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Re: Super GT Optimus Prime and Star Saber Prototype Images

Postby KUMA-NIN Maximus » Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:33 pm

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KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Atop of this meaning that they may have fixed the previous mold's issues, this may mean that they turned the 1:32 mold into a 1:24 mold.


Nope, upscaling molds has never been done except for KO's. In the 28 years Transformers has been in business, there were only two debatable cases of upsizing, emphasis on debatable:

1) SL Galvatron (Ultra) vs. Energon Megatron (Leader)
2) GF Starscream (Voyager) vs. Cybertron Starscream (Supreme)

Upsizing requires the creation of a whole new mold set, which is costly to do. Retooling current molds is more cost-effective.

And fixing design flaws? Done, but cosmetic changes for new releases seem to take priority.


All is true, Jelze, but during those 28 years... TOMY bought out and merged with Takara. Plus, atop of that, this is the very first time in their 28 year history have they collaborated with Super GT. Hence why I said time and time again, size matters not... As I am hoping to get my "GT" Star Saber. What I am dismissing is the fact that they are paying Super GT for these rights, while looking at how they might handle the product.

Because again, this is TOMY x Super GT... Not TOMY making people pay more because they licensed rights to Super GT. And much like Disney before them, we need to look at how TOMY did business in the past, not how Takara handled their Transformers line in the past. ;)
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Re: Super GT Optimus Prime and Star Saber Prototype Images

Postby VioMeTriX » Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:46 pm

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tomy and takara have been merged for many years now... takara makes a successful toy line and tomy is smart enough to not mess with a formula that works... they didnt buy takara to change everything, they bought takara as an already successful company.... now they are successful with more financial backing. im begining to think you are about 13 yrs old. now watch youll say im attacking you again (mods better get a handle on me, im out of control..lmao)
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Re: Super GT Optimus Prime and Star Saber Prototype Images

Postby Burn » Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:53 pm

Hey kids! Guess what! You're not playing nice!

Now I get to not play nice.

Except i'm on lunch, so you know ... stop it and play nicely, because I will be back, and if I see any more crap from this point on, the warnings get dished out.
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Re: Super GT Optimus Prime and Star Saber Prototype Images

Postby VioMeTriX » Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:54 pm

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Re: Super GT Optimus Prime and Star Saber Prototype Images

Postby KUMA-NIN Maximus » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:24 pm

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VioMeTriX wrote:tomy and takara have been merged for many years now... takara makes a successful toy line and tomy is smart enough to not mess with a formula that works... they didnt buy takara to change everything, they bought takara as an already successful company.... now they are successful with more financial backing. im begining to think you are about 13 yrs old. now watch youll say im attacking you again (mods better get a handle on me, im out of control..lmao)


I know that. What I am saying is that after TOMY bought out and merged with their rival, they made numerous changes. For beginners, they brought their partnership with Disney. This resulted in them testing out the Disney Label line, which did not meet much success. They still make the Mickey Mouse line, but nothing more.

Then again, you also dismissed the fact that their previous fiscal year had TOMY announce a 9 billion yen loss when it came to sales in Japan. Their fallout also pointed that they need to refocus all directions on current and future products. One of the first steps was delving into girls clothing, and the other is striking deals with corporations that could help them reverse this issue.

And also, speaking of being condescending to those you disagree with, which has two of your attacks be reported... I should remind you that when you join any forum and/or organizations, you signed a contractual obligation to respect all members and obey any rules that may or will be posted. Take that into consideration since you made two posts that show you attacking somebody... And you mocking the facts despite claiming of stopping. >:oP

Burn wrote:Hey kids! Guess what! You're not playing nice!

Now I get to not play nice.

Except i'm on lunch, so you know ... stop it and play nicely, because I will be back, and if I see any more shit from this point on, the warnings get dished out.


