GuyIncognito wrote:Noob-Sai-Bot wrote:Sinnertwin wrote:I dont know about the comics, but the yellow eyes appear to be a nod to the G1 toy. In esence, theyre made at the same factory, few different paint apps and you're getting SW & 5 cassettes for less than the Takara SW alone.
For how much did TRU sell this Hasbro Soundwave?
$120 or $125 at TRU in the U.S.
For me, the extra cassettes add way more value than differently-colored eyes.
fenrir72 wrote:MP Ravage is just as good if not better than the G1 original (this is coming from G1 enthusiast) so it depends how yo like it. "Brick" or modern engineered?
Noob-Sai-Bot wrote:
Youtube videos suggest the TRU SW has a "duller" cassette-bezel.
Noob-Sai-Bot wrote:Now I see (small) pics and think 'wow ravage has been made uglier than the G1 version'. So not sure which one it is.
Doubledealer93 wrote:after having the TRU MP soundwave i can honestly say i cant belive anyone would pay $50+ more for red eyes. the toy is beautiful, does not feel cheap at all, cassetts feel amazing and i have had no problems with him or the cassetts at all.
Yotsuyasan wrote:Noob-Sai-Bot wrote:Now I see (small) pics and think 'wow ravage has been made uglier than the G1 version'. So not sure which one it is.
Since there is some question on how Masterpiece Ravage looks compared to G1 Ravage, I thought I'd do some quick photos. Apologies in advance if these aren't the best, I didn't do anything fancy like pull out my normal backdrop. (I just stood them a blank white piece of paper.)
Also, even though it wasn't part of the question, just for fun I thought I'd throw my 2008 Universe Ravage into these pics, as well. (This Ravage has been Reprolabeled.)
In all of these it will be G1 (reissue) on the left, Hasbro Masterpiece in the center, and Universe on the right.
First, the Cassette modes.
The front:
G1 and Masterpiece both look pretty darn good here! I'm going to say the MP edges it out slightly, however, as there is a visible gap under the right reel on the G1. The Universe one is only saved from being a disaster in this mode by the Reprolabels.
The back:
Cassette based Transformers almost invariably suffer from not bothering too hard on one side. The G1 version suffers from lack of a cassette deco here. But not too surprising, as one side needs to favour the jaguar mode. The Masterpiece one probably suffers the most on this side compared to any of its Masterpiece cassette brethren. In this case, though, I'd actually say the Universe one wins! It may technically still be the weakest cassette of the three, but the Reprolabels give it cassette details that neither of the other two have on the B side.
On to the jaguar modes!
This is probably the best angle on the three. Overall, I like the Masterpiece the best. But the other two aren't shabby.
The Universe one suffers from being a bit of a brick. Okay, you can wag his tail, and reposition his rear legs slightly... but the lack of articulation in his feet limit what you can do with his legs to almost nothing. His head sculpt always looked a bit funky, too. Almost beak-like rather then a feline face. It does have integrated weapons on its hindquarters, but given that they are tiny and colored black, people almost always overlook them on this figure, so they may as well not even be there. His jaguar mode does have cassette detailing (thanks to the Reprolabels) all over him, but he makes it work. I just think of it as the look of "Classics" Ravage rather then a true G1 Ravage look.
The otherwise excellent G1 figure just suffers from a lack of dimensionality that the above photo hides well, but will be more clear from other angles seen below. Also, while it does have awesome, huge, chromed weapons over the hindquarters, they are separate pieces that have to be removed for cassette mode. Not unusual in a G1 toy, but it must be mentioned if we are comparing it to the Masterpiece. And, of course, on his reverse side he has obvious cassette details. (Not as bad as the lack of such details on one side of the cassette mode, but still note worthy.)
So, the Masterpiece. Good sculpt. Nice face. Good and expressive articulation. Integrated weapons. And it is three dimensional! A minor complaint would be a bit of kibble on the inner sides of the legs, but it isn't enough to make me dislike the look of the figure, and it also doesn't hinder the articulation in any way.
(The only major complaint I'd have is that mine came misassembled, and I had to do some scary surgery involving pin removal, plastic trimming, and a silver Sharpie to fix him... But I've not seen anyone else complain about this, so I hope I was an isolated case.)
Additional photos:
And just for fun, some photos I already had, taken just after getting the third party Beastbox and Squawktalk. (Hence their emphasis in these photos.) Ravage with other cassette based animals:
Frenzy, Squawkbox, and Rumble. (Or, if you must, Rumble, Squawkbox, and Frenzy: )
Cassette modes:
My Masterpiece Decepticons shelf:
Noob-Sai-Bot wrote:I hope Hasbro will issue all 5 cassettes as a seperate kit. haha. :pray: I also love the yellow buzzaw and purple-ish rumble
Delicon wrote:Thank you for NOT including FoC Ravage and the other data discs!
xyl360 wrote:Doubledealer93 wrote:after having the TRU MP soundwave i can honestly say i cant belive anyone would pay $50+ more for red eyes. the toy is beautiful, does not feel cheap at all, cassetts feel amazing and i have had no problems with him or the cassetts at all.
I'd pay $100 more for red eyes. Those eyes are one of the most iconic things about him to me. It would be just as bad as Hasbro releasing him in entirely hot pink instead of blue. It's something I would not accept.
xyl360 wrote:Doubledealer93 wrote:after having the TRU MP soundwave i can honestly say i cant belive anyone would pay $50+ more for red eyes. the toy is beautiful, does not feel cheap at all, cassetts feel amazing and i have had no problems with him or the cassetts at all.
I'd pay $100 more for red eyes. Those eyes are one of the most iconic things about him to me. It would be just as bad as Hasbro releasing him in entirely hot pink instead of blue. It's something I would not accept.
xyl360 wrote:Doubledealer93 wrote:after having the TRU MP soundwave i can honestly say i cant belive anyone would pay $50+ more for red eyes. the toy is beautiful, does not feel cheap at all, cassetts feel amazing and i have had no problems with him or the cassetts at all.
I'd pay $100 more for red eyes. Those eyes are one of the most iconic things about him to me. It would be just as bad as Hasbro releasing him in entirely hot pink instead of blue. It's something I would not accept.
neums wrote:xyl360 wrote:Doubledealer93 wrote:after having the TRU MP soundwave i can honestly say i cant belive anyone would pay $50+ more for red eyes. the toy is beautiful, does not feel cheap at all, cassetts feel amazing and i have had no problems with him or the cassetts at all.
I'd pay $100 more for red eyes. Those eyes are one of the most iconic things about him to me. It would be just as bad as Hasbro releasing him in entirely hot pink instead of blue. It's something I would not accept.
You are aware that the Hasbro version is accurate when it comes to the original toy release, right? Takara's red eyes version is only that way because of the red eyes in the cartoon. The G1 toy had yellow eyes, so that's why it's that way.
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