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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby vegetacron » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:11 am

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Cheesinator wrote:After Megatron tosses Sentinel aside, there's a close up of him and he says "What we need is a truce. All that I ask is that I retain my command...after all, what would you be without me?".

Prime responds with "I'm about to find out!" and then kills him.

There's no blaring music playing either. Not sure how you missed those lines.



But thats, yet another issue ive had with all these movies. Its like the people doing the music said, "Dialogue!? Who needs DIALOGUE when we have all this badass momentic music!? DUN-DUN-DA-DUN-DUN-DUH DA DUH DA DUN DUN!..."

The only thing i heard Megatron say is "...retain my command...after all, what would you be without me?"

But thats not just with this movie, thats with all of them. I tend to think Hugo Weaving pissed off the sound editors at some point, so the sound editors literally drown out half of his voice acting just to be dickheads. rofl
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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby Pot Bot » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:40 am

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Cheesinator wrote:After Megatron tosses Sentinel aside, there's a close up of him and he says "What we need is a truce. All that I ask is that I retain my command...after all, what would you be without me?".

Prime responds with "I'm about to find out!" and then kills him.

There's no blaring music playing either. Not sure how you missed those lines.



But thats, yet another issue ive had with all these movies. Its like the people doing the music said, "Dialogue!? Who needs DIALOGUE when we have all this badass momentic music!? DUN-DUN-DA-DUN-DUN-DUH DA DUH DA DUN DUN!..."

The only thing i heard Megatron say is "...retain my command...after all, what would you be without me?"

But thats not just with this movie, thats with all of them. I tend to think Hugo Weaving pissed off the sound editors at some point, so the sound editors literally drown out half of his voice acting just to be dickheads. rofl


Im glad im not the only one who didnt hear it. As Veg said, i heard nothing in that part apart from "what would you do without me", the lad i was with saw it tuesday night, and wednesday night and he heard the same, perhaps your Cinema has clearer sound than ours, but im seeing it again on tuesday so i'll listen again
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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby Autobot Strider » Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:56 am

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Personally I don't have any problems with OP's portrayal. I mean, yeah, he's alot more violent than the G1 incarnation, but they are living in a much more violent "adult-themed" continutity. I think if Optimus had been more noble, it would have seemed a bit weak, considering the circumstances.

Now, I haven't seen DOTM yet, so I'm not sure how that will play into my opinion of him, but I liked that he was "harder" in these movies. Does OP take it too far in DOTM? I'll find out soon I guess.

As for what it means to be an Autobot in the movie-verse... just look at in the first movie, when Ironhide wants to exterminate Mojo, and then Sam's parents for being annoying. Would that have ever come up in a G1 episode? I don't think so.... ;)
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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby chrisc4 » Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:17 am

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in '86 movie optimus arrives in autobot city and practically blasts every single decepticon in his way. i think the mood for optimus was perfect for the movie. he was pissed. and honestly, i dont blame him one bit.
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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby Starscream GaGa » Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:48 am

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God this forum is like clockwork...

"Blah, blah, blah, Bayformers isn't a children's cartoon it's for adults and MATURE. We have no sense of humor. Let's make a million long-winded threads about how haters are wrong."

This is the second one in one day.
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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby Autobot Strider » Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:03 am

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It occured to me that G1 characters and movie characters are about as different as the "John Wayne" style cowboys VS the "Clint Eastwood" style ones... both are heroic figures, but very different in tone and in how they accomplish their goals.
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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Sat Jul 02, 2011 2:07 pm

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Starscream GaGa wrote:God this forum is like clockwork...

"Blah, blah, blah, Bayformers isn't a children's cartoon it's for adults and MATURE. We have no sense of humor. Let's make a million long-winded threads about how haters are wrong."

This is the second one in one day.

In the weeks before DOTM, there were several Rotf hate threads, (not to mention you starting one) and you didnt seem to have a problem voicing your opinion in nearly all of them. At least this movie is new and relevent.
One things for sure. Like Bay or not, this is one time he did not lie. He stated that when a characters were killed, you were going to care. Concidering we have serverl threads on the matter provesbhe was right. You don't have to agree with how they died or Optimus behavior, but you can't deny it had an affect.
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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby covenant_of_unicron » Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:33 am

Okay, as a fan of TF and prime for the better part of thirty years I feel I have to put my two cents in.

