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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:04 pm

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Cobalt Prime wrote: It would have been one thing to use his omniscient powers over Hollywood to see that she never got another gig again AFTER TF3, in itself petty and vindictive, but at least he wouldn't have had to interrupt DOTM's story flow, leaving a quite obvious glitch.


I saw zero glitches in the story line related to Megan's Absence. personally, i couldn't see Mikeala in the same role as Carly. Mikeala'a character was a lot more rough around the edges than Carly and wouldn't have fit in as Dylan's personal assistant.

I also find it funny that while so many complained about the bots not having enough screen time, there's so much fuss over the absence of a human character. ;)
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby Cobalt Prime » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:16 pm

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Cobalt Prime wrote: It would have been one thing to use his omniscient powers over Hollywood to see that she never got another gig again AFTER TF3, in itself petty and vindictive, but at least he wouldn't have had to interrupt DOTM's story flow, leaving a quite obvious glitch.


I saw zero glitches in the story line related to Megan's Absence. personally, i couldn't see Mikeala in the same role as Carly. Mikeala'a character was a lot more rough around the edges than Carly and wouldn't have fit in as Dylan's personal assistant.

I also find it funny that while so many complained about the bots not having enough screen time, there's so much fuss over the absence of a human character. ;)


Of course, bear in mind that if Mikaela WAS in the third movie, the story would have been written with her "rough around the edges" persona in mind. Several elements would have changed as a result, including the high class museum part.
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby featofstrength » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:20 pm

totally agree with the original poster...Megan replaced by tire-lips killed what little the trilogy had to offer as far as human involvement. And Megatron's defeated in a new time-record!
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby Bonecrusher27 » Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:44 am

shamone wrote:
in what world was she like that.

She stuck with sam when he went to college out of state. She was putting herself in front of a webcam to have a chat with sam whilst he was off gallivanting at his party. Most women as hot as megan fox/mikaela, dont spend their weekends having web chats wih they boyf.

She was loyal to sam, she defended bumblebee in LA/mission city.


And bay to quote myself, acted like the guy who got dumped and then tells all his friends, oh she was mental, she wasnt that hot, she smelt, etc. Its a douche move, a childish petty sad pathetic slur on another human and unbecoming of a man of his age.



Actually I was really surprised he did that. Then again from what I've read and even listening to some of his movie commentaries, I always did think there were certain aspects to the man that are pretty immature. Not that anyone else is perfect, mind. I'm sure we all act out. But the more powerful you are, the greater the scale in which you can act out I suppose :-?
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby Mizuno » Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:11 am

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I watched the movie yesterday for a second time and something cought my eye... perhaps i'm drawing lines here but IMHO its something which COULD explain megatrons change in attitude at the end of the movie.

In fact it was hinted at the beginiing of the movie and even in ROTF XD

Did anyone notice how megs took care of the hatchlings in the scene where he meets up with starscream?
He was alone in a somewhat shabby looking camp and tending to the rest of the hatchlings which did made it through rotf, perhaps in that time he started to think and doubt his actions ^^

which could explain why he offered peace to optimus and perhaps his request was genuine.

alas with megatron you'll never know for sure ^^
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:37 pm

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Little late here, but Mikaela... I missed her character. And I hated Carly. After everything Mikaela and Sam went through, after the Pyramids and Alice and Mission City and getting in the car, no way in the Pit she'd dump him. No. Way.

Carly was a vapid waste of protoplasm. I HATED her. :-x With the exception of her and Megatron, completely useless. And considering old Megs' shape, a dog barking at him would've engendered the same effect!
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby Autobot032 » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:23 pm

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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Little late here, but Mikaela... I missed her character. And I hated Carly. After everything Mikaela and Sam went through, after the Pyramids and Alice and Mission City and getting in the car, no way in the Pit she'd dump him. No. Way.

Carly was a vapid waste of protoplasm. I HATED her. :-x With the exception of her and Megatron, completely useless. And considering old Megs' shape, a dog barking at him would've engendered the same effect!


This is nothing but bias clouding your judgment.

Carly worked for an embassy.
She was an executive assistant for Hotchkiss/Gould.
She was intelligent enough to tell the cavalry where to go and what was at stake, and she was able to rub salt in Megatron's wound.

Mikaela painted bikes in her Dad's bike shop.
It was probably her first job.
She killed Alice. (Whoopity doo.)

Megan Fox is not an actress, and I give her credit for trying.
Rosie Huntington-Whitely is a model and not an actress, but for her first try, she succeeded. She has genuine talent.

I admit I have bias towards Megan Fox, however, my dislike of her is not enough to say she's ruined the experience for me. Even I can rise above it and give her some credit. You can't even do that for Rosie.

She's 10 times the actress and eye candy that Megan Fox is. Why? Because there's some intelligence behind the pretty face.
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:14 pm

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Autobot032 wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Little late here, but Mikaela... I missed her character. And I hated Carly. After everything Mikaela and Sam went through, after the Pyramids and Alice and Mission City and getting in the car, no way in the Pit she'd dump him. No. Way.

Carly was a vapid waste of protoplasm. I HATED her. :-x With the exception of her and Megatron, completely useless. And considering old Megs' shape, a dog barking at him would've engendered the same effect!


This is nothing but bias clouding your judgment.

Carly worked for an embassy.
She was an executive assistant for Hotchkiss/Gould.
She was intelligent enough to tell the cavalry where to go and what was at stake, and she was able to rub salt in Megatron's wound.



All correct. Not to mention her purpose was also to blackmail Sam into attempting to find out the autobots plan. Sam was esentially the only one who could possible infiltrate the Autobots. They needed to show how much they cared for each other since holding her hostage was the only way Sam would do what the Decepticons wanted.

So as much as people may not want to admit, having human characters, and even a love story was relevent to the overall story.
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby Optimus Primevil » Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:25 pm

probably because without humans it'll be a non-stop explosion fest full of dynamic kills. it might be fun during the first 30 minutes but will be boring beyond that
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby saucerdo » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:33 pm

Maybe he wanted OP to become his pet?


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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby Optimus Primevil » Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:17 am

Autobot032 wrote:Mikaela painted bikes in her Dad's bike shop.
It was probably her first job.
She killed Alice. (Whoopity doo.)



did simmons honor the deal sam made in the first movie or was mr barnes sentence up and got released anyway? if it's the second option then having a juvie record will hurt mikaela's career options.

and she beheaded frenzy and blow torched wheelie's eye


someone really needs to redo the army of darkness poster with megan fox(chainsaw on one hand, blowtorch on the other) as ash and shia as the girl.
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby shamone » Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:47 am

Autobot032 wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Little late here, but Mikaela... I missed her character. And I hated Carly. After everything Mikaela and Sam went through, after the Pyramids and Alice and Mission City and getting in the car, no way in the Pit she'd dump him. No. Way.

Carly was a vapid waste of protoplasm. I HATED her. :-x With the exception of her and Megatron, completely useless. And considering old Megs' shape, a dog barking at him would've engendered the same effect!


This is nothing but bias clouding your judgment.

Carly worked for an embassy.
She was an executive assistant for Hotchkiss/Gould.
She was intelligent enough to tell the cavalry where to go and what was at stake, and she was able to rub salt in Megatron's wound.

Mikaela painted bikes in her Dad's bike shop.
It was probably her first job.
She killed Alice. (Whoopity doo.)

Megan Fox is not an actress, and I give her credit for trying.
Rosie Huntington-Whitely is a model and not an actress, but for her first try, she succeeded. She has genuine talent.

I admit I have bias towards Megan Fox, however, my dislike of her is not enough to say she's ruined the experience for me. Even I can rise above it and give her some credit. You can't even do that for Rosie.

She's 10 times the actress and eye candy that Megan Fox is. Why? Because there's some intelligence behind the pretty face.


i love that you accuse the other poster of bias, then produce a supremely biased post.

Mikaela did so much more during the movies than carly
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby BeastProwl » Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:16 am

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GodMagnus wrote:I also want to mention that little chat Carly had with Megatron felt like it should have been Mikaela saying that instead.

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Still, megatron, how he died, was just WRONG. WTF Optimus.... WTF.....
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby iaconportland » Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:31 am

I'm glad that someone posted this topic. It hit me when I watched the movie again and caught the scene where Sentinel orders the Decepticons to launch the pillars. First of all, the line deserved a more dramatic delivery regardless of who said it. Mainly, though- that should have been Megatron's line, not Sentinel's. I don't care how weakened Megatron was...the Megs I "know" would never have let an Autobot, even an Autobot defector, give orders to his men. As he said, the leader of the Decepticons was always him.

As far as Megan Fox - meh. Don't care one way or the other. I liked Carly a lot, though...she fit in better with Dylan than Mikaela would have.
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby Budamis Prime » Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:50 am

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they said a new villian was shockwave to me it seemed more like sentinel was the villian don't get me wrong shockwave was good an yea the way they did away with megatron was wrong I think what they should of done was have one of the decepticons kill megan fox at the start or soon after in the movie...like megatron or starscream
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:40 pm

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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Little late here, but Mikaela... I missed her character. And I hated Carly. After everything Mikaela and Sam went through, after the Pyramids and Alice and Mission City and getting in the car, no way in the Pit she'd dump him. No. Way.

Carly was a vapid waste of protoplasm. I HATED her. :-x With the exception of her and Megatron, completely useless. And considering old Megs' shape, a dog barking at him would've engendered the same effect!


This is nothing but bias clouding your judgment.

Carly worked for an embassy.
She was an executive assistant for Hotchkiss/Gould.
She was intelligent enough to tell the cavalry where to go and what was at stake, and she was able to rub salt in Megatron's wound.

Mikaela painted bikes in her Dad's bike shop.
It was probably her first job.
She killed Alice. (Whoopity doo.)

Megan Fox is not an actress, and I give her credit for trying.
Rosie Huntington-Whitely is a model and not an actress, but for her first try, she succeeded. She has genuine talent.

I admit I have bias towards Megan Fox, however, my dislike of her is not enough to say she's ruined the experience for me. Even I can rise above it and give her some credit. You can't even do that for Rosie.

She's 10 times the actress and eye candy that Megan Fox is. Why? Because there's some intelligence behind the pretty face.


Ah... bull?

Mikaela chopped off Frenzy's head, got into the car with Sam, "I drive, you shoot!' ring a bell? She stopped Wheelie from getting the Allspark shard and killed Alice/stopped her from capturing Sam.

Also, Rosie with her pouty lips was crap compared to Megan. And eye candy? I... really don't give a damn about that. I really don't.

What did Carly do? Get captured, and give a talk to Megatron, who at that point a dog barking would've spurred him into the same actions.

So, maybe a bit of bias, but also a lot of fact there too. Mikaela was a better character than Carly and her leaving Sam after everything they went through made negative sense. Yes, that's right. Negative sense.
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby TexHex » Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:37 pm

I agree with the start of this post. I hated the way they basically got rid of Mikaela. WTH same and her were in LOVE at the end of ROTF and now she's just gone...ok what a crock! Although I did like the new girl...way hotter btw and better actress IMHO.

I also totally didn't like the way Megatron helped OP kill Sentinel and then OP rips his head off. I know that OP saw an opportunity to end the war..again..but still. It would've made more sense for the younger viewers especially, to have them both go their separate ways after defeating their common enemy. At the very least, OP vs Megs should've taken a lot longer considering OPs condition at the time...incidentally I hated the very short battle between OP and the Fallen...way too short...OP wooped his azz

Maybe just the huge fanboy in me, but I really wished that the Decepticons would've essentially won in either ROTF or DOTM so they autobots would've had an even more dramatic challenge the next time out....ie Empire Strikes Back...Lucas knew what he was doing.
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

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well i thought rosie was beyond poor, i dont think megan is a great actress, but good enough for an action movie, rosie was worse in every way imo.

She didnt fit well with sam, she couldnt act, as for eye candy, well imo megan is much better.

An it aint just bias, me an my mates took our partners (who like the films but dislike TF in general), they both thought rosie was pretty dire. but again i dare say i disagree with the main populous so i'll be classed as wrong in something thats about opinions
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby zwann » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:51 am

I missed the truce part during my first view.

But after reading the comments you guys wrote, I started to see there is a possibilty they are supposed to hint Megatron is tired of the war.

Megatron showed that he cared for the hatchlings during his introduction, feeding them.
This may meant to show that he is concern for his species.

Megatron didn't got involved in battle at all(except the last part), instead he just sits by the corner like a warrior who is tired of all of this, all this war.

Sentinel Prime pretty much took charge in everything after the space bridge activation. Megatron did not even bother to fight for control(I only watched once, I may missed something). Megatron only attack SP after Carly influenced him excessively.

And of course, I noticed a different look on Megatron's face when he looked up at Cybertron. He has a sincere look of care, relieved that it is safe.

Perhaps, like you guys mentioned, the novel is based on screenplay, the movie followed a bit of it, but changed the last part, due to technical issues.

I'll be honest, I didn't hear the truce part, but I sympathize Megatron's character, not as a villian, but as a long time rival of Optimus. This last movie should do the duo fight more justice. Give a last epic fight. Megatron is still injured as many considered, but so is Optimus at the time. No matter how superior Optimus training is all the years with NEST, he's injured with one arm, Megatron should have a fighting chance. Decepticon or not, he deserved, WE deserved an epic finish to the rivalry that started a long time ago. Not a less than 10 seconds "fight".
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby shamone » Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:44 am

zwann wrote:I missed the truce part during my first view.

But after reading the comments you guys wrote, I started to see there is a possibilty they are supposed to hint Megatron is tired of the war.

Megatron showed that he cared for the hatchlings during his introduction, feeding them.
This may meant to show that he is concern for his species.

Megatron didn't got involved in battle at all(except the last part), instead he just sits by the corner like a warrior who is tired of all of this, all this war.

Sentinel Prime pretty much took charge in everything after the space bridge activation. Megatron did not even bother to fight for control(I only watched once, I may missed something). Megatron only attack SP after Carly influenced him excessively.

And of course, I noticed a different look on Megatron's face when he looked up at Cybertron. He has a sincere look of care, relieved that it is safe.

Perhaps, like you guys mentioned, the novel is based on screenplay, the movie followed a bit of it, but changed the last part, due to technical issues.

I'll be honest, I didn't hear the truce part, but I sympathize Megatron's character, not as a villian, but as a long time rival of Optimus. This last movie should do the duo fight more justice. Give a last epic fight. Megatron is still injured as many considered, but so is Optimus at the time. No matter how superior Optimus training is all the years with NEST, he's injured with one arm, Megatron should have a fighting chance. Decepticon or not, he deserved, WE deserved an epic finish to the rivalry that started a long time ago. Not a less than 10 seconds "fight".


this i agree with

not caring if megs wanted peace or not, just give him dignity in death

not a oh we are running out of time/cgi budget, optimus take him out
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby Mizuno » Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:07 pm

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less "eye candy" and there, in fact, would be enough time for at least some minutes of OP vs Megs... but noooo bay loves explosions and showing of carlys ... uhm.. back ^^;;
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