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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby dinogeist » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:57 pm

I also saw the DOTM movie.

Lets get one fact straight. Megatron Didn't beat/defeat Sentinel prime in a fair fight.

Megatron attacked sentinel prime from the back when he was looking/expecting it. to make matters worse sentinel prime was a bit exausted due to him fighting optimus prime.

this is called cheating or/and a dis-honable defeat of one's opponent.

had megatron taken on sentinel prime face to face,he would have lost the fight. because DOTM megatron was in a weakened/battle damaged state. due to his injuries he substained in the ROTF movie.
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:57 pm

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deathy wrote:I also saw the DOTM movie.

Lets get one fact straight. Megatron Didn't beat/defeat Sentinel prime in a fair fight.

Megatron attacked sentinel prime from the back when he was looking/expecting it. to make matters worse sentinel prime was a bit exausted due to him fighting optimus prime.

this is called cheating or/and a dis-honable defeat of one's opponent.

had megatron taken on sentinel prime face to face,he would have lost the fight. because DOTM megatron was in a weakened/battle damaged state. due to his injuries he substained in the ROTF movie.


Lets also take another point into concideration...

For the most part, all the decepticon generals (by generals i mean main characters) such as shockwave, Starscream, Soundwave etc;.. Basicly anyone worth a damn capable of defeating the remaining surviving autobots) were dead. Most of the autobots were still alive. If Megatron lets Sentinel kill Optimus, then he offs Sentinel, the remaining Autobots are going to do everything they can to stop Megatron. Megatron needed Optimus so the remaining Autobots would go along with the plan, as well as the to call off the remaing human attack.

And becides, bottom line is it really doesn't matter if Megs was sencere about his truce. He killed Optimus in the past, slaughtered thousands of humans, and is responsible for Autobot deaths. These actions can not go un-punished. You can not just turn a blind shoulder at the past because your enemy all of a sudden offers it. Especialy when that truce comes with conditions.
For the life of me, i just don't see why people are getting upset atthe way Optimus terminated his life! :BANG_HEAD: I mean it
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby Capt.Failure » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:42 am

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deathy wrote:I also saw the DOTM movie.

Lets get one fact straight. Megatron Didn't beat/defeat Sentinel prime in a fair fight.

Megatron attacked sentinel prime from the back when he was looking/expecting it. to make matters worse sentinel prime was a bit exausted due to him fighting optimus prime.

this is called cheating or/and a dis-honable defeat of one's opponent.

had megatron taken on sentinel prime face to face,he would have lost the fight. because DOTM megatron was in a weakened/battle damaged state. due to his injuries he substained in the ROTF movie.


Lets also take another point into concideration...

For the most part, all the decepticon generals (by generals i mean main characters) such as shockwave, Starscream, Soundwave etc;.. Basicly anyone worth a damn capable of defeating the remaining surviving autobots) were dead. Most of the autobots were still alive. If Megatron lets Sentinel kill Optimus, then he offs Sentinel, the remaining Autobots are going to do everything they can to stop Megatron. Megatron needed Optimus so the remaining Autobots would go along with the plan, as well as the to call off the remaing human attack.

And becides, bottom line is it really doesn't matter if Megs was sencere about his truce. He killed Optimus in the past, slaughtered thousands of humans, and is responsible for Autobot deaths. These actions can not go un-punished. You can not just turn a blind shoulder at the past because your enemy all of a sudden offers it. Especialy when that truce comes with conditions.
For the life of me, i just don't see why people are getting upset atthe way Optimus terminated his life! :BANG_HEAD: I mean it


I do believe it's people still unwilling to realize that these are movies, not kids shows, and thus are gonna have more room to show just how violent a war is going to be. Quite simply the black and white morality of the cartoons will not fit in a theatrical film. Mature storytellers realize that sometimes the heroes are gonna need to do ugly things to ensure the safety of those they hold dear. You know, like killing the mass murdering psychopath who's responsible for three attempts at destroying all life on a planet.
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby insanity 22 » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:53 am

I really don't know how I feel about Prime killing Megatron that fast. But if you think about it
TF 1 prequel: Megatron ripped out BB's voicebox
TF 1 Megatron ripped, Jazz his 1st lieutenant, in two
ROTF: Megatron killed Optimus
DOTM:Optimus was betrayed, Sentinel killed Ironhide with cosmic rust which IMO is worse than murder and also, Sentinel took his arm offSo if I was Optimus I would be a little bitter too.
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby Pot Bot » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:44 am

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I think i need to watch again, or maybe because i havent read the novel i looked at it differently, i saw it as Carly infuriating megs to the point he saw red and wanted to rip sentinal to pieces no matter what, then with sentinal dead, optimus slaughted a weakened and now calmed down megs. Its also how everyone else i went with looked at it.

I also think Mikela wouldve done that lil chat 100% better.
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby moritron » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:52 am

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I thought megatron only attacked sentinel because he saw him as a threat to his leadership, which he was. I don't think he intended to save prime, only attack sentinel. also i thought the "truce" megatron was offering was for the autobots to join with the decepticons, with megatron in command, i might have misunderstood, but that's what i got from it. seems like megatron deserved what he got, a truce seems much less likely, and to me would have been less likely of an ending.
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby Pot Bot » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:56 am

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moritron wrote:I thought megatron only attacked sentinel because he saw him as a threat to his leadership, which he was. I don't think he intended to save prime, only attack sentinel. also i thought the "truce" megatron was offering was for the autobots to join with the decepticons, with megatron in command, i might have misunderstood, but that's what i got from it. seems like megatron deserved what he got, a truce seems much less likely, and to me would have been less likely of an ending.


As i stated above, thats pretty much what i got from it
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby Cheesinator » Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:40 am

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Capt.Failure wrote:I do believe it's people still unwilling to realize that these are movies, not kids shows, and thus are gonna have more room to show just how violent a war is going to be. Quite simply the black and white morality of the cartoons will not fit in a theatrical film. Mature storytellers realize that sometimes the heroes are gonna need to do ugly things to ensure the safety of those they hold dear. You know, like killing the mass murdering psychopath who's responsible for three attempts at destroying all life on a planet.


Amusing you say that, given how most of Optimus' lines seem to be lifted straight out of a Saturday morning cartoon (with his occasional quips about killing things being the exceptions), and display the black and white morality of the cartoons.

Optimus is constantly preaching freedom, peace and the value of life, yet the choices he makes and actions he takes are as harsh and cruel as any of Megatron's (such as deeming the extinction of one race and planet acceptable in order to secure the survival of another race and planet that he finds acceptable).

Of course, that's only if you read into it. The way Optimus takes out his enemies isn't to show how ugly war is, it's to make him look awesome and provide cool looking scenes for a mindless action movie. I sincerely doubt that Bay or any of the production team read into these actions like we are doing.
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby sten whik » Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:12 am

It seems to me that Linkin Park's song Iridescent fits more with the truce ending...

Do you feel cold and lost in desperation
you build up hope, but failure's all you've known
remember all the sadness and frustration
and let it go.

The song appears to be telling Megatron and Optimus Prime to forget the war and be friends.
I'm not sure if this is a useful point for this topic but I thought I would mention it all the same.
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby JeffX » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:00 am

I just saw the movie last night. The whole thing about Megan Fox was kind of a low blow, but she brought it on herself. But atleast she was mentioned and not just brought up. We found out what happened to a point and that was it. Couples breakup and I don't see why it can't be any different in a movie.

Megatron was definitely toned down this movie. I'm figuring this was due to his injuries from ROTF. Him turning on Sentinel was a classic Megatron move. He had no intention on starting a truce with Optimus. He wanted Cybertron there and he wanted Sentinel out of the way. In his shape, he wouldn't have been able to beat him. So he took him out, only to have Optimus take him out. It makes sense to me.
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby dinogeist » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:10 am

insanity 22 wrote:I really don't know how I feel about Prime killing Megatron that fast. But if you think about it
TF 1 prequel: Megatron ripped out BB's voicebox
TF 1 Megatron ripped, Jazz his 1st lieutenant, in two
ROTF: Megatron killed Optimus
DOTM:Optimus was betrayed, Sentinel killed Ironhide with cosmic rust which IMO is worse than murder and also, Sentinel took his arm offSo if I was Optimus I would be a little bitter too.


where exactly did you get the "cosmic rust" part from??

I clearly saw Sentinel prime shoot various times at ironhide from the back. then proceed to ripp him apart.

once ironhide was dead,his head fell off & his body began to decompose.
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby SlyTF1 » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:20 am

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insanity 22 wrote:I really don't know how I feel about Prime killing Megatron that fast. But if you think about it
TF 1 prequel: Megatron ripped out BB's voicebox
TF 1 Megatron ripped, Jazz his 1st lieutenant, in two
ROTF: Megatron killed Optimus
DOTM:Optimus was betrayed, Sentinel killed Ironhide with cosmic rust which IMO is worse than murder and also, Sentinel took his arm offSo if I was Optimus I would be a little bitter too.


where exactly did you get the "cosmic rust" part from??

I clearly saw Sentinel prime shoot various times at ironhide from the back. then proceed to ripp him apart.

once ironhide was dead,his head fell off & his body began to decompose.


Why the hell else would he decompose?
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby Bonecrusher27 » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:48 am

deathy wrote:
where exactly did you get the "cosmic rust" part from??

I clearly saw Sentinel prime shoot various times at ironhide from the back. then proceed to ripp him apart.

once ironhide was dead,his head fell off & his body began to decompose.


I believe some people mentioned that the novel describes a special cannon Sentinel Prime has.

Unfortunately it was the only spoiler that managed to slip past my defences, lessening the impact of that moment for me. But it sure looked like exactly what happened to Ironhide. He just got eaten alive by rust and disintegrated. What a shitty moment for me, since Ironhide was my favourite Autobot, and immediately after he and Sideswipe looked so damn cool finishing off the Dreads.

That scene incidentally really decided me that Sentinel Prime wasn't a torn and troubled soul. There seemed to be a real wicked glee since Ironhide was already stunned, but the fact he continued pumping shots into him means he really wanted him dead. Plus his snide "You're discharged from duty" or something like that really makes what happened in the end where Prime executes him entirely justified in my opinion.

By the way, I'm not 'spoilerizing' my posts. I assume that anyone who visits this forum already has watched DOTM or doesn't care about spoilers?
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby Autobot032 » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:58 am

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No cosmic rust, people. An acid rust cannon. Acid. Rust.

Bonecrusher27 wrote:
deathy wrote:
where exactly did you get the "cosmic rust" part from??

I clearly saw Sentinel prime shoot various times at ironhide from the back. then proceed to ripp him apart.

once ironhide was dead,his head fell off & his body began to decompose.


I believe some people mentioned that the novel describes a special cannon Sentinel Prime has.

Unfortunately it was the only spoiler that managed to slip past my defences, lessening the impact of that moment for me. But it sure looked like exactly what happened to Ironhide. He just got eaten alive by rust and disintegrated. What a shitty moment for me, since Ironhide was my favourite Autobot, and immediately after he and Sideswipe looked so damn cool finishing off the Dreads.

That scene incidentally really decided me that Sentinel Prime wasn't a torn and troubled soul. There seemed to be a real wicked glee since Ironhide was already stunned, but the fact he continued pumping shots into him means he really wanted him dead. Plus his snide "You're discharged from duty" or something like that really makes what happened in the end where Prime executes him entirely justified in my opinion.