Optimus has always been a warrior, and yes that means sometimes killing an enemy. The difference I see is that the Bayformer prime is apathetic about violence at best and bloodthirsty at worst. A few key moments stand out in my mind such as killing an unarmed enemy in cold blood in Revenge of the fallen. Again in that movie after already defeating The Fallen he then goes one step too far and rips the face off of him. Are we trying to state that maybe Prime has PTSD and is going a bit over the top? That didn't set well with me for a while and then I saw DOTM, wow just wow. Here we have a Prime that not only shoots a foe in the head that was begging for his life, but he brutally kills Megatron moments after having his life saved by him. Not to mention that this version of Prime allowed God only knows how many civilian casualties because he needed to "teach the humans a lesson about Deceptiocons". It seems to me that the only lesson is that being an Autobot stands for nothing.

Granted this was a "adult oriented" movie, but can you honestly say that this movie wasn't geared towards children? Take one look down the toy store aisle and tell me that it was made for adults. You may think this is stupid and out dated, but kids learn from watching their heroes. This Prime has put some really dark, vengeful ideas in kids heads about what the good guys are supposed to be.

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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby cotss2012 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:44 pm

On the list of things that are wrong with the Bayverse (continuity errors, enemy scrotum, etc.), Prime's slight personality tweaks rank very, very, very low.

Tekka wrote:Also, If I had to blame a character, I'd blame Megatron for not taking out Prime while he was down.


Megatron has a habit of doing this. I'm reminded of the line "We'll terminate the Autobots at our leisure, when our more important work is done." He also repeated Hitler's Dunkirk blunder at least once with "Hey Starscream, let the Autobots win so I can kill them with acid rain instead"

Cheesinator wrote:After Megatron tosses Sentinel aside, there's a close up of him and he says "What we need is a truce. All that I ask is that I retain my command...after all, what would you be without me?".

Prime responds with "I'm about to find out!" and then kills him.


Close.

Megatron: "We need a truce. All I want is to be back in charge. Besides, who would you be without me?"

Optimus: "Time to find out."

It sounds like Megatron wants Optimus to serve him while the human slaves rebuild Cybertron, and Optimus sure wasn't about to put up with that.

Autobot Strider wrote:As for what it means to be an Autobot in the movie-verse... just look at in the first movie, when Ironhide wants to exterminate Mojo, and then Sam's parents for being annoying. Would that have ever come up in a G1 episode? I don't think so.... ;)


Indeed, Ironhide was much more out-of-character than Optimus ever was. THAT bugged me... but not as much as "you know we don't harm humans" literally minutes after they've arrived on an unknown alien planet for the very first time.

covenant_of_unicron wrote:Granted this was a "adult oriented" movie, but can you honestly say that this movie wasn't geared towards children? Take one look down the toy store aisle and tell me that it was made for adults.


The MPAA rating indicates that it's aimed at the 13+ crowd.
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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby Aximalli_Prime » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:51 am

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I never really minded him in the movieverse. I think his level of violence made the character more heroic and epic, and just more interesting to watch. :BOT:
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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby Slashercon » Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:28 pm

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Chupacabra Convoy wrote:While Megatron did call for a truce at the end, I'm not sure how it would work exactly. I mean would Megatron still call for the human race to be slaves to fix Cybertron? Also, considering how vastly out numbered the Autobots are, wouldn't any truce be more like a formal surrender than actual truce? It goes against Prime's main goal which was to work with humanity to protect them from the Decepticons, which was the idea from the first movie.

Further more, if Prime had accepted, it doesn't mean that the rest of the planet would've followed suit. The relationship with the humans was all ready tenuous at best. If Optimus had accepted a truce with Megatron leading both forces, then the Autobots as a whole, would've been lumped in with the cons. At that point, if I was POTUS, my finger would've been the button (IE: Launching Nukes at Chicago[I would be more triggerhappy, than Triggerhappy]). So that's one reason for killing Megatron and Sentinel Prime.

