SlyTF1 wrote:So, aliens have similar body functions to humans? Your point?
Robots shouldn't cry, piss, spit, or fart.
They also shouldn't have testicles, hump Megan Fox's leg, or try to have sex with Shia. That was just... wtf.
SlyTF1 wrote:So, aliens have similar body functions to humans? Your point?
RiddlerJ wrote:Each one will come with an autographed picture of Michael Bay sitting on top of a huge pile of money.
cotss2012 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:So, aliens have similar body functions to humans? Your point?
Robots shouldn't cry, piss, spit, or fart.
They also shouldn't have testicles, hump Megan Fox's leg, or try to have sex with Shia. That was just... wtf.
cotss2012 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:So, aliens have similar body functions to humans? Your point?
Robots shouldn't cry, piss, spit, or fart.
They also shouldn't have testicles, hump Megan Fox's leg, or try to have sex with Shia. That was just... wtf.
Burn wrote:cotss2012 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:So, aliens have similar body functions to humans? Your point?
Robots shouldn't cry, piss, spit, or fart.
They also shouldn't have testicles, hump Megan Fox's leg, or try to have sex with Shia. That was just... wtf.
Why not?
cotss2012 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:So, aliens have similar body functions to humans? Your point?
Robots shouldn't cry, piss, spit, or fart.
They also shouldn't have testicles, hump Megan Fox's leg, or try to have sex with Shia. That was just... wtf.
Treetop Maximus wrote:This brings me to another point. People constantly claim that Optimus Prime doesn't take lives. (Warning: G1 Movie and Cybertron spoilers ahead for those of you who are new or just haven't seen this stuff yet!) Optimus Prime has been willing to kill in other continuities. In the 1986 movie, everyone's beloved G1 Optimus Prime clearly would have killed Megatron had Hot Rod not stepped in.
Treetop Maximus wrote: Optimus points his gun directly at Megatron. When Hot Rod tackles Megatron, Optimus clearly tells him "Out of the way, Hot Rod." He wouldn't have said that if he hadn't been planning to fire at Megatron.
chrisc4 wrote:in '86 movie optimus arrives in autobot city and practically blasts every single decepticon in his way. i think the mood for optimus was perfect for the movie. he was pissed. and honestly, i dont blame him one bit.
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Rodimus Prime wrote:In the first film he was very much G1-like. He was tough and sensible but basically got his ass kicked by Megatron until Sam stepped in.
In RotF he was let loose, and I was happy about it. I thought, "Wow, he finally grew some balls."
In DotM it was ratcheted up (no pun intended) even more, and IMO over the top. He was basically a Decepticon. No matter what the argument is, there was no distinction between he and Sentinel, other than the fact that one lived and the other died.
Overall, after taking of my G1 goggles, I approve of this Optimus Prime, largely because he was the central Autobot character. He had to show up and he did. He wasn't just a punching bag. However, his character revised what it means to be an Autobot.
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WasPWNator wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:In the first film he was very much G1-like. He was tough and sensible but basically got his ass kicked by Megatron until Sam stepped in.
In RotF he was let loose, and I was happy about it. I thought, "Wow, he finally grew some balls."
In DotM it was ratcheted up (no pun intended) even more, and IMO over the top. He was basically a Decepticon. No matter what the argument is, there was no distinction between he and Sentinel, other than the fact that one lived and the other died.
Overall, after taking of my G1 goggles, I approve of this Optimus Prime, largely because he was the central Autobot character. He had to show up and he did. He wasn't just a punching bag. However, his character revised what it means to be an Autobot.
I kind of agree; my problem with him isn't that he kills Decepticons - it's war, that's what you do. My issue is more that he's just kind of a d*ck to everyone around him. Plus he explicitly tells Ironhide in the 2007 movie that 'we don't kill humans', and then goes on to be responsible for several civilan casualties, through a combination of willful neglect and clumsiness. And sure, collateral damage is to be expected, but what bothers me is that he doesn't really seem to care all that much, or even acknowledge it.
I don't think movie Prime is bad, I just think there are some incongruities in his personality, laregly due to scriptwriting oversights I suppose...
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:WasPWNator wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:In the first film he was very much G1-like. He was tough and sensible but basically got his ass kicked by Megatron until Sam stepped in.
In RotF he was let loose, and I was happy about it. I thought, "Wow, he finally grew some balls."
In DotM it was ratcheted up (no pun intended) even more, and IMO over the top. He was basically a Decepticon. No matter what the argument is, there was no distinction between he and Sentinel, other than the fact that one lived and the other died.
Overall, after taking of my G1 goggles, I approve of this Optimus Prime, largely because he was the central Autobot character. He had to show up and he did. He wasn't just a punching bag. However, his character revised what it means to be an Autobot.
I kind of agree; my problem with him isn't that he kills Decepticons - it's war, that's what you do. My issue is more that he's just kind of a d*ck to everyone around him. Plus he explicitly tells Ironhide in the 2007 movie that 'we don't kill humans', and then goes on to be responsible for several civilan casualties, through a combination of willful neglect and clumsiness. And sure, collateral damage is to be expected, but what bothers me is that he doesn't really seem to care all that much, or even acknowledge it.
I don't think movie Prime is bad, I just think there are some incongruities in his personality, laregly due to scriptwriting oversights I suppose...
Actually, I have a slightly different take on this.
If only Ironhide's death had been played up a little more, his violence would have been more justified. His old friend, his comrade in arms, shot in the back by one of their own. Even the most rational and peace-loving leader would call for blood.
covenant_of_unicron wrote:Not to mention that this version of Prime allowed God only knows how many civilian casualties because he needed to "teach the humans a lesson about Deceptiocons". It seems to me that the only lesson is that being an Autobot stands for nothing.
biotron wrote:covenant_of_unicron wrote:Not to mention that this version of Prime allowed God only knows how many civilian casualties because he needed to "teach the humans a lesson about Deceptiocons". It seems to me that the only lesson is that being an Autobot stands for nothing.
But Prime, along with the rest of the Autobots, had of course just been banished from Earth by the government. So what were his options? He could have decided NOT to concoct a secret plan for them to stow away in a booster rocket, in which case he and the rest of the Autobots would have been destroyed in the Starscreem attack. In which case the Decepticons would have won, and there'd have been a far more than just a bit of human 'collatoral damage'.
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