ninja Sixshot » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:09 pm

so in simpler words, automorph technology is a complex way of unfolding automatically, right?
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Postby i_amtrunks » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:09 pm

whoopie-do.

It's about what I expect from Hasbro, a flashy name for something very un-flashy.
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Postby keeknuts » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:51 pm

I like the idea but the name Automorphing sucks. They might as well have called it Automorphing Power Rangers technology. They should just call it somthing else.
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Postby Seibertron » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:54 pm

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Seriously ... what the heck are you guys complaining for? Stop being such negative Nancies. This is ridiculous! This "new" or "renamed" feature doesn't make the Voyager class Transformer any more or less complex than they normally are. Actually, I had diablien transform the figure for me because I was concerned about causing damage to the figure. I think there were at least 15 steps involved with transforming this figure from robot mode to vehicle mode. The "automorph" feature was actually pretty slick on the figure. I wish you guys would just stop bitching about everything that gets named, created, leaked, displayed, etc. It seems like no matter what Hasbro or Takara does, the fans complain. How disheartening and depressing!
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