The other? They started the war. A war which caused them to cripple Cybertron. In most cases, any Megatrons' post civil war plans always involve turing Cybertron into a mobile planetary fortress to be the heart of his intergalactic empire. I am going out on a limb and assume Movie Megatron's plans were the same. Also, Sentinel and Megatron share the view that all Transformers are gods compared to anything else. So even if a truce was made, I don't think either of them would've tolerated taking orders from humanity. Prime doesn't share that view at all. Even if Humanity hates his race, he still views it as a personal responsibility to protect them. Their (Megatron's and Prime's )ideologies are just too opposite from each other to be in a peacefully coexistence for anything longer than a short amount of time. Much like Magneto and Xavier.

On a personal level, Prime (I think) was too disgusted with them to even consider a truce. He just had to destroy his home world because of them, and their ambitions. There might've been a chance to someday work towards fixing Cybertron, but now thanks to them, not only are the Transformers nearly extinct, but any hope of restoring Cybertron looks to be over, finished. In Prime's mind, if Sentinel choose to reward the Autobots' faith in Sentinel, they might've been able to win the war with the space bridge tech, but he choose to betray them. Also Megatron's mad ambition had finally went too far. Everything Prime had ever believed in or cherished was destroyed by them. After millions of years of that, I would hate them more than anything for turning me into a warmonger by default and for damn near killing everyone I ever knew. He knows what happens when two Hitlers are allowed to live. Did they show remorse? Yes, but no amount remorse shown by them justifies their continued existence.

Also, after 27 years, it is great to see Prime end it.




I think you said everything that needed to be said about the ending to DOTM. I'm still dissapointed in the ending. But i have a better perspective on the matter now.
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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby Slashercon » Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:33 pm

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Cheesinator wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:No no no...

Sentinel got hit like, 3 times and had his hat knocked off. He shot friends in the back.

Megatron just 10 seconds earlier betrayed his greatest partnership.

In a good dojo, students are taught that "Dead tigers are the ones that kill you." Meaning that it's the battles you assume you've won that are easily lost. Good for Prime to finish what had to be done.


I'm not debating whether they deserved to die (they did). I'm saying that when Optimus them, they were no longer threats: Megatron was definitely not going to kill Optimus. He had the opportunity to let Optimus die, and he chose to save him. He then had the opportunity to kill an injured Optimus, and chose not to. Plus, his army was utterly defeated and the grand scheme had failed.

Similarly, Sentinel was beaten to the point he couldn't even get up. Optimus had time to have a ridiculous conversation with Megatron, kill him, get Megatron's gun and then exchange a few words with Sentinel...by which point Sentinel could still barely prop himself up with his arms. He was not a threat.

The point is, this was a movie; it's generally fine to kill the villains, but very rarely are they in a situation like Megatron or Sentinel. I can't think of another scenario where the bad guy saves the hero, offers a truce and is brutally killed anyway (by the 'hero' supposedly being a through-and-through good guy).




Megatron's tone of voice sure didn't sound like he was serious about that truce (unlike in the comic where he is very saddened and serious).
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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby cotss2012 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:40 pm

Another thing that bugs me: G1 Optimus, as fond as he was of Earth and humans, was still loyal to Cybertron and the future of the Transformers, above all else. Bayverse Optimus didn't give a moment's pause or shed a single tear at Cybertron's annihilation.
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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:56 pm

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cotss2012 wrote:Another thing that bugs me: G1 Optimus, as fond as he was of Earth and humans, was still loyal to Cybertron and the future of the Transformers, above all else. Bayverse Optimus didn't give a moment's pause or shed a single tear at Cybertron's annihilation.

I don't think Transformers can cry. The way I see it is Optimus accepted that Cybertron is gone centuries ago. He would like to see it restored, but not if it's going to cost another race.
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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby SlyTF1 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:03 pm

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Evil_the_Nub wrote:
cotss2012 wrote:Another thing that bugs me: G1 Optimus, as fond as he was of Earth and humans, was still loyal to Cybertron and the future of the Transformers, above all else. Bayverse Optimus didn't give a moment's pause or shed a single tear at Cybertron's annihilation.

