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ok, since we're on the subject of revealing the hidden effects of each stat, i'm wondering what the rest of the stats not mentioned do secrectly. like courage, rank, & skill. (i know skill unlocks new abilities like intelligence does) but what's it really do.

also, i've been wondering about all those extra abilities described on the upgrade page. what's their purpose? i've never seen them used.

Jack Hallows wrote:ok, since we're on the subject of revealing the hidden effects of each stat, i'm wondering what the rest of the stats not mentioned do secrectly. like courage, rank, & skill. (i know skill unlocks new abilities like intelligence does) but what's it really do.

also, i've been wondering about all those extra abilities described on the upgrade page. what's their purpose? i've never seen them used.

For the most part, concerning the italicized stuff, nothing, since the game's never been finished from what I know, but I do miss more time than actually play, so I could be wrong.

*edit* But, speed is supposed to help your accuracy, and if memory serves, also helps with getting actions in the missions/arena.

Strength ups all weapon damage, as well as ram damage, and ups the ammount of armor you can wear.

rank unlocks more armor, and there was a rumor way back pre-Glyph that it made a bigger target on your back.

int ups repair and can unlock tactics on alts with hidden/locked ones.

fire power ups strafe, and better weapons

skill unlocks better weapons and unlocks hidden/locked tactics on alts with them

end ups your resistance to damage from tactics, and boosts how much a repair heals you for

courage ups how often you will ask the RNG to let you attack

I believe the mathmatical formula for the effects of stats on performance was something like (value/5)*.5 or something like that. I remember that the baseline was all fives in all stats, so anything under a five, is giving you penalties.

Thanks for all the info, it's good to finally get some of those mysteries cleared up! I have one more question... What's the deal with the Cyclone Gun? 4k for light to medium damage, with a recharge? I feel like there has to be some secret there. Or, is the secret that there is no secret?

Absolute Zero wrote:For the most part, concerning the italicized stuff, nothing, since the game's never been finished from what I know, but I do miss more time than actually play, so I could be wrong.

I think Glyph finished it but never updated the page, then the changes were lost ... or something like that.

*edit* But, speed is supposed to help your accuracy, and if memory serves, also helps with getting actions in the missions/arena.

Increases your accuracy and also throws off your opponents chances of hitting you.

Strength ups all weapon damage, as well as ram damage, and ups the ammount of armor you can wear.

Use to only up the melee weapons, but somewhere along the line it boosted all of them.

Hey Anshin, I got one for you to test.

Get yourself two bots, set them up in a similar manner but give one of them Five Courage.

This is going back many years ago, every time I had a bot (that's bot not 'bot) with five courage they completely sucked. Drop them down to four, or up them to six, and they performed better. I've always felt Five Courage to be "cursed".

I knew I was forgetting stuff...

That five courage, is that related to evens are better than odds?

It's something i've suspected but never bothered to prove.

this thread should be stickied.

oh, and ps. i heard that if you max out your int. you'll be able to figure out who really killed tupac & biggie.

but the feds don't want us to know that so

Jack Hallows wrote:this thread should be stickied.

oh, and ps. i heard that if you max out your int. you'll be able to figure out who really killed tupac & biggie.

but the feds don't want us to know that so

Some say that maxing out Int opens up the Autobot Hyper Mode

Absolute Zero wrote:I knew I was forgetting stuff...

That five courage, is that related to evens are better than odds?

This theory goes some way to explaining Cydonia's faltering form atm might have to keep a closer eye on him and compare him to crueljaw who is rapidly catching him

Burn wrote:Hey Anshin, I got one for you to test.

Get yourself two bots, set them up in a similar manner but give one of them Five Courage.

This is going back many years ago, every time I had a bot (that's bot not 'bot) with five courage they completely sucked. Drop them down to four, or up them to six, and they performed better. I've always felt Five Courage to be "cursed".

Already done, take a look at my builds and you will see that none have 5 courage. I can't prove it of course, but I have a suspect feeling that part of the RNG code that is built off of the game and determines fight/order ranks uses a baseline number set that is effected directly by the weight values associated with each character.

If five is the baseline stat for the game, it could be that it's either being treated as zero or there is an error in the coding that's not treating the negatives right.

Or it could just be that the RNG hates five courage.