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Smelting Pool League - Game Mechanics and Small Print

Postby Psychout » Fri May 15, 2009 9:50 am

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Please read this carefully, I know its long but it should cover all eventualities.

This will take part outside of the normal HMW game and be a self contained tourney that anyone can join.
To enter you must select one of your team members, which will be adjusted to exactly 15 million XP by the staff, which is to be used to build into any level 6 configuration of between 50 - 58 upgrades.
The level has to be 6, this is non-negotiable.

You will then send your warrior into the area to fight it out against other league players and post your results in the game thread, which will be sorted out into a league table.


The Rules:

Overview
  • Anybody, of any level, can sign up a character.
  • You will edited to 15,000,000 by the staff
  • You will create a level 6 configuration of between 50-58 upgrades.
  • You will post your own results
  • Each league will run for approx 25 days and will be maintained by The Staff.


Signing up and character generation
    A thread will be created in HMW General Discussion for signups and will contain a fixed deadline. To enter, you must:
  • Decide which character you want to use in the League
  • Choose your config using the XP Calculator or any other tools available
  • Register publicly in the sign up thread.
  • PM your config to the The Huntmasters account, before a set deadline, to be eligible to enter and this config cannot be changed once submitted.
  • Allow you config to be published at the start of the game, and it will be up to the other players to ensure fair play.
If this is done before the deadline has passed, your character will be edited and you will be able to assign your XP and prepare for the season.



League & Scoring
  • You will fight in the arena only and may enter as many fights as you wish, and as often as you wish.
  • Results will be posted by participants, and must follow this pre-determined structure:
    [Fight link], [winning commanders name], [losing commanders name], [score]
    Failure to format results correctly will result in them not being counted.
    (You may add as much detail/smacktalk about the fight as you wish as long as the result itself is obvious and is formatted correctly.)
  • For each fight you will score:
    3pts - For a 'Shutout' (Your opponent scores 0xp)
    2pts - For a standard 'Win'
    1pt - (Each) If the match ends in a 'Timeout' (a 'Draw') regardless of the actual published result.
    0pts - For a 'Defeat'
  • Your 'league' score will be your total score divided by your total number recorded matches and will be published to 2 decimal places. Ties will be resolved by highest number of wins.
  • The league will be updated periodically by the staff.



The Small Print
It is vital that you read this section carefully.
  • You can only enter this tournament by signing up and agreeing to the rules in advance.
  • You may only sign up one of your characters for this league, ever.
  • All configurations must be registered with The Huntmasters account prior to the tournaments start date and once submitted cannot be altered.
  • Once you have registered, you agree that you will not reset, for any reason, whilst a season is running.
  • You are permitted to spend accrued XP on upgrades during a season at your discretion, however you are not permitted to exceed 58 ("+1 to level 7") upgrades. If you do exceed 58 upgrades and move to level 7 you will be disqualified for that season and risk be expelled from the league.
  • There will be a minimum 24 hour downtime between each league when resetting is permitted, but you will need to re-registered with The Huntmasters again before being allowed to re-compete.
  • As there are no L6 missions in the core HMW game you will no longer be able to enter missions with that character.
  • If you are caught levelling down to enter missions or resetting during a league season, you will be penalised at the discretion of the staff through penalties which may include, but are not limited to, expulsion from the current and all subsequent leagues played, or removal of ALL XP on that character back to 0xp.
  • Please note these limitations only affects the character used in this league and NOT the rest of your team, which can be played as normal throughout this tournament

Adjudication
  • All disputes will be handled by the staff fairly and without bias.
  • The staff's decision on all matters is to be considered final and any appeals are to be made via Private mail only, submission of an appeal if not a guarantee that it will be upheld.
  • Submission of a config to The Huntmasters is regarded as acceptance of the above rules, without exception.


Special note: Energon
Energon is your problem.
The staff will not be helping you if you have an energon crisis, but we have devised a few notes that you should take into account when choosing your config and game tactics:
  • CR costs are greater at level 6 and so repairing after every match may not be a good idea.
  • Armour and Weapon cost rise steeply at the higher levels, be careful not to get caught out.
  • Members of your faction may be willing to help, but you must organise the backing yourself.

Sponsorship
You may, if you wish, enter as a team of commanders to fund a single bot in the league. To register as a team, you must announce this when the fighting commander submits their configs to The Huntmasters. If you chose to do this, any future rewards given will be divided amongst the sponsors as well as the fighter itself.
Teams may form during a season however they must register to be allowed to join in and so can only enter the league itself at the start of a season.
Disqualified and expelled commanders are banned from taking any (public) part in any sponsoring teams.

Retirement
This is arranged privately with the staff.
Should a commander be unable to compete due to lack of energon and is unable to find a backer and wishes to return to the normal HMW game, by special request your character can be returned to the XP amount it had before the games began and will not be allowed to keep any earned XP from the tournament.
Should you choose or be forced to retire you will not be allowed to compete in the leagues again, however you will be permitted to take a sponsors position should one arise.


These rules are subject to minor changes, and the correction of any errors or omissions to these rules will be published in the game threads, so please be sure that you follow them carefully.


F.A.Q.'s
Does it have to be a Level 6 +9 to Level 7 config? or Level 6 +4 to Level 7 config? etc...

I ask since 15 mil can make a level 8.
The config can be any number of upgradfes within level 6

what about the alt selection? will have to make do with the alts we have, i'm assuming?
There are no alt restrictions, If the alt is avaialble then you may use it, but we will not be adding any more for this tournament.

Will armor be allowed to be installed? if so, will we also need to report that to the Huntmasters along with our stats?
You may use any armour, weapons and alts you can get your hands on and all The Huntmasters will need from you is the list of stats you will be using and your chosen character link.

Do we get to keep any XP we earn after the Tourny not including the 15,000,000 XP?
No. The XP will not be removed again as the leagues will run continually until the endgame begins, the only exception to this will be retirement as listed above.

I believe it was said, in the first post with the rules, that there would be more than 1 season, correct? And that you have to re-sign up for each season?...Are we allowed to enter multiple bots throughout the league
No. You can only nominate 1 character from your team to join in this tournament, ever.




Ive re-read over this so many times now the words don't mean anything anymore.
Have I missed anything obvious?
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Re: 15 Million L6 Challenge - Final rules draft:

Postby Evolution Prime » Fri May 15, 2009 11:22 am

Motto: "Your end shall justify my means."
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So you are saying that the clans-that-shall-remain-nameless can enter a team of fighters into this shindig?

*EDIT* Nevermind. I read that part wrong.
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Re: 15 Million L6 Challenge - Final rules draft:

Postby Editor » Fri May 15, 2009 11:58 am

Motto: ""I'm not even supposed to be here today!""
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will there be a grace period between upgrade and the start of battles for Armor install or is it go time as soon as the xp is increased?
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Re: 15 Million L6 Challenge - Final rules draft:

Postby Psychout » Fri May 15, 2009 1:05 pm

Motto: "The Blackest Night Falls from the skies,
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Weapon: Sniper Rifle
Evolution Prime wrote:So you are saying that the clans-that-shall-remain-nameless can enter a team of fighters into this shindig?

*EDIT* Nevermind. I read that part wrong.

Nameless my ass :lol:

The RDD and AWC are welcome to join in however they want (check your website) but I figure there will be more than 1 entrant from each of the clans and with tactical play energon shouldnt be a problem regardless of backing.

Editor wrote:will there be a grace period between upgrade and the start of battles for Armor install or is it go time as soon as the xp is increased?
I should think so, a day should be enough.
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Re: 15 Million L6 Challenge - Final rules draft:

Postby Chaoslock » Fri May 15, 2009 1:27 pm

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When will this start?
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Re: 15 Million L6 Challenge - Final rules draft:

Postby Psychout » Fri May 15, 2009 1:37 pm

Motto: "The Blackest Night Falls from the skies,
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Weapon: Sniper Rifle
Hmm...

