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Stupid Surrender Scene

Postby Bonecrusher27 » Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:06 am

After watching DOTM yet again, I realised that in spite of the little dissatisfactions, such as Megatron's 3 second literally sudden death, disses at Megan Fox and screwing with continuity, Ironhide's death etc etc, the one scene that disturbed me most throughout all three times I watched it, was that surrender scene where the Autobots are literally kneeling with hands behind their heads, looking completely cowed and subdued.


There were no visible means of restraining the Autobots as far as I could see, just guns pointed.

No one moved or made any attempt to save Q from execution.

BB didn't make ANY attempt to fight back when Soundwave was about to execute him.

All these things were surreal enough.

But when Optimus Prime 'rescues' them, that's what really drives the point home, because it proves they weren't incapacitated or even disarmed! Indeed what Prime does amounts to simply providing a distraction, because hey presto, out come the weapons, the knives, out whip the guns and cannons, and the cleaning up of what look like little more than drones/ faceless bad guys.

The most surreal part of the movie for me.
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Re: Stupid Surrender Scene

Postby Noideaforaname » Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:17 am

I'm not sure if you can completely disarm a TF, they seem to just "grow" weapons.

Being surrounded by dozens of armed Decepticons, the Autobots couldn't attempt anything without instantly being shot to pieces. Unless of course something distracted the Cons.
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Re: Stupid Surrender Scene

Postby JeffX » Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:42 am

They were heavily out-numbered. It wasn't until the ships fell from the sky and Optimus flying in that the tide turned.
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Re: Stupid Surrender Scene

Postby Marcdachamp » Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:28 pm

The movie did not take ONE dig at Megan Fox. In fact, I was kind of surprised by how nicely they got rid of her character.
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Re: Stupid Surrender Scene

Postby shamone » Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:42 pm

Marcdachamp wrote:The movie did not take ONE dig at Megan Fox. In fact, I was kind of surprised by how nicely they got rid of her character.



it actually took three digs

wheelie called her a bitch and said she left

sam makes a less than complimentary remark

sams parents says the new one is prettier anyway
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Re: Stupid Surrender Scene

Postby Marcdachamp » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:24 pm

shamone wrote:
Marcdachamp wrote:The movie did not take ONE dig at Megan Fox. In fact, I was kind of surprised by how nicely they got rid of her character.



it actually took three digs

wheelie called her a bitch and said she left

sam makes a less than complimentary remark

sams parents says the new one is prettier anyway


Saw it twice. Pretty sure Wheelie didn't call her a bitch.

Sam says he's happier now, and his Mom called both girls "Smoking hot."
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Re: Stupid Surrender Scene

Postby shamone » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:28 pm

Marcdachamp wrote:
shamone wrote:
Marcdachamp wrote:The movie did not take ONE dig at Megan Fox. In fact, I was kind of surprised by how nicely they got rid of her character.



it actually took three digs

wheelie called her a bitch and said she left

sam makes a less than complimentary remark

sams parents says the new one is prettier anyway


Saw it twice. Pretty sure Wheelie didn't call her a bitch.

Sam says he's happier now, and his Mom called both girls "Smoking hot."


she says this one is better

its an unnecessary comment

but we hear what we want
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Re: Stupid Surrender Scene

Postby Marcdachamp » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:35 pm

shamone wrote:she says this one is better

its an unnecessary comment

but we hear what we want


It has nothing to do with "hearing what we want." No one's mother is going to say "You know, your current girlfriend is great, but I'd probably rank her right with your last one. You know, the one who dumped you."

Like it or not, Megan Fox's character could have been written out as a bad person, or killed off, but they instead had Sam date a different girl and basically just said "hey, things didn't work out."
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Re: Stupid Surrender Scene

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:55 pm

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Marcdachamp wrote:
shamone wrote:
Marcdachamp wrote:The movie did not take ONE dig at Megan Fox. In fact, I was kind of surprised by how nicely they got rid of her character.



it actually took three digs

wheelie called her a bitch and said she left

sam makes a less than complimentary remark

sams parents says the new one is prettier anyway


Saw it twice. Pretty sure Wheelie didn't call her a bitch.

Sam says he's happier now, and his Mom called both girls "Smoking hot."


Wheelie never called her a bitch. Wheelie said what if this one dumps us like the last girl. Then brains proceeds to say "ya, the last girl was mean. Didn't like her".

All sam said was he was dumper and found someone better. Thats not a stab. If they really wanted to take a stab at megan fox they could have made sam Dump her.


But on topic, it was actually Wheelie and Brains that saved the day when they started to crash the decepticon ship into the builds and cause the destraction for the Autobots to escape.
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Re: Stupid Surrender Scene

Postby Marcdachamp » Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:05 pm

5150 Cruiser wrote:Wheelie never called her a bitch. Wheelie said what if this one dumps us like the last girl. Then brains proceeds to say "ya, the last girl was mean. Didn't like her".


Knew it. Thank you.
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