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by **Rated X** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:48 pm

mooncake623 wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Tsutsukakushi wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:
Autobot Genocide wrote:Wow ! it's been a while

Hrm....That makes him MP, right? I might be interested in an MP Blurr, but I'd prefer to see it from Has/Tak. Suddenly I am even less interested in this. Deluxe size could have me intrigued...

Think this SXS Blurr is a Deluxe scaled toy. MP Sideswipe is only a 6.4 inch tall robot mode. Blurr next to MP Sideswipe looks like a Six inch tall robot mode. 2.0 Deluxe Cyclonus was a Six inch tall robot mode.

Don't need this, as SXS Blurr is too close in height to the HasTak Generations Blurr toy. Generations Blurr was a tall deluxe robot toy and almost Six inches in height.

If 3rd parties expect me to spend those 3rd party prices. They need to offer me something different than the HasTak toy versions. If SXS Blurr was a Voyager scaled toy around 6.7 inches tall in robot mode. Maybe with the added Alternators, Human alliance car interior like seats, steering wheel, dash board,rear view mirror,stick shift, rubber tires, side mirrors, tail pipe and other items. Then I might have considered buying it.

So youre saying MP sideswipe is really small ? How small is he compared to classics/universe sideswipe ? Any pics ?

Seibertron took several with his Masterpiece Sideswipe gallery. MP Sideswipe is significantly taller than Classics. I'm not sure what Tsutsukakushi is thinking.

(This is also why I do not value the inches with decimals measurements. Are they to the head, shoulder, backpack? Plus, inches are measured in fractions in the US, not decimal. I'm pretty good judging a quarter inch. .3 inches? Photo comparisons are the best, in my opinion.)

Damn, I was hoping he was actually right.

Oh well, money saved.

looks like 3P is hating on you and the classics scale these days

Maketoys Quantron ? Mech Ideas Gauntlet ? TFC vs. Maketoys Defensor ? A new G1 Menasor in the works ? Toyworld Throttlebots ? FP Mindwipe coming ?

3p Classics are far from dead.

by **necr0blivion** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:43 am

I think most of you are looking at this in the wrong way. SXS decided to show this prototype picture next to MP Sideswipe, but I don't think it was to compare MP aesthetics; it was to show height/size. And of course, this isn't a Deluxe scale, it's Voyager scale. So, for those wanting a new Deluxe sorry, this isn't for you.

What I believe the correct way to look at this offering is, and may make more sense to you all in a visual is the following:

I think this Blurr is going to look good next to Generations Springer. Hope to see some more pics soon. I'm not thrilled with their Gears/Continuously Variable, but maybe this one hits the sweet spot.

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:57 am

Gen Springer is too tall, IMO, so this doesn't work for me even on that level. Although, maybe that's the exact reason it's voyager sized? To match Springer?

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:03 pm

necr0blivion wrote:I think most of you are looking at this in the wrong way. SXS decided to show this prototype picture next to MP Sideswipe, but I don't think it was to compare MP aesthetics; it was to show height/size. And of course, this isn't a Deluxe scale, it's Voyager scale. So, for those wanting a new Deluxe sorry, this isn't for you.

What I believe the correct way to look at this offering is, and may make more sense to you all in a visual is the following:

I think this Blurr is going to look good next to Generations Springer. Hope to see some more pics soon. I'm not thrilled with their Gears/Continuously Variable, but maybe this one hits the sweet spot.

I totally agree . Looking at the two pictures Blurr might be a tiny bit smaller than Springer ? i'm loving the look of this figure and will be happy to replace Generations Blurr for a voyager sized one . I really need more voyager Autobots .

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:08 pm

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:17 pm

This looks good . They definitely stepped up there game .

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:53 pm

Don't like this, Think it looks like some of those half finished 3rd party Arcee toys. Think it's too small and has a vehicle mode that looks incomplete in parts.

by **necr0blivion** » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:20 pm

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Don't like this, Think it looks like some of those half finished 3rd party Arcee toys. Think it's too small and has a vehicle mode that looks incomplete in parts.

How large do you want Blurr to be? This is already a Voyager sized figure.

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:26 pm

necr0blivion wrote:
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Don't like this, Think it looks like some of those half finished 3rd party Arcee toys. Think it's too small and has a vehicle mode that looks incomplete in parts.

How large do you want Blurr to be? This is already a Voyager sized figure.

Too small ? he should be the same size as Generation Springer , I think the alt mode looks fine .

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:57 pm

Autobot Genocide wrote:
necr0blivion wrote:
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Don't like this, Think it looks like some of those half finished 3rd party Arcee toys. Think it's too small and has a vehicle mode that looks incomplete in parts.

