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So what's the deal with Prime toys?

Postby tfgreg » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:58 pm

So TF Prime is an awesome series with really well-designed bots which has led to the creation of some truly awesome figs. Hasbro came out with the 'first edition' TF Prime figures but they were only released in a limited number and only a few stores, and are VERY hard to find.

If you can actually get your hands on one, the first edition figures are amazing in terms of articulation, show-accuracy, and transformations. Deluxe starscream is my favorite TF figure that I've gotten in years. So the bottom line is that first edition figures are very well-done, better than we've seen in years, BUT they are incredible scarce.

Now this leads us to the RID TF Prime figures and the ones that were just released to the masses over in the UK. From everything that I've seen online, these RID figures appear to be the main line for TF Prime moving forward and will be available to the mass market everywhere soon. The problem is, these figures are a BIG step down from the first edition TF Prime figures. Look at Powerizer Optimus Prime vs first edition Optimus Prime. Look at RID Bumblebee vs first edition Bumblebee. Cliffjumper is the same. In all cases, the first edition model is much, much better designed and made.

Here's the problem as I see it:

Hasbro is still in the middle of putting out the first edition Prime toys, so far they only released the deluxes (Starscream, Bumblebee, arcee), and are scheduled to release the voyagers, and Cliffjumper at some point this month (although this window looks to not be happening). So Prime 'first edition' figures are still being released. BUT, the RID models are just starting to pop up everywhere too (in the UK). So there are two consecutive launches right now, RID and first edition.

My question is, what will happen to the first edition figures? Have they been scrapped and replaced with the inferior RID figs? I've had voyager Prime and Bulkhead preordered for a while now with no updates on when they will start arriving stateside and I'm beginning to worry that we won't get them at all.

Sorry for the wordy post, but Hasbro has been very confusing with the TF Prime lines and I think we need some clarity.
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Re: So what's the deal with Prime toys?

Postby WolfDawg » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:14 pm

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Personally, I don't think the U.S. is even going to get the FE Voyagers, Cliffjumper, and Vehicon. I say this especially due to the fact that there's a rumor that RID Prime toys (Soundwave, Cliffjumper, etc.) have been released in California. If that happens to be true, then I highly doubt Hasbro would bother to give us the FE figures. Just wouldn't been a good business move...
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Re: So what's the deal with Prime toys?

Postby LOST Cybertronian » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:19 pm

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I wouldn't be surprised if the FE figures go the route of Marshalls, TJ Maxx or Ross sometime in the future.
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Re: So what's the deal with Prime toys?

Postby DISCHARGE » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:24 pm

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They should just sell these on the HTS website and stop all the stupid distribution games. It would probably save them millions, at least
high thousands, in logistics.

The FE is for collectors, that's why TRU was the only retail outlet. But when there's only one retail outlet and they still can't do things right then obviously there is a real problem with Hasbro's management.
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Re: So what's the deal with Prime toys?

Postby El Duque » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:29 pm

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DISCHARGE wrote:They should just sell these on the HTS website and stop all the stupid distribution games. It would probably save them millions, at least
high thousands, in logistics.


This makes far too much sense to actually happen. >:oP
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Re: So what's the deal with Prime toys?

Postby tfgreg » Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:09 pm

So if what you all are saying is true and they won't actually release the FE voyagers in the US, what will happen to everyone who preordered the items at various websites?

If I wanted to get my hands on the FE voyagers, where would be the best place to look?
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Re: So what's the deal with Prime toys?

Postby WolfDawg » Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:23 pm

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tfgreg wrote:So if what you all are saying is true and they won't actually release the FE voyagers in the US, what will happen to everyone who preordered the items at various websites?

If I wanted to get my hands on the FE voyagers, where would be the best place to look?


I don't think anyone's 100% positive concerning the fate of the FE figures. Personally, like I said earlier, I don't think the U.S. will receive them at all. At most, as a previous poster said, we MIGHT see them at places like Marshalls and ROSS. I'm not counting on that, though. After I heard that the UK got the RID figures, I pretty much scoured eBay for the cheapest deals on Voyager Prime and Bulkhead as well as FE Cliffjumper. Once the possible reality sets in that the U.S. may very well not be getting the FE figures sets in, the prices on these guys will sky rocket. I'd rather pay 40 bucks for a FE Voyager and 20 for Cliffjumper now than to sit on my hands hoping they hit retail and end up having to pay 70-80 bucks for a voyager and who knows how much for FE Cliff.
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Re: So what's the deal with Prime toys?

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:26 pm

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This whole thing is absurd, I've already decided to boycott the Prime line unless they release the FE figures beyond Bumblebee, Starscream, and Arcee. Here we are practically begging them to take our money and they still manage to screw that up by showing us good figures and then not releasing them.
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Re: So what's the deal with Prime toys?

Postby Autobot032 » Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:37 pm

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WolfDawg wrote:I say this especially due to the fact that there's a rumor that RID Prime toys (Soundwave, Cliffjumper, etc.) have been released in California.


I saw that, earlier. The guy's feedback is 100%, he's a trusted seller, he stated where he found them (TRU) and it's clearly US packaging with The Hub sticker intact.

He might've gotten lucky and got them early, or they might be trickling out now, who knows?

An employee at Target, over at TFW, said he ran the Voyager DPCI and it shows up as active and available for sale in the planogram for the week of February 26th.

It's entirely possible that the eBay guy's legit when he says TRU.
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Re: So what's the deal with Prime toys?

Postby Nemesis Destron » Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:58 pm

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It would be halarious if the same sh*t would happen like the last wave of generation figs. All of a sudden we will see a flood of FE figs even after the release of RID figs. Why the hell not? Remember all of a sudden after a period Thundercracker, Wheeljack, Scourge, and Warpath could be spotted at almost every store? I'm just sayin' who's to say that won't happen again! :VEHI:
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