Sign up thread goes up the next 12 hours, 3-4 days to sign up, then a day up get yourselves config'd, so Wednesday next week?
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Re: 15 Million L6 Challenge - Final rules draft:

Postby Raphael Prime » Fri May 15, 2009 4:07 pm

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Question about the sponsorship. Is a person allowed to sponsor more than one person/team?
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Re: 15 Million L6 Challenge - Final rules draft:

Postby Psychout » Fri May 15, 2009 6:15 pm

Motto: "The Blackest Night Falls from the skies,
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Weapon: Sniper Rifle
Raphael Prime wrote:Question about the sponsorship. Is a person allowed to sponsor more than one person/team?
If you have the enegon, sure.
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Re: Smelting Pool League - Game Mechanics and Small Print

Postby Zordon » Sat May 16, 2009 6:23 am

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Psychout wrote:Special note: Energon
Energon is your problem.
The staff will not be helping you if you have an energon crisis,


i would love to have Energon as my problem, but can i at least have my 150K that im still owed (less the 20k for my bounty)?? :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Re: Smelting Pool League - Game Mechanics and Small Print

Postby vaporretarder » Sat May 16, 2009 6:42 am

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Zordon wrote:
Psychout wrote:Special note: Energon
Energon is your problem.
The staff will not be helping you if you have an energon crisis,


i would love to have Energon as my problem, but can i at least have my 150K that im still owed (less the 20k for my bounty)?? :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:


yeah, I'm gonna have to probably get donations from bots in my faction for this, cause i still haven't received my energon from the beast vs G1 tourney a while back :-/ from here http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=51263

oh well, I'm sure someone in my faction will be able to help out :-)
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Re: Smelting Pool League - Game Mechanics and Small Print

Postby Burn » Sat May 16, 2009 7:04 am

I'm sure Psychout's mentioned it before, but OS is still the only one who can manipulate Energon (hence why we can't give "loans" for this contest), and well, OS is a little busy. Hence why we suggested sponsorship or donations, 'cause you know, we actually did try to cover all problems before finalising details. :P
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Re: Smelting Pool League - Game Mechanics and Small Print

Postby Zordon » Sat May 16, 2009 8:00 am

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vaporretarder wrote:
oh well, I'm sure someone in my faction will be able to help out :-)


zordon gives all his other maximals a BIG GRIN :grin: and a wink :wink: hoping they will also help out :)
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Re: Smelting Pool League - Game Mechanics and Small Print

Postby vaporretarder » Sat May 16, 2009 2:43 pm

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Burn wrote:I'm sure Psychout's mentioned it before, but OS is still the only one who can manipulate Energon (hence why we can't give "loans" for this contest), and well, OS is a little busy. Hence why we suggested sponsorship or donations, 'cause you know, we actually did try to cover all problems before finalising details. :P



eh, not a problem at all, I'm gonna give this my best shot, and if I fail, then I fail, .....every war has to have cannon fodder :-) I'm just gonna have to hope I'M the one firing the cannon ;-) ....instead of,...well,...the alternative :-P haha
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Re: Smelting Pool League - Game Mechanics and Small Print

Postby Raphael Prime » Sat May 16, 2009 3:35 pm

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Zordon wrote:
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oh well, I'm sure someone in my faction will be able to help out :-)


zordon gives all his other maximals a BIG GRIN :grin: and a wink :wink: hoping they will also help out :)




Post that you could use some in Kaiju's thread in our forums too if ya need some. I'd help ya out, but i got only about 120k from selling excess weapons, and i think that might just squeak me by with what i have planned, and even then i'll have to make a sacrifice i'm sure.
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Re: Smelting Pool League - Game Mechanics and Small Print

