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Shadowman wrote:

Vicalliose wrote:Maybe MegaUploads plans were best.

Megaupload's plans involved paying people for uploading things, even, perhaps especially pirated content. That's illegal even without SOPA. They weren't just cutting out the middle man, they were cutting out the artist, too.

Agh, you make a point. F*** it then I just don't care. Also I hate Japan now, life sucks.

Also my brother noted to me that the reason OPEN only considers foreign sites infringers is because the private sector already has the tools to deal with US hosted sites. I suppose that makes sense.

Megauploads motives are yet to be proved, but they are somewhat suspect, we must accept that at least.

Their Megabox service would have revolutionised music downloading though and would have killed iTunes, I really hope someone continues with that.


At least those who lost out when Megaupload was binned are trying to get their money/files back

MegaUpload Users Plan to Sue the FBI over Lost Files - Torrentfreak.com wrote:In a response, Pirate Parties worldwide have started to make a list of all the people affected by the raids, and they are planning to file an official complaint against the US authorities.

Whatever you think of Pirates, they aren't taking this laying down.

Psychout wrote:Megauploads motives are yet to be proved, but they are somewhat suspect, we must accept that at least.

Their Megabox service would have revolutionised music downloading though and would have killed iTunes, I really hope someone continues with that.


At least those who lost out when Megaupload was binned are trying to get their money/files back

MegaUpload Users Plan to Sue the FBI over Lost Files - Torrentfreak.com wrote:In a response, Pirate Parties worldwide have started to make a list of all the people affected by the raids, and they are planning to file an official complaint against the US authorities.

Whatever you think of Pirates, they aren't taking this laying down.

Isn't this exactly what hard drives and flash drives are for? Considering the vast number of methods of storing data that aren't Megaupload, they don't really have much of a case.

Shadowman wrote:Isn't this exactly what hard drives and flash drives are for? Considering the vast number of methods of storing data that aren't Megaupload, they don't really have much of a case.

Call me crazy but i'm fairly certain the engineering boys at work, who put something together in Autodesk Inventor which may be a few hundred megabytes in size, wouldn't want to be sending said file to colleagues overseas via snail mail.

Burn wrote:

Shadowman wrote:Isn't this exactly what hard drives and flash drives are for? Considering the vast number of methods of storing data that aren't Megaupload, they don't really have much of a case.

Call me crazy but i'm fairly certain the engineering boys at work, who put something together in Autodesk Inventor which may be a few hundred megabytes in size, wouldn't want to be sending said file to colleagues overseas via snail mail.

That has nothing to do with what's going on. That said, pack it into a .RAR or .ZIP file, upload it to an e-mail, and send it that way. A few hundred megabytes is peanuts anyway.

The problem isn't about not being able to transfer files, it's about files being completely lost because of the shutdown. Files that any sane person would have kept on their hard drive.

It's not just about lost files. What about productivity lost? What about deadlines missed because of different time zones and the lack of notice about the take down?

And really, zip it up and pop it in an e-mail? A lot of companies put restrictions on the size of attachments.

Whatever ... we'll never truly know how many legitimate users were affected by the take down and how much it cost their businesses.

Burn wrote:It's not just about lost files. What about productivity lost? What about deadlines missed because of different time zones and the lack of notice about the take down?

I'm going to guess none, tops. You're taking an exaggerated worst-case-scenario and posing it like that's all that happened. And even if it did, they'll find another way. It's a big internet, there's always another solution.

And if the files were lost, it's the user's own fault. I've learned long ago, the internet is not a safe place to keep anything you don't want to lose. Servers are only reliable up until they break, and they do break.

Shadowman wrote:

Burn wrote:It's not just about lost files. What about productivity lost? What about deadlines missed because of different time zones and the lack of notice about the take down?

I'm going to guess none, tops. You're taking an exaggerated worst-case-scenario and posing it like that's all that happened. And even if it did, they'll find another way. It's a big internet, there's always another solution.

And if the files were lost, it's the user's own fault. I've learned long ago, the internet is not a safe place to keep anything you don't want to lose. Servers are only reliable up until they break, and they do break.

Think about it his way, indie developers, amateur/freelance writers and artists need an convenient online space to store large files securely. Those without the technical know how or funds for an IT department could pay $200 dollars for a lifetimes membership with limitless uploads, storage with an international network to distribute their files and work, and a place accessible by business partners wherever in the world they are in case any changes needed to be made. Flash drives and laptops can be stolen, hard drives can get corrupted, online storage was treated by many as futureproof.

The fact is that people have lost legitimate work, regardless of your opinion of their business practices, and therefore - with it being America and all - they have have right to be compensated.

Another thing that's come to my attention is that allot of my game modding sites also have to use big file hosting sites when their files exceeded a limit on the modding site itself. Also some of the less than savory users are in the habit of uploading content ripped from other games. And most of the legit stuff is still based directly off of something from another game. Then again there's usually no money involved for the modders themselves so I suppose there's nothing to be too worried about.

So, any chance of Seibertron.com getting behind protests of CISPA?

It's not exactly like SOPA/PIPA, but it would give the government and corporations the power to quash the 1st Amendment online, as long as they claim it's for "cybersecurity".

And there's that deal ISPs made with the RIAA and MPAA to constantly spy on their users for any "piracy", and some backroom deal Chris Dodd just made with Obama to enact some sort of "Back-Door SOPA/PIPA" without any approval from congress.

Just wanted to make sure this was brought up, since the technology companies DON'T have our backs this time, and I thought this the best thread for it.