Page 1 of 2

Starscream a Girl in France?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:19 am
by Archibald Witwicky
I'm sure there are atleast a few people here who either post or lurk at ScansDaily on Livejournal. Recently this post appeared there: http://community.livejournal.com/scans_ ... tml#cutid1

In it the poster makes a brief comment.

maryc wrote:If only they knew that Starscream is a girl. (In France.)


Can anyone shed some light on this for me? Was Starscream really considered a girl in any of the French continuities(I'm persuming the poster is refering to the French G1 comics).

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:21 am
by ShockwaveUK
I think I remember talk of Starscream being a girl in the French G1 toon. :-?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:38 am
by Leonardo
I read this one Wikipedia months ago, but I took it with a pinch of salt.

Re: Starscream a Girl in France?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:16 am
by Darth Bombshell
Archibald Witwicky wrote:Was Starscream really considered a girl in any of the French continuities(I'm persuming the poster is refering to the French G1 comics).


I'm not sure, but Shrapnel definitely was. (In the French dub of the movie, Kickback refers to him as "Mademoiselle Shrapnel.")

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:15 pm
by Leonardo
It's likely that Starscream was, then.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:00 pm
by Glyph
Yep, Starscream and Shrapnel were both femcons in the French dub. Leastways, Screamer was voiced by a female VA. The theme song is also great, in the sense of wonderfully, bizarrely French.

Samples here.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:08 pm
by Greed
And Megs x SS and Jetfire x SS shippers minds' go to the gutter.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:00 pm
by Nemesis_Apoc
I guess this is kinda related: something that always baffled me was the fact that BW Airazor is acutally a dude in the Japanese show. They explain her (well, his) and Tigatron's relationship as a strong brotherly bond. Ick. The one scene that really gets to me is the scene from Other Visits, Pt. One where they look at each other with passion in their eyes and embrace each other.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:43 pm
by Immortal Starscream
Nemesis_Apoc wrote:I guess this is kinda related: something that always baffled me was the fact that BW Airazor is acutally a dude in the Japanese show. They explain her (well, his) and Tigatron's relationship as a strong brotherly bond. Ick. The one scene that really gets to me is the scene from Other Visits, Pt. One where they look at each other with passion in their eyes and embrace each other.


well we turn some of thier guys into girls too. but i think they did this so that when they got fuzed into tigerhawk, people wouldnt be wondering he was supposed to be thier son, or a hermaphrodite

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:48 pm
by Nemesis_Apoc
Heh, heh... Hermaphrodite. :P
I always heard it was because the Japanese don't like female character that much. And what characters have we turned into girls?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:10 pm
by Archibald Witwicky
Nemesis_Apoc wrote:Heh, heh... Hermaphrodite. :P
I always heard it was because the Japanese don't like female character that much. And what characters have we turned into girls?


Cybertron Overdrive would be the most recent example.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:12 pm
by Nemesis_Apoc
I didn't know that. Are there any more?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:14 pm
by Greed
Nemesis_Apoc wrote:Heh, heh... Hermaphrodite. :P
I always heard it was because the Japanese don't like female character that much. And what characters have we turned into girls?

The Japanese are a very patriarchal society and likes to place women in lower positions than males.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:16 pm
by Nemesis_Apoc
Same as China.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:20 pm
by Greed
Nemesis_Apoc wrote:Same as China.

It only makes sense.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:57 pm
by SeekerInAFakeMoustache
Does anyone know the Frenchscream VA's name? I listened to the clips, and I actually really like the way she plays the role.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:08 pm
by Barricade
makes sence because back in the 70's/80's women were coming up in the world.....i couls see him being a woman trying to overthrow the power of a male leader

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:45 am
by Down_Shift
That makes everytime Megatron beat down Starscream that much more funny. When I was a young lad, I always thought Starscream was a girl, even in the US version. That Chris Latta had quite the odd voice to me as a 5 year old.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:06 pm
by Fang Wolf
I loled, I knew it but never heard the Clips till now, Starscream sounds like... cute O_O I'd hit that. Shrapnell... no, but Screamer, yeah. I wonder how BW is explained, her being in Waspinator's body... or is Waspy a girl their too?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:49 am
by Autobobby1
Starscream is a GIRL?! I think that my brain just melted...

That's weird, he looks nothing like a Femmecon! He has no feminine features. He's big and square and boxy, but Femmecons and Femmebots are usually smooth and rounded in design.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:21 pm
by Sunstar
Just lucky for me I can't read or speak french :P odd for a canadian. But canadian french is a dialect not real french.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:25 pm
by Down_Shift
Sunstar wrote:Just lucky for me I can't read or speak french :P odd for a canadian. But canadian french is a dialect not real french.


Damn separatists... that's all I have to contribute. :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:43 pm
by Basketball Jones
I wasn't certain of Starscream's gender when I watched the show as a child, but it's quite apparent now that he simply has a sort odd high-pitched British accent.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:51 pm
by Greed
SuperSaiyajinSasuke wrote:I loled, I knew it but never heard the Clips till now, Starscream sounds like... cute O_O I'd hit that. Shrapnell... no, but Screamer, yeah. I wonder how BW is explained, her being in Waspinator's body... or is Waspy a girl their too?

So very disturbing.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:15 pm
by Autobobby1
Greed wrote:
SuperSaiyajinSasuke wrote:I loled, I knew it but never heard the Clips till now, Starscream sounds like... cute O_O I'd hit that. Shrapnell... no, but Screamer, yeah. I wonder how BW is explained, her being in Waspinator's body... or is Waspy a girl their too?

So very disturbing.


That's an understatement. Waspy as a girl?! That almost made my brain explode.