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Re: SOPA

PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:43 am
by Shadowman
prowl123 wrote:Obama has to sign the bill for it to be passed, does he not?


Yes, but only after the bill is passed in both the House and Senate. The President has nothing to do with it at this point.

Re: SOPA

PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:12 pm
by prowl123
Shadowman wrote:
prowl123 wrote:Obama has to sign the bill for it to be passed, does he not?


Yes, but only after the bill is passed in both the House and Senate. The President has nothing to do with it at this point.


Well then, the Senate and House of Reps had better not pass this.

Re: SOPA

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:52 am
by Psychout
Let me try and put this in simpler terms, as we really do need to discuss this.

If SOPA (or PIPA) get through, it will give the American authorities the ability to permanently remove a website from the Internet over an allegation of copyright infringement that doesn't even need to be from the copyright holder.
The owner of the site is then held responsible and faces fines and a jail term.

Now look at the images just on this page, in your sigs, over in HMW and on the comics pages. All of them are actionable images that could potentially get this site shut down. How many of you use photobucket? Wikipedia? Facebook? Twitter? Yahoo? These will all have to go too, which is why they have joined other big sites on the net like Reddit to publicly stand against this bill.

Bickering over cemantics isn't going to help, this bill needs everyones help to get it stopped. Sitting back and saying 'well, this might not happen' is taking a pretty major risk considering what you stand to lose here.
Think about it guys, I assume you don't want to lose this place?

Re: SOPA

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:58 am
by BeastProwl
If this bill passes, both youtube and seibertron, along with facebook and COUNTLESS other sites will suffer for it. But what can I do? How can I help? :-(

Re: SOPA

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:20 pm
by Psychout
First up, arm yourself. Read up on both SOPA and PIPA on wikipedia and know what it means if it passes. Contact your representatives in all levels of government, tell them that you oppose this bill and if they support it ask them why, ask them if they understand what they are doing to a global resource and if they understand the damage that this act is capable of. Ensure they know that whilst we stand against piracy, draconian censorship measures like this aren't what's required and holding the websites owners responsible for something that is impossible for them to control has the potential to destroy the internet as we know it.

Then ask everyone you know on the internet to do the same.

And whilst I don't really like to refer people to another website, check out reddit.com/r/SOPA as that's where most of the opposition to this appears to be rallying.