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Sooo....was it the Allspark, or the Space Bridge?

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Re: Sooo....was it the Allspark, or the Space Bridge?

Postby shamone » Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:17 pm

Lastjustice wrote:
whats the difference between using the matrix and activating it ?



The Primes didn't just use their bodies to seal the matrix of leadership, they put their very essense into it as the ultimate security. No one could use the matrix till it was earned. Once someone kept it and shown worthy it would reform. Which was what the Fallen was waiting for to happen. (since he likely had enough knowledge to know he wasn't going ever get his brother's approval on his own.)

When Sam has his near death experience he has the allspark in his head, and so the two artifacts are comunicating with each other. He proven worthy of a leader as he was willing to die for Optimus as he was for him. The knowledge of the all spark was then removed from Sam's head and into the matrix...which in turn was given to Optimus Prime when Sam used it to revive him. Which in the Prime's crazy vision was his destiny..(or that's what they tell all the people who have visions of them hehe.)

Once the Matrix was activated , the Fallen could then steal it. Given Optimus was there to reclaim it the Primes likely let his actions stand. Which we see Optimus with the Matrix in DotM.


well im sorry but thst jsut speculation

its a pretty shit defence system, if its found by someone worthy, then anyone can use it
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Re: Sooo....was it the Allspark, or the Space Bridge?

Postby Shadowman » Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:48 pm

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shamone wrote:well im sorry but thst jsut speculation


Are you even reading this thread? The whole point is to use speculation to fill in the gaps.
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Re: Sooo....was it the Allspark, or the Space Bridge?

Postby Covenant » Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:18 pm

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shamone wrote:its a pretty shit defence system, if its found by someone worthy, then anyone can use it

Call it shit, it worked out. And don't forget, The Fallen is one of the original Primes. We have absolutely no idea to his amount of insight, power, affinity or involvement with the Matrix. That is to say, by all assumptions it would be unlikely that if Megatron or Starscream had grabbed the Matrix after it reassembled that they could use it in any way whatsoever.


shamone wrote:well im sorry but thst jsut speculation

Entire point. This thread. Check. ;)
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Re: Sooo....was it the Allspark, or the Space Bridge?

Postby Lastjustice » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:08 am

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shamone wrote:well im sorry but thst jsut speculation


Are you even reading this thread? The whole point is to use speculation to fill in the gaps.


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Re: Sooo....was it the Allspark, or the Space Bridge?

Postby shamone » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:58 am

Lastjustice wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
shamone wrote:well im sorry but thst jsut speculation


Are you even reading this thread? The whole point is to use speculation to fill in the gaps.


Shamone loves being difficult when it comes to these films, I'm used to it.


im just saying that its not fact speculation so it may be true it may not be.

no need for the attitude
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Re: Sooo....was it the Allspark, or the Space Bridge?

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Re: Sooo....was it the Allspark, or the Space Bridge?

Postby Covenant » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:35 pm

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shamone wrote:im just saying that its not fact speculation so it may be true it may not be.

I don't think that was ever in question though.
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Re: Sooo....was it the Allspark, or the Space Bridge?

Postby Shadowman » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:51 pm

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shamone wrote:
Lastjustice wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
shamone wrote:well im sorry but thst jsut speculation


Are you even reading this thread? The whole point is to use speculation to fill in the gaps.


Shamone loves being difficult when it comes to these films, I'm used to it.


im just saying that its not fact speculation so it may be true it may not be.

no need for the attitude


I'm starting to think you're doing this on purpose. We know it's speculation. We know it's not necessarily true. We're just using it to fill in whatever gaps were in the official story.
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Re: Sooo....was it the Allspark, or the Space Bridge?

Postby Lastjustice » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:57 pm

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shamone wrote:im just saying that its not fact speculation so it may be true it may not be.

I don't think that was ever in question though.


I love the shortpacked. Hopefully for next trilogy they have more plans that are a bit less convoluted.
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