I don't think Transformers can cry. The way I see it is Optimus accepted that Cybertron is gone centuries ago. He would like to see it restored, but not if it's going to cost another race.



Bumblebee cried in ROTF. Optimus also gave a pause in ROTF when he was talking to Sam in the graveyard.
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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby cotss2012 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:41 pm

SlyTF1 wrote:
Evil_the_Nub wrote:
cotss2012 wrote:Another thing that bugs me: G1 Optimus, as fond as he was of Earth and humans, was still loyal to Cybertron and the future of the Transformers, above all else. Bayverse Optimus didn't give a moment's pause or shed a single tear at Cybertron's annihilation.

I don't think Transformers can cry. The way I see it is Optimus accepted that Cybertron is gone centuries ago. He would like to see it restored, but not if it's going to cost another race.



Bumblebee cried in ROTF. Optimus also gave a pause in ROTF when he was talking to Sam in the graveyard.


Not counting all the times we've seen them piss, spit, fart...
I do not blame Michael Bay for crapping all over a huge part of my childhood. He just directed the scripts that were given to him. I blame Orci, Kurtzman, and Krueger, who seem completely incapable of concocting a story that even halfway makes sense.

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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby SlyTF1 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:52 pm

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cotss2012 wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
Evil_the_Nub wrote:
cotss2012 wrote:Another thing that bugs me: G1 Optimus, as fond as he was of Earth and humans, was still loyal to Cybertron and the future of the Transformers, above all else. Bayverse Optimus didn't give a moment's pause or shed a single tear at Cybertron's annihilation.

I don't think Transformers can cry. The way I see it is Optimus accepted that Cybertron is gone centuries ago. He would like to see it restored, but not if it's going to cost another race.



Bumblebee cried in ROTF. Optimus also gave a pause in ROTF when he was talking to Sam in the graveyard.


Not counting all the times we've seen them piss, spit, fart...


So, aliens have similar body functions to humans? Your point?
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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:09 pm

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cotss2012 wrote:Another thing that bugs me: G1 Optimus, as fond as he was of Earth and humans, was still loyal to Cybertron and the future of the Transformers, above all else. Bayverse Optimus didn't give a moment's pause or shed a single tear at Cybertron's annihilation.

I don't think Transformers can cry. The way I see it is Optimus accepted that Cybertron is gone centuries ago. He would like to see it restored, but not if it's going to cost another race.



Bumblebee cried in ROTF.

Oh yeah I forgot about that. Although I think he was just playing it up.
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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby SlyTF1 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:31 pm

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Evil_the_Nub wrote:
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Evil_the_Nub wrote:
cotss2012 wrote:Another thing that bugs me: G1 Optimus, as fond as he was of Earth and humans, was still loyal to Cybertron and the future of the Transformers, above all else. Bayverse Optimus didn't give a moment's pause or shed a single tear at Cybertron's annihilation.

I don't think Transformers can cry. The way I see it is Optimus accepted that Cybertron is gone centuries ago. He would like to see it restored, but not if it's going to cost another race.



Bumblebee cried in ROTF.

Oh yeah I forgot about that. Although I think he was just playing it up.


He cried when Sam died too. Well, you didn't see tears, but you could hear him...
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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby reluttr » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:24 am

Tekka wrote:What I don't agree with is the apparent five second anti-climactic death he was given, instead of having a Megatron VS Prime epic battle that such a beloved character deserved to go out in. In my opinion.


Ehh, by that point megatron was not exactly in his "prime". It would had ended in a similar manner regardless, Even if prime had given him a fair chance to defend himself.


As far as the decepticon forces being completely destroyed. Thanks to the Marvel comics and Japanese tv episodes, bay has SEVERAL storylines to puzzle in as a expansion to the third movie.

Basically here they are....

-Jhiaxus, basically make it where they was a faction of conquesting decepticons that splintered off from the main branch when megatron went on his mad search for the cube. After the recent destruction of cybertron it peaked warlord jhiaxus's interest in what caused the utter destruction of his home world and has journeyed to earth to steal what ever weapon or technology could do this.

