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Now, please don't take this as an attack. Out of the three flicks, I really liked this one save a few things (most of them concerning poor mis-used Megatron, an issue continued from RotF).

My question is, in the original film, and expanded upon in the prequal comics, Megatron ended up on Earth chasing the Allspark after it was shot into space. In DotM, we're told Sentinel and Megatron made a deal to meet on Earth and enslave the species. Add the fact you have the RotF 'plotline' where Primes came to Earth hundreds or thousands of years ago to build a sun-sucking-destroying device they decided not to use, and I'm confused.

I've not been much into the novels and comic books since mid-way through the first film years back, so I'm not sure if this confuzzle of 'on Earth because' plots is explained.

Megatron and Sentinel where supposed to meet on Earth because of the Allspark.

Unfortunately I don't think the writers really gave a flip about what happened in the first two movies. The AllSpark wasn't even mentioned throughout the entire movie.
I think they just decided to go their own way.
One can assume that Sentinel and Megatron chose the moon because the All-Spark was close by, but there isn't actually conclusive evidence.

I think Megatron's plan was to use Earth's resources and people to rebuild Cybertron. Then when that was done use the Harvester to destroy the sun for energon. Since Sentinel was out of commission he went straight to phase 2. After that failed and he found a way to revive Sentinel he went back to his phase 1 plan.

My thoughts were the deal struck with Sentinel was the first of many plans Megatron had. Sentinel got shot down, and wasn't heard from again while Megatron was active.(he was frozen during the 60s so he had no chance to know that Sentinel's ship actually made it till he unthawed and had soem down time to access his resources between ROTF and DOTM.) So chances are that plan got pushed to the back burner till after all other plans with the Allspark and the Fallen went bust. Megatron probably was looking for a way use the space bridge technology, why he had the Decepticons capture the pillars, but nothing came thru till he rsaw Optimus could revive Sentinel with the Matrix of Leadership. Seeing the potential for this plan to be revisited he put it into motion.

Megatron likely did plan meet Sentinel but nothing either of them had envisioned went according to plan.Sentinel was shot down(only Megatron knew about the plan. Starscream ahd no clue till Megatron told him at the Lincoln memorial.), The Allspark was launched into space, and he was frozen.

So i dont take it as this film contradicts the others really. Other than Why heck 200 plus decepticons waited till now to attack earth when there was two major battles. I'd liked it better if the army that showed up was at some remote location in space awaiting orders that was space bridged in rather than just chilling on the moon. There's some minor conflicts in the story, but if you just take each movie as stand alone episode like G1 , then it's cool by itself.(like why didn't Jetfire or any of the seekers recover the Allspark if they were on Earth before the Hoover Dam was built.)

Lastjustice wrote:My thoughts were the deal struck with Sentinel was the first of many plans Megatron had. Sentinel got shot down, and wasn't heard from again while Megatron was active.(he was frozen during the 60s so he had no chance to know that Sentinel's ship actually made it till he unthawed and had soem down time to access his resources between ROTF and DOTM.) So chances are that plan got pushed to the back burner till after all other plans with the Allspark and the Fallen went bust. Megatron probably was looking for a way use the space bridge technology, why he had the Decepticons capture the pillars, but nothing came thru till he rsaw Optimus could revive Sentinel with the Matrix of Leadership. Seeing the potential for this plan to be revisited he put it into motion.

Megatron likely did plan meet Sentinel but nothing either of them had envisioned went according to plan.Sentinel was shot down(only Megatron knew about the plan. Starscream ahd no clue till Megatron told him at the Lincoln memorial.), The Allspark was launched into space, and he was frozen.

I disagree. We know that Megatron left Cybertron first because he crash landed on Earth before Sentinel Prime arrived. We also know that Megatron left to find the Allspark, so the Allspark was launched into space before either of them left Cybertron.

The sequence of events, as I see it, is this:

1. The Allspark, for some reason, is shot into space.
2. Sentinel Prime makes a secret deal with Megatron. They agree to rendezvous on whatever planet the Allspark lands on, and use the space bridge to bring Cybertron to the Allspark.
3. Megatron leaves to look for the Allspark. He tracks it to Earth, but his navigation system malfunctions and he crash lands in the south pole. The ice paralyzes him for centuries.
4. Sentinel departs Cybertron to look for Megatron. The Decepticons don't realize he is working with Megatron, and they shoot at his ship as it leaves. The Autobots believe the ship has been destroyed. In actuality, it is merely damaged and Sentinel manages to track Megatron to the Earth. He accidentally crash lands on the moon and is knocked into stasis.
5. With a ship of his own, Soundwave follows Sentinel to the moon. I can only assume that he is in on Megatron and Sentinel's plan, as he extracts the pillars from the Ark and buries them on the moon. His actions are photographed by the Russians.
6. Soundwave, Laserbeak, and a small group of other Decepticons infiltrate Earth society and convince a number of humans to collaborate with them.
7. Soundwave contacts the Fallen and informs him that the Allspark is on Earth. The Fallen leaves Cybertron with a contingent of Decepticons; they crash land on a moon of Saturn. Decepticons begin traveling to Earth and slowly begin gathering information and plotting their next move.
8. A group of Autobots, led by Optimus Prime, follow the Decepticons to Earth. For some reason, they don't need a ship.
9. Megatron and the Allspark are located. Megatron is thawed out, battles the Autobots for the Allspark. Sam pushes the cube into Megatron's chest, destroying the Allspark and temporarily killing Megatron. A second group of Autobots receive communications from Optimus Prime, and they land on Earth.
10. The Decepticons use an Allspark shard to revive Megatron. Megatron is informed of the Fallen's presence on Saturn. The Fallen tells Megatron of the solar harvester. Soundwave also probably informs Megatron that Sentinel is crash landed on the moon and is in stasis lock. Megatron figures that after the solar harvester is activated, they can use the Matrix to revive Sentinel, who would then bring Cybertron to Earth.
11. The Fallen and the Harvester are destroyed. Megatron is damaged in battle and retreats to Africa with Starscream and Soundwave. With the Allspark, solar harvester, and the Fallen all destroyed, his only option is to trick Optimus into reviving Sentinel, strip the planet of its natural resources, and enslave the humans. More Decepticon reinforcements arrive and land on the moon.
12. The Decepticons put a plan in motion to lure the Autobots to the moon. Sentinel Prime is revived, and he betrays the Autobots. He activates a space bridge and brings the Decepticon army from the moon to the Earth. Another space bridge is created that nearly succeeds in bringing Cybertron to Earth. Autobots and humans fight back; the space bridge, Cybertron, Sentinel, and all the remaining Decepticons are destroyed.

Obviously, I doubt the writers put this much thought into making the movies connect. I realize this timeline doesn't line up with the "official" timeline from the Transformers Wiki, which includes information from the comics and novels. I'm trying to tie the events together using only what is stated in the movies.

I disagree. We know that Megatron left Cybertron first because he crash landed on Earth before Sentinel Prime arrived. We also know that Megatron left to find the Allspark, so the Allspark was launched into space before either of them left Cybertron.

Not quite. Optimus Prime was in charge when the war ended on Cybertron and was the one who launched the Allspark into space. It's said so in Transformers Beginnings.(why else would Prime feel so guilty about the whole Allspark thing if it wasn't on his watch?) Megatron did not leave till Allspark was in space ine very single outside description of the accounts before the movie. In DOTM Optimus says I wonder if you could have won the war in my place on Cybertron, reinforcing that Sentinel was not present when the Allspark was fired into space.


On top of that Megatron and the Decepticons didn't know where Allspark was heading till they found it on Earth. (otherwise Megatron would have had all his troop follow much sooner.)Thanks for playing.

Hmmm...I suppose it is possible that Sentinel left first and arrived after Megatron. However, it makes you wonder what exactly his plan was initially. Just find some random planet and strip it of its resources? I mean, at that point, they still had the Allspark, so Cybertron still had an energy source.

So maybe while he was out looking for a suitable planet, the Allspark was shot into space, Megatron pursued it and tracked it to Earth. The only thing that I can think is that while he was approaching Earth, Megatron somehow contacted Sentinel and said something along the lines of "Hey, the Allspark has been shot into space and most of us have left Cybertron to look for it. I found the Allspark, come meet me at these coordinates." and then a minute later, his guidance system malfunctioned and he crashed. Sentinel received the message, turned his ship around and went towards Earth, and then he accidentally crashed on the moon.

I think they're plan was to go to Earth before the Allspark was launched. The fallen knew Earth was inhabited and would have probably told Megatron about it. So he made the deal with Sentinel to meet there and enslave the people to rebuild Cybertron.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:I think they're plan was to go to Earth before the Allspark was launched. The fallen knew Earth was inhabited and would have probably told Megatron about it. So he made the deal with Sentinel to meet there and enslave the people to rebuild Cybertron.

how were humans going to be much help is what i cant work out

was cybertron habitable
where would food supplies come from
the size and strength differential
the technology gap


It would be like getting apes to help us build houses