Glad you got the reports I sent, Burn. I apologize if I came off as an excuse for him to continue, much less not playing nice. But in all truth, after you get back from lunch, you might want to talk to him privately about his attitude. Because I did such with another moderator, who promised me that no member would make any attacks when it comes to the fact I have Aspergers. And yes, while I do come off as argumentative here (which I am trying not to be), it should not dismiss his attitude... Much less any attacks he did make. >:oP

Besides, I used to work with a forum moderator who would have banned him on the spot. So he should be thankful that you are not him. Plus, with lunch as a subject, are there any good ramen places in your area?
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Re: Super GT Optimus Prime and Star Saber Prototype Images

Postby VioMeTriX » Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:59 am

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when this first started and i supposedly attacked you i didnt know you have aspbergers... nor do i care... you brought that out as a defense. and apparenty the mods arent doiing anything... you need to SHUT THE F$%#! UP. you come accross this way to everyone, trust me i got emails and chats from others watching me deal with you.

Mods i want you to read everything between me and this guy... you see like the kid that suppossedly never stole cookies and let his brother take the blame, this guy sets people up instead of taking any responsibility. please do something, you can ban me for all i care, i have other screen names.... but see i am not the problem here, i got caught up by offering an opinion. this guy even quoted you telling us to stop.... do something about it!!!!
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Re: Super GT Optimus Prime and Star Saber Prototype Images

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:24 am

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KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Atop of this meaning that they may have fixed the previous mold's issues, this may mean that they turned the 1:32 mold into a 1:24 mold.


Nope, upscaling molds has never been done except for KO's. In the 28 years Transformers has been in business, there were only two debatable cases of upsizing, emphasis on debatable:

1) SL Galvatron (Ultra) vs. Energon Megatron (Leader)
2) GF Starscream (Voyager) vs. Cybertron Starscream (Supreme)

Upsizing requires the creation of a whole new mold set, which is costly to do. Retooling current molds is more cost-effective.

And fixing design flaws? Done, but cosmetic changes for new releases seem to take priority.


All is true, Jelze, but during those 28 years... TOMY bought out and merged with Takara. Plus, atop of that, this is the very first time in their 28 year history have they collaborated with Super GT. Hence why I said time and time again, size matters not... As I am hoping to get my "GT" Star Saber. What I am dismissing is the fact that they are paying Super GT for these rights, while looking at how they might handle the product.


GT isn't doing anything, other than provide the licenses. TakaraTomy has to pay licensing fees for the sponsor names, for the sake of authenticity. It's been like that ever since G1 started, with Wheeljack and Mirage being prime examples of actually avoiding them by changing the names slightly.

Because again, this is TOMY x Super GT... Not TOMY making people pay more because they licensed rights to Super GT. And much like Disney before them, we need to look at how TOMY did business in the past, not how Takara handled their Transformers line in the past. ;)


That's comparing apples and oranges :lol: Ok, let's do it your way and give me an example of a toy that was officially upscaled. Of any company.

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Re: Super GT Optimus Prime and Star Saber Prototype Images

Postby VioMeTriX » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:30 am

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boy oh boy when this nut gets his figure and it is still 1:32 scale, it just hopefully might push him to believe what we say.... everyone is telling him how wrong he is yet he still argues his point to everyone, is that the aspbergers talking or are you just that arrogant?!?!?!
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Re: Super GT Optimus Prime and Star Saber Prototype Images

Postby Burn » Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:21 pm

To hell with this, warning time.
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Re: Super GT Optimus Prime and Star Saber Prototype Images

Postby KUMA-NIN Maximus » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:37 pm

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Jelze, two factors:

1) I stated that I do not care about the scale. I stated that numerous times, as I collect what I like. I said it to you and others in hopes of realizing my speculation is tied to the price, not preference. Meaning that I was taking size into a bigger factor than the content. And the only evidence that we see is that a Racing Queen will be added. A 1:32 scale would be justifiable if the Racing Queen figure is bigger than 1:32 or 1:24. Even more, if you asked, I was also saying that I can also see other content - Tied to the team and series - add to this line's overall price.

2) I am using Tomy and their collaboration with Disney as a thought. It is why I never cared about the size, as those were also said to be small. But I also took into consideration that Super GT has the final say in terms of size and anything else. Which is why I tossed out tradition, but also did not dismiss it. Because they are great with retooling, which is going to make GT superior to the Alternity line.

But if you want an example... I was told that Robot Masters were slightly smaller than those later seen in the CHUG lines. But I need confirmation on that. And if that is true, then we have proof. But as I said - and had ignored after saying it - The size matters not as long as they have what I want/like. Namely STAR SABER. :D

Just remember that I am discussing price not preference, because my preference is going to have me own one regardless of size and price. ;)
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