By the way, I'm not 'spoilerizing' my posts. I assume that anyone who visits this forum already has watched DOTM or doesn't care about spoilers?



No need to worry about spoilers in this here thread, s'all good man.

I agree about Sentinel. He repeatedly said they were Gods. So you know his ego was off the charts.
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby shamone » Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:41 am

I think the issue with the executions is that a lot of us have grown up with the hero myth. They guy who is better than his enemies, better than his peers, better than us. Its an ideal not a realistic portrayal perhaps.

But we dont want obi wan to kill defeated anakin, we dont want luke to kill defeated vader, we dont want wolverine to stab a depowered magneto. Hell even John McClane, the republican wet dream, never summarily executes his vanquished foe. To kill an unarmed or wounded and broken foe is not the standard hollywood has prepared us for.

So for prime to execute twice in the space of seconds, betrays everything we were thought to believe is heroic. What were his options, arrest megs and sentinal, trust megs (bad choice), show mercy. All options with flaws in themselves.

What we wanted was a heroic battle where prime battles the odds, and defeats both in fair combat, where it was kill or be killed. Hell even the trope of the surrendering foe, then sneakily attacking would have been more satisfactory for a lot of us.

Whilst i dont approve nor enjoy the edning, it was better than trusting megatron and letting him rebuild cybertron
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby shamone » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:04 pm

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Bonecrusher27 wrote:
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5150 Cruiser wrote: As far as the whole Megan Fox issue, i don't see any stabs at her. Sam said she dumped him. How's that a stab?


not that it's a stab but it is kinda weak to say she just dumps him for no stated reason. at least this is one case that it would've been better to killed a character off.


Actually Sam says something to the effect of "left me for someone better". And later on, of Carly he says "I've finally found someone who loves me for me." or somesuch. That's dirt cast on memory of the Mikaela character. More directly at Megan Fox, did you notice that scene with at Sam's workplace where his boss is arguing with a Megan Fox-type character? Maybe it's just me, but that scene seems to be a direct thumbs down to Mega Fox.


I'm guessing since Sam went off to college, finnished and wasn't fighting any giant robots, she got bored. It really does fit the character and I'm not surprised.



in what world was she like that.

She stuck with sam when he went to college out of state. She was putting herself in front of a webcam to have a chat with sam whilst he was off gallivanting at his party. Most women as hot as megan fox/mikaela, dont spend their weekends having web chats wih they boyf.

She was loyal to sam, she defended bumblebee in LA/mission city.


And bay to quote myself, acted like the guy who got dumped and then tells all his friends, oh she was mental, she wasnt that hot, she smelt, etc. Its a douche move, a childish petty sad pathetic slur on another human and unbecoming of a man of his age.

and the lines used

"****" (something a few on here seem to agree with him on

"well this one is much prettier"

"im with someone who treats me better/appreciates me"
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby dinogeist » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:32 pm

SlyTF1 wrote:
deathy wrote:
insanity 22 wrote:I really don't know how I feel about Prime killing Megatron that fast. But if you think about it
TF 1 prequel: Megatron ripped out BB's voicebox
TF 1 Megatron ripped, Jazz his 1st lieutenant, in two
ROTF: Megatron killed Optimus
DOTM:Optimus was betrayed, Sentinel killed Ironhide with cosmic rust which IMO is worse than murder and also, Sentinel took his arm offSo if I was Optimus I would be a little bitter too.


where exactly did you get the "cosmic rust" part from??

I clearly saw Sentinel prime shoot various times at ironhide from the back. then proceed to ripp him apart.

once ironhide was dead,his head fell off & his body began to decompose.


Why the hell else would he decompose?


no need to get all natsy in your reply.

I was only asking a simple question in the most polite manner possible.

ANYWAYS like several repliers said,the info came from the DTM Novel. it was,'t cosmic rust like the replier said it was. it was acid Rust,that came out of one of sentinel prime's canons.

THEIR IS A BIG DIFFERENCE IN MIS-CALLING IT COSMIC RUST INSTEAD OF ACID RUST. Cosmic rust was a plague that couldn't be hardened inside a big gun/canon/weappon.

Since sentinel prime was labeled as a scientist. he most likely created the chemicals+weapons to shoot out the acid rust from his canons in the DOTM movie.

FWIW,Various TF characters in the live action TF movies decomposed in a similar fashion to the way ironhide did. like when optimus killed the fallen his body broke apart & he decomposed a bit.

HONESTLY movies rarely follow the novel adaption to the 100% degree. so until I see official proof that sentinel prime fired acid rust from his canons to kill ironhide. I'm going to just believe he just shot up ironhide using a non-acid rust canon/weapon.
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby No Death for Prowl » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:02 pm

I was really interested to see how Megan Fox's character would be written out and, not surprisingly, the easy way was taken.

Personal feelings aside, an honorable departure for Mikaela would only be fitting, but one thing the live action series will never be accused of is showing too much class.

I actually felt bad for Megatron. Maybe his desire for conquest disappeared with the missing half of his head, yet when he finally wakes up and appears in the film, he gets killed (for now).

Then again, the last 2 movies made me feel sympathy for ALL the Decepticons; outnumbering the Autobots 200 to 9 in DOTM, they still manage to lose.

With the Autobots taking a total of 2 confirmed casualties (1 because he was shot in the back by a supposed ally) and perhaps 2 more little guys whose fate is undetermined.

I do have to commend the Decepticons on their perseverance, though.

Perhaps it's their fault, after all. They recruited the wrong Prime. They should have recruited Optimus, once a much-beloved, wise, compassionate, humorous hero (written by writers of an '80s cartoon, mind you) turned one-dimensional bad ass who wraps up the climax of each movie when he decides to finally show up and start chopping off heads(written by Hollywood script writers).
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby Cobalt Prime » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:41 pm

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In regards to Prime offing Megs, I personally think it would have been much more fitting if it had gone down thus:

Megs asks Prime for a truce. Prime says something inspiring about brotherhood or some such Prime stuff and agrees. Prime lets his guard down for a second and Megs strikes at him, perhaps putting another hole in Prime's already busted up chassis. Megs gloats over Prime for a second, then Prime gets his second wind and strikes back in one last desperate attack which ends with his axe buried in Megs' head. Prime has taken the high road, only killing Megs because Megs forces his hand. Character integrity saved.

It seems strange that Bay borrowed heavily from G1 episodes "Ultimate Doom" and "Megatron's Master Plan", yet did not even consider this slight retool of the famous scene from the 80's TF animated movie.

In regards to Megan, I really could care less if she was ever in the movies to begin with, but being that she was in 2 of them, I was concerned that her sudden absence would leave a serious plot hole. And lo and behold, as far as I'm concerned, it did.

Spielberg pretty much let his personal animosity disrupt the flow of a 3-part project. This has nothing to do with whether what she said was right or wrong and I don't want to even get into that debate here. The fact was that this was not the FIRST movie. It was part of an ongoing 3 chapter story with important main character personal plots building up throughout chapter one and two. Spielberg basically said "screw the work Bay and the writers put into one and two. My delicate sensibilities are injured so I'm going to put a nice hole in their work in my drive to punish Fox". It would have been one thing to use his omniscient powers over Hollywood to see that she never got another gig again AFTER TF3, in itself petty and vindictive, but at least he wouldn't have had to interrupt DOTM's story flow, leaving a quite obvious glitch.
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:47 pm

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shamone wrote: So for prime to execute twice in the space of seconds, betrays everything we were thought to believe is heroic.


