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Capt.Failure wrote:

5150 Cruiser wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:Good to hear. Guy's a great composer and his themes for the series have become pretty iconic for them.

Also...

There are no themes, no moods. His music is purely as filler; it doesn't aid the story in any way.

Yay. More generic-epic-action music. So thrilling.

While people are entitled to opinions, both of you are wrong. Just thought I'd put that out there.

You sir, are correct.
Steve Jablonsky is a fantastic composer and has his scores are brought the perfect mood to each scene. Glad he's returning.

While I agree, I made the comment since the scores of the films do have a consistent, recognizable theme and specific pieces to set the mood of each scene and are far from generic. Their criticisms were the height of ignorance on the topic.

Claiming one's tastes in music are ignorant is rather, well, ignorant, dear sir. I've always been more of a fan of John Williams style of scoring, where the film can be told by simply listening to the music. Music sets the tone for everything and backs up all of the action, drama, and intensity (or lack thereof sometimes). The works in the Transformers movies never left me with any kind of impact at all. It felt, to me, as if you could copy and paste that music into any action movie, and it would fit...because it has a very generic feel to me. That's an opinion. Not an ignorant dismissal.

FracturedKoi wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:

5150 Cruiser wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:Good to hear. Guy's a great composer and his themes for the series have become pretty iconic for them.

Also...

There are no themes, no moods. His music is purely as filler; it doesn't aid the story in any way.

Yay. More generic-epic-action music. So thrilling.

While people are entitled to opinions, both of you are wrong. Just thought I'd put that out there.

You sir, are correct.
Steve Jablonsky is a fantastic composer and has his scores are brought the perfect mood to each scene. Glad he's returning.

While I agree, I made the comment since the scores of the films do have a consistent, recognizable theme and specific pieces to set the mood of each scene and are far from generic. Their criticisms were the height of ignorance on the topic.

Claiming one's tastes in music are ignorant is rather, well, ignorant, dear sir. I've always been more of a fan of John Williams style of scoring, where the film can be told by simply listening to the music. Music sets the tone for everything and backs up all of the action, drama, and intensity (or lack thereof sometimes). The works in the Transformers movies never left me with any kind of impact at all. It felt, to me, as if you could copy and paste that music into any action movie, and it would fit...because it has a very generic feel to me. That's an opinion. Not an ignorant dismissal.

And I will merely reiterate my statement. Just because you think it feels generic does not mean it is. There is subjective opinion and then there are facts. I think, for example, that the second film was a very enjoyable entry in the series. The fact is that it was still a very flawed and imperfect film.

The series had very defined themes in it's score and the inability to recognize them or distinguish them after three films from other scores means you either neglected to really pay attention to the score when viewing the film or are very ignorant on the topic of theme and variation in music. As for it sounding "generic," well that's just plain wrong. Jablonsky has his own individual style that's recognizable when he scores a film. If it's mistakable for anyone else's work it would be Hans Zimmer, which is acceptable since Zimmer practically taught Jablonsky everything he knows.

And that's the simple, non-subjective truth of the matter.

Capt.Failure wrote:

FracturedKoi wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:

5150 Cruiser wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:Good to hear. Guy's a great composer and his themes for the series have become pretty iconic for them.

Also...

There are no themes, no moods. His music is purely as filler; it doesn't aid the story in any way.

Yay. More generic-epic-action music. So thrilling.

While people are entitled to opinions, both of you are wrong. Just thought I'd put that out there.

You sir, are correct.
Steve Jablonsky is a fantastic composer and has his scores are brought the perfect mood to each scene. Glad he's returning.

While I agree, I made the comment since the scores of the films do have a consistent, recognizable theme and specific pieces to set the mood of each scene and are far from generic. Their criticisms were the height of ignorance on the topic.

Claiming one's tastes in music are ignorant is rather, well, ignorant, dear sir. I've always been more of a fan of John Williams style of scoring, where the film can be told by simply listening to the music. Music sets the tone for everything and backs up all of the action, drama, and intensity (or lack thereof sometimes). The works in the Transformers movies never left me with any kind of impact at all. It felt, to me, as if you could copy and paste that music into any action movie, and it would fit...because it has a very generic feel to me. That's an opinion. Not an ignorant dismissal.

And I will merely reiterate my statement. Just because you think it feels generic does not mean it is. There is subjective opinion and then there are facts. I think, for example, that the second film was a very enjoyable entry in the series. The fact is that it was still a very flawed and imperfect film.

The series had very defined themes in it's score and the inability to recognize them or distinguish them after three films from other scores means you either neglected to really pay attention to the score when viewing the film or are very ignorant on the topic of theme and variation in music. As for it sounding "generic," well that's just plain wrong. Jablonsky has his own individual style that's recognizable when he scores a film. If it's mistakable for anyone else's work it would be Hans Zimmer, which is acceptable since Zimmer practically taught Jablonsky everything he knows.

And that's the simple, non-subjective truth of the matter.

The simple, non-subjective, truth of the matter is that you like his work and I do not. Yes, there are themes throughout the three movies, however I stand by the my opinion (which is just that, my opinion) that you could edit this music into any recent action film and it would still fit. I've never been a fan of these films musical scores. Granted, I'm no fan of ROTF either, but I won't call you ignorant for embracing such a terrible waste of film.

Case in point, it's ignorant to call someone ignorant for voicing their opinions.

And no, I'm not calling you ignorant, just using that word since you like tossing it around so much =D

FracturedKoi wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:

FracturedKoi wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:

5150 Cruiser wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:Good to hear. Guy's a great composer and his themes for the series have become pretty iconic for them.

Also...

There are no themes, no moods. His music is purely as filler; it doesn't aid the story in any way.

Yay. More generic-epic-action music. So thrilling.

While people are entitled to opinions, both of you are wrong. Just thought I'd put that out there.

You sir, are correct.
Steve Jablonsky is a fantastic composer and has his scores are brought the perfect mood to each scene. Glad he's returning.

While I agree, I made the comment since the scores of the films do have a consistent, recognizable theme and specific pieces to set the mood of each scene and are far from generic. Their criticisms were the height of ignorance on the topic.

Claiming one's tastes in music are ignorant is rather, well, ignorant, dear sir. I've always been more of a fan of John Williams style of scoring, where the film can be told by simply listening to the music. Music sets the tone for everything and backs up all of the action, drama, and intensity (or lack thereof sometimes). The works in the Transformers movies never left me with any kind of impact at all. It felt, to me, as if you could copy and paste that music into any action movie, and it would fit...because it has a very generic feel to me. That's an opinion. Not an ignorant dismissal.

And I will merely reiterate my statement. Just because you think it feels generic does not mean it is. There is subjective opinion and then there are facts. I think, for example, that the second film was a very enjoyable entry in the series. The fact is that it was still a very flawed and imperfect film.

The series had very defined themes in it's score and the inability to recognize them or distinguish them after three films from other scores means you either neglected to really pay attention to the score when viewing the film or are very ignorant on the topic of theme and variation in music. As for it sounding "generic," well that's just plain wrong. Jablonsky has his own individual style that's recognizable when he scores a film. If it's mistakable for anyone else's work it would be Hans Zimmer, which is acceptable since Zimmer practically taught Jablonsky everything he knows.

And that's the simple, non-subjective truth of the matter.

The simple, non-subjective, truth of the matter is that you like his work and I do not. Yes, there are themes throughout the three movies, however I stand by the my opinion (which is just that, my opinion) that you could edit this music into any recent action film and it would still fit. I've never been a fan of these films musical scores. Granted, I'm no fan of ROTF either, but I won't call you ignorant for embracing such a terrible waste of film.

Case in point, it's ignorant to call someone ignorant for voicing their opinions.

And no, I'm not calling you ignorant, just using that word since you like tossing it around so much =D

Since I'm being charitable and correcting the ignorant I'll be nice and inform you that you're use of the word is rather flawed. Now take your little passive aggressive attitude to somewhere else please. We're adults here and that clearly leaves you out of the conversation.

Girls, girls, you're both pretty.

The scores are great and far from generic, but he's free to dislike them all he wants. Can't we just leave it at that?

FracturedKoi wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:

FracturedKoi wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:

5150 Cruiser wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:Good to hear. Guy's a great composer and his themes for the series have become pretty iconic for them.

Also...

There are no themes, no moods. His music is purely as filler; it doesn't aid the story in any way.

Yay. More generic-epic-action music. So thrilling.

While people are entitled to opinions, both of you are wrong. Just thought I'd put that out there.

You sir, are correct.
Steve Jablonsky is a fantastic composer and has his scores are brought the perfect mood to each scene. Glad he's returning.

While I agree, I made the comment since the scores of the films do have a consistent, recognizable theme and specific pieces to set the mood of each scene and are far from generic. Their criticisms were the height of ignorance on the topic.

Claiming one's tastes in music are ignorant is rather, well, ignorant, dear sir. I've always been more of a fan of John Williams style of scoring, where the film can be told by simply listening to the music. Music sets the tone for everything and backs up all of the action, drama, and intensity (or lack thereof sometimes). The works in the Transformers movies never left me with any kind of impact at all. It felt, to me, as if you could copy and paste that music into any action movie, and it would fit...because it has a very generic feel to me. That's an opinion. Not an ignorant dismissal.

And I will merely reiterate my statement. Just because you think it feels generic does not mean it is. There is subjective opinion and then there are facts. I think, for example, that the second film was a very enjoyable entry in the series. The fact is that it was still a very flawed and imperfect film.

The series had very defined themes in it's score and the inability to recognize them or distinguish them after three films from other scores means you either neglected to really pay attention to the score when viewing the film or are very ignorant on the topic of theme and variation in music. As for it sounding "generic," well that's just plain wrong. Jablonsky has his own individual style that's recognizable when he scores a film. If it's mistakable for anyone else's work it would be Hans Zimmer, which is acceptable since Zimmer practically taught Jablonsky everything he knows.

And that's the simple, non-subjective truth of the matter.

The simple, non-subjective, truth of the matter is that you like his work and I do not. Yes, there are themes throughout the three movies, however I stand by the my opinion (which is just that, my opinion) that you could edit this music into any recent action film and it would still fit. I've never been a fan of these films musical scores. Granted, I'm no fan of ROTF either, but I won't call you ignorant for embracing such a terrible waste of film.

Case in point, it's ignorant to call someone ignorant for voicing their opinions.

And no, I'm not calling you ignorant, just using that word since you like tossing it around so much =D

Now that is ignorance. Just because you think it's a "terrible waste of film" doesn't mean it is. If even any one person in the world enjoyed it, then it wasn't a waste. Because it did it's job.

Seriously? Okay, to clarify, my first post was heavily sarcasm laden. I was called ignorant for said comment, I'll grant that sarcasm doesn't carry over well in text though. So I thought, ok, I'll state my opinion, because, hey, we're all entitled to our own opinions right? Having an opinion shouldn't make someone any more or less ignorant than anyone else. Tomato, "tomahto"...same thing. Neither is right, neither is wrong.

Because it's a personal opinion. What strikes one person emotionally in music, literature, or photography, might fall completely flat on someone else. There's no ignorance in that at all.

I like oranges, you like pomegranate. Sure, most people thing pomegranate's are a royal pain in the arse to eat, but that doesn't make you wrong for loving them. xD

To be clear, I haven't called anyone here ignorant, nor did I intend to! Again, sarcasm doesn't carry well through text.

Now, please, let's end this amicably and stop it with all the name-slinging?

Evil_the_Nub wrote:Girls, girls, you're both pretty.

The scores are great and far from generic, but he's free to dislike them all he wants. Can't we just leave it at that?

I'm not pretty. I'm FABULOUS!

noctorro wrote:I'm one of them, so annoying that TF3 score hasn't come out yet on cd. I might have to iTunes that. I dislike apple stuff

you can find them on amazon MP3 download.

I'm happy with that.his musics give the movies a feel like none other.
Here is one of my favorites.

Knock off the bickering.

You're free to ignore that warning if you want, but trust me, you won't like what happens next.