-Overlord, Similar story to Jhiaxus. But make it where megatron wanted to create colony's offworld of cybertron to expand the decepticon reach and act as a backup plan if anything should ever happen to megatron or the main empire on cybertron. They could even work in black zarak this way by making it where after the cons settled on a planet they converted their space ship into a transforming base and weapon of mass destruction.

The interesting thing about this storyline would be that it could even have a plot twist where devil-z had actually taken over the colony and was using powermasters to control overlord, and devil z himself using his new "technology" had even integrated himself so that he could control the decepticon city/ship/ultimate weapon mech and everything inside it. Adding a larger sense of Big Brother to this off-world decepticon colony. The big climax to the movie being when the autobots discover the true one in charge is a old decaying cyborg inside this gigantic robots head.

-Unicron, yes unicron, Hasbros all time favorite god bot. There really needs to be no explaining here. Basically it involves making Galvatron from the remains of the various dead cons from movie 3. Here is the kicker, galvatron is insane, mostly due to the fact that he also has the 3 corrupted personalitys of the dead cons he was made from... Being megatron, starscream, and shockwave. Fun right?

Of course it could just be a huge mish mash of all 3. Which could work, replace devil z with unicrons spark, Have jhiaxus and overlord be co-generals, and have unicron make shock/scream/tron as a third power in his trio of doom.
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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby cotss2012 » Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:43 am

SlyTF1 wrote:So, aliens have similar body functions to humans? Your point?


Robots shouldn't cry, piss, spit, or fart.

They also shouldn't have testicles, hump Megan Fox's leg, or try to have sex with Shia. That was just... wtf.
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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby Burn » Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:04 am

cotss2012 wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:So, aliens have similar body functions to humans? Your point?


Robots shouldn't cry, piss, spit, or fart.

They also shouldn't have testicles, hump Megan Fox's leg, or try to have sex with Shia. That was just... wtf.


Why not?
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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby BeastProwl » Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:16 am

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cotss2012 wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:So, aliens have similar body functions to humans? Your point?


Robots shouldn't cry, piss, spit, or fart.

They also shouldn't have testicles, hump Megan Fox's leg, or try to have sex with Shia. That was just... wtf.

Bumblebee's "Crying" Was a totallycontrolled function, just a show of sadness, not REAL Tears, Bumblebee's peeing was Radiator Fluid, I believe. The spitting (done all too often by starscream) Was often a show of dis-respect, and I'm guessing it was the same when Leadfoot spit after tearing apart that protoform. When optimus spit, it was because he had a chunk of metal wedged in his mouth. Jetfire's "Fart" Was the parrachute mechanism going off, not gas, and as for Devistator's testicles, well, A show of comedy, really, but can be explained as "That's just were they go when I transform". Alice was trying to Saduce sam in order to get him in a co-operaative enough state to kill him off, nothing actually sexual there, though that kiss just goes to show how far decepticons will go to get what they want.
As for wheelie's leg humping.............
There really isn't a way to explain it, but in DOTM, Brains is pretty perverted too. I'm guessing they're both pretty deep into earth behaviour by then, and seeing as how wheelie's first up close and personal experience on earth was with mikaila's dog, maybe he studied it in his databanks long enough to know that (To a dog) When you like someone enough, you fornicate with their leg? Thats the best Iv'e got for wheelie.
Hope all that helps you shed some light on the why's and how's.
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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby SlyTF1 » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:19 am

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cotss2012 wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:So, aliens have similar body functions to humans? Your point?


Robots shouldn't cry, piss, spit, or fart.

They also shouldn't have testicles, hump Megan Fox's leg, or try to have sex with Shia. That was just... wtf.


Why not?


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Re: Still complaining about Movieverse Optimus Prime?

Postby F Prime » Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:05 pm

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cotss2012 wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:So, aliens have similar body functions to humans? Your point?


Robots shouldn't cry, piss, spit, or fart.

They also shouldn't have testicles, hump Megan Fox's leg, or try to have sex with Shia. That was just... wtf.



That robots may or may not have these biological functions is not what bothers me the most. I just wish Bay didn't feel the need to showcase it. But, it looks like some individuals found it entertaining and I am not the only fan in the crowd...
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