I think generation gaps have alot to do with it. After speaking to a younger crowd who saw the movie, they all aplauded optimus "violent" streak towards the end, Alot of us grew up with a different Optimus, so i can understand were some may not how it all went down. personally, i preffered this Optimus over the compationite one i grew up with. He was more believeable concidering his surroundings.

shamone wrote:What were his options, arrest megs and sentinal, trust megs (bad choice), show mercy. All options with flaws in themselves.


And what about the betrayal that Optimus suffered? Though he never in his millions of years of life would have thought that it would happen, he was betrayed by his mentor, leader, and friend. Yes, i would have prefferd Optimus killed both him and Megs in battle, but either way both needed to die. Sentinel wasn't going to change his ways. And Megs truce came with a condition. So while a "fair fight" so to speak might have been preffered, i still believe O.Prime's behavior was completely justified.
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:04 pm

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Cobalt Prime wrote: It would have been one thing to use his omniscient powers over Hollywood to see that she never got another gig again AFTER TF3, in itself petty and vindictive, but at least he wouldn't have had to interrupt DOTM's story flow, leaving a quite obvious glitch.


I saw zero glitches in the story line related to Megan's Absence. personally, i couldn't see Mikeala in the same role as Carly. Mikeala'a character was a lot more rough around the edges than Carly and wouldn't have fit in as Dylan's personal assistant.

I also find it funny that while so many complained about the bots not having enough screen time, there's so much fuss over the absence of a human character. ;)
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby Cobalt Prime » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:16 pm

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Cobalt Prime wrote: It would have been one thing to use his omniscient powers over Hollywood to see that she never got another gig again AFTER TF3, in itself petty and vindictive, but at least he wouldn't have had to interrupt DOTM's story flow, leaving a quite obvious glitch.


I saw zero glitches in the story line related to Megan's Absence. personally, i couldn't see Mikeala in the same role as Carly. Mikeala'a character was a lot more rough around the edges than Carly and wouldn't have fit in as Dylan's personal assistant.

I also find it funny that while so many complained about the bots not having enough screen time, there's so much fuss over the absence of a human character. ;)


Of course, bear in mind that if Mikaela WAS in the third movie, the story would have been written with her "rough around the edges" persona in mind. Several elements would have changed as a result, including the high class museum part.
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby featofstrength » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:20 pm

totally agree with the original poster...Megan replaced by tire-lips killed what little the trilogy had to offer as far as human involvement. And Megatron's defeated in a new time-record!
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby Bonecrusher27 » Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:44 am

shamone wrote:
in what world was she like that.

She stuck with sam when he went to college out of state. She was putting herself in front of a webcam to have a chat with sam whilst he was off gallivanting at his party. Most women as hot as megan fox/mikaela, dont spend their weekends having web chats wih they boyf.

She was loyal to sam, she defended bumblebee in LA/mission city.


And bay to quote myself, acted like the guy who got dumped and then tells all his friends, oh she was mental, she wasnt that hot, she smelt, etc. Its a douche move, a childish petty sad pathetic slur on another human and unbecoming of a man of his age.



Actually I was really surprised he did that. Then again from what I've read and even listening to some of his movie commentaries, I always did think there were certain aspects to the man that are pretty immature. Not that anyone else is perfect, mind. I'm sure we all act out. But the more powerful you are, the greater the scale in which you can act out I suppose :-?
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Re: Spoilers: Unhappy About Megan and Megatron

Postby Mizuno » Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:11 am

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I watched the movie yesterday for a second time and something cought my eye... perhaps i'm drawing lines here but IMHO its something which COULD explain megatrons change in attitude at the end of the movie.

In fact it was hinted at the beginiing of the movie and even in ROTF XD

Did anyone notice how megs took care of the hatchlings in the scene where he meets up with starscream?
He was alone in a somewhat shabby looking camp and tending to the rest of the hatchlings which did made it through rotf, perhaps in that time he started to think and doubt his actions ^^

which could explain why he offered peace to optimus and perhaps his request was genuine.

alas with megatron you'll never know for sure ^^
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