Postby Zordon » Sat May 16, 2009 4:50 pm

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Raphael Prime wrote:
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vaporretarder wrote:
oh well, I'm sure someone in my faction will be able to help out :-)


zordon gives all his other maximals a BIG GRIN :grin: and a wink :wink: hoping they will also help out :)




Post that you could use some in Kaiju's thread in our forums too if ya need some. I'd help ya out, but i got only about 120k from selling excess weapons, and i think that might just squeak me by with what i have planned, and even then i'll have to make a sacrifice i'm sure.


thanks for the offer raph but only want cash off peeps with 100k + in the bank, iv seen kiaju post, im thinking im going to take every one else in my team back to level 1 or low leve 2 high avoiders/speed set on manual CR for a week the amount i play i will soon have some cash :)
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Re: Smelting Pool League - Game Mechanics and Small Print

Postby Evolution Prime » Mon May 18, 2009 9:37 am

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I'm not sure if you guys covered this or not, but since I didn't see it anywhere, I'll bring it up. Minimum number of matches for this? I believer there should be some minimum number of participation to actually count in the standings. What is stopping someone from enerting one match and getting a shut out. He gets 3 points and then stops playing. That gives him a league score of 3.00 with only one match on his belt. Since it is only possible to score a high of 3.00 and the unlikelyhood of the serious player getting a shutout everytime out, he would end up in 1st and taking the title with only one match. I think there should be some minimum number of matches participated (something small like 5-10) to qualify in the standings to be eligible for the title.
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Re: Smelting Pool League - Game Mechanics and Small Print

Postby Chaoslock » Mon May 18, 2009 9:47 am

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Evolution Prime wrote:I'm not sure if you guys covered this or not, but since I didn't see it anywhere, I'll bring it up. Minimum number of matches for this? I believer there should be some minimum number of participation to actually count in the standings. What is stopping someone from enerting one match and getting a shut out. He gets 3 points and then stops playing. That gives him a league score of 3.00 with only one match on his belt. Since it is only possible to score a high of 3.00 and the unlikelyhood of the serious player getting a shutout everytime out, he would end up in 1st and taking the title with only one match. I think there should be some minimum number of matches participated (something small like 5-10) to qualify in the standings to be eligible for the title.


As I understood the scoring, the points is then divided by all the arena matches counted. So, if you make one match with win, that's 3 point, but you then have to divide it by the total number of everyones arena match.
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Re: Smelting Pool League - Game Mechanics and Small Print

Postby Psychout » Mon May 18, 2009 9:55 am

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Ahhh, no I've already got this one covered, but granted its not in rules yet.

There will have to be a certain number of completed battles before Ill actually add a players score to the league positions, someone who wins 1 battle and then decides to try and retire as champion is in for a nasty shock. :lol:
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Re: Smelting Pool League - Game Mechanics and Small Print

Postby Evolution Prime » Mon May 18, 2009 10:04 am

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Chaoslock wrote:
Evolution Prime wrote:I'm not sure if you guys covered this or not, but since I didn't see it anywhere, I'll bring it up. Minimum number of matches for this? I believer there should be some minimum number of participation to actually count in the standings. What is stopping someone from enerting one match and getting a shut out. He gets 3 points and then stops playing. That gives him a league score of 3.00 with only one match on his belt. Since it is only possible to score a high of 3.00 and the unlikelyhood of the serious player getting a shutout everytime out, he would end up in 1st and taking the title with only one match. I think there should be some minimum number of matches participated (something small like 5-10) to qualify in the standings to be eligible for the title.


As I understood the scoring, the points is then divided by all the arena matches counted. So, if you make one match with win, that's 3 point, but you then have to divide it by the total number of everyones arena match.


This what I read:

League and Scoring wrote:Your 'league' score will be your total score divided by your total number recorded matches and will be published to 2 decimal places. Ties will be resolved by highest number of wins.


I didn't see anywhere where it said than what you stated. I'm not saying that it isn't. Just stating that I didn't see it. If it is, can you point me to it?
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Re: Smelting Pool League - Game Mechanics and Small Print

Postby Chaoslock » Mon May 18, 2009 10:07 am

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Chaoslock wrote:
Evolution Prime wrote:I'm not sure if you guys covered this or not, but since I didn't see it anywhere, I'll bring it up. Minimum number of matches for this? I believer there should be some minimum number of participation to actually count in the standings. What is stopping someone from enerting one match and getting a shut out. He gets 3 points and then stops playing. That gives him a league score of 3.00 with only one match on his belt. Since it is only possible to score a high of 3.00 and the unlikelyhood of the serious player getting a shutout everytime out, he would end up in 1st and taking the title with only one match. I think there should be some minimum number of matches participated (something small like 5-10) to qualify in the standings to be eligible for the title.


As I understood the scoring, the points is then divided by all the arena matches counted. So, if you make one match with win, that's 3 point, but you then have to divide it by the total number of everyones arena match.


This what I read:

League and Scoring wrote:Your 'league' score will be your total score divided by your total number recorded matches and will be published to 2 decimal places. Ties will be resolved by highest number of wins.


I didn't see anywhere where it said than what you stated. I'm not saying that it isn't. Just stating that I didn't see it. If it is, can you point me to it?


It looks like I've misread the rules then... interesting.
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Re: Smelting Pool League - Game Mechanics and Small Print

Postby Evolution Prime » Mon May 18, 2009 10:08 am

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Psychout wrote:Ahhh, no I've already got this one covered, but granted its not in rules yet.

There will have to be a certain number of completed battles before Ill actually add a players score to the league positions, someone who wins 1 battle and then decides to try and retire as champion is in for a nasty shock. :lol:


Just as long as you had it covered. Probably should be stated though because you know someone it going to bitch and moan about it if it isn't up front in the rules if they try it.
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Re: Smelting Pool League - Game Mechanics and Small Print

Postby Psychout » Mon May 18, 2009 10:54 am

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Didnt want to add much more in, the rules are 12 foot long as it is. :lol:
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Re: Smelting Pool League - Game Mechanics and Small Print

Postby Psychout » Sat May 23, 2009 4:06 am

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Also posted here


Clarification announcement
Recording losses

Im sorry for the confusion here guys, this is as much a learning experience for Burn and I as if is fun for you lot. Weve never done anything like this and to the scoring wil eb a bit hit-and-miss til we can refine something.


After a bit of thought and experimentation, and although it may be a bit late, im going to have to ask all of you to record your loses as well.

I appreciate some of you have not bothered so far (who wants to record a loss eh?) but it be able to score this fairly thats the way its gonna have to be to be able to do this fairly. Remember - We will be able to tell how many losses you have had from everyone elses results against you so no cheating and leaving them off! :lol:


Those of you who cannot get the logs anymore, please list the loss as an unknown battle (or the winning commaders name if you remeber it) and we will chack the amounts against you opponenets wins over you.


Sorry again for the confusion.
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Re: Smelting Pool League - Game Mechanics and Small Print

Postby Naked Magnus » Sun May 24, 2009 10:58 am

How often are we supposed to report our scorecard in the "The Smelting Pool league entry and scorecard" forum? Daily? Weekly? At the end of the season? I am keeping accurate records, but my bot has been in so many battles I don't want to flood that forum with a bunch of noise.

When exactly is the end of the season?

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Re: Smelting Pool League - Game Mechanics and Small Print

Postby Editor » Sun May 24, 2009 12:44 pm

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Really you should keep your post in the scoring thread as up to date as you can, just for the sake of other players and the judges if they decide to do any checking.

As far as I am aware the season has no set end date, as that is dependant on the release of V2.

Don't worry about flooding with your results, as you should only be editing your existing post. the only way to flood that thread is if you make a needless post there.
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