How large do you want Blurr to be? This is already a Voyager sized figure.

Too small ? he should be the same size as Generation Springer , I think the alt mode looks fine .

Sorry, I'm not seeing a Voyager scale robot mode for SXS Blurr. I'm seeing a Six inch thin Deluxe robot mode for SXS Blurr like 2.0 Cyclonus has.

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:35 pm

Tsutsukakushi wrote:
Autobot Genocide wrote:
necr0blivion wrote:
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Don't like this, Think it looks like some of those half finished 3rd party Arcee toys. Think it's too small and has a vehicle mode that looks incomplete in parts.

How large do you want Blurr to be? This is already a Voyager sized figure.

Too small ? he should be the same size as Generation Springer , I think the alt mode looks fine .

Sorry, I'm not seeing a Voyager scale robot mode for SXS Blurr. I'm seeing a Six inch thin Deluxe robot mode for SXS Blurr like 2.0 Cyclonus has.

He's taller than Cyclonus , Blurr is slightly taller than MP Sideswipe . To the tip of his head Cyclonus is the same height as classics Sideswipe (i don't count cyclonus's ears)

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:46 pm

Autobot Genocide wrote: He's taller than Cyclonus , Blurr is slightly taller than MP Sideswipe . To the tip of his head Cyclonus is the same height as classics Sideswipe (i don't count cyclonus's ears)

That grey-blue bot next to MP Sideswipe in this pic is not Blurr. It's a character named Axor.

I count 2.0 Cyclonus's ears as they are part of his head helmet.

Autobot Genocide wrote:

If your not going to count 2.0 Cyclonus ears. then please play fair and also don't count SXS's Blurr's spike or whatever is on top of his head helmet.

MP Sideswipe barely made the Voyager scale by a mere 0.2. As he measures in from head top toe as a 6.2 inch robot mode. So having SXS Blurr be a half of a head shorter than MP Sideswipe even counting SXS Blurr's head spike. Means SXS Blurr is a 6 inch deluxe toy like 2.0 Cyclonus is.

Even if you take height out of the equation, SXS Blurr has the thin non-bulk of a HasTak Deluxe TF toy.

News Credits: 1452 · by **Blurrz** » Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:23 pm

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:21 am

The fact is T , Blurr can look MP sideswipe in the face whilst Cyclonus can't even look past his chest .

News Credits: 112 · by **megatronus** » Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:55 am

Tsutsukakushi wrote:MP Sideswipe barely made the Voyager scale by a mere 0.2. As he measures in from head top toe as a 6.2 inch robot mode. So having SXS Blurr be a half of a head shorter than MP Sideswipe even counting SXS Blurr's head spike. Means SXS Blurr is a 6 inch deluxe toy like 2.0 Cyclonus is.

It always amuses me when you break out exact height measurements as if that proves whether something is a certain size class or not.

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:53 am

Blurrz wrote::BANG_HEAD:

amen

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:14 pm

Hmm. He does look nice. That detailing is just killer, and I love the shoulder vents. Alas I don't collect MPs (yet). On the plus side, from the looks of things he's just a taller-than-average Deluxe, so he wouldn't look too out of place next to other Deluxe figure.

Might just get Animated Blurr, though.

News Credits: 1 · by **rpetras** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:54 am

Delta Magnus wrote:Might just get Animated Blurr, though.

I use Animated Blurr as my classics Blurr and I don't see this changing my mind.

It is nice, and if it was a retail release I'd be all over it, but I don't like it enough to pay 3P prices for it.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:56 am

Rated X wrote:
megatronus wrote:
Rated X wrote:Oh hell no !!! This was supposed to be deluxe class to scale with their gears. Total fail. Getting sick of all these non cartoon accurate MP figures. They would have so much potential if they were shrunk to classics scale. MP collectors want cartoon accuracy so this is kind of stupid. Should have been deluxe because drift blurr has to go, but this aint it.

Doesn't that by definition make them not MPs?

I was referring to the trend started by warbotron of making MP scaled figures that are neo instead of cartoon accurate. It seems to defy the whole point of the MP line.

Perhaps they're aimed at people who like MP engineering and size but prefer Neo aesthetics. Although I have yet to acquire MPs, their sheer mass and intricate engineering is the draw for me rather than the G1 accuracy. For example, I prefer Kawamoori's "Scabbard" design for Starscream to the cartoon model.

Alternatively, it is a 3P MP...but it's super accurate to the IDW design rather than the G1 design.

In any case, I like him. I wonder if they plan on doing an MP scale Arcee?

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:33 am

Delta Magnus wrote:
Rated X wrote:
megatronus wrote:
Rated X wrote:Oh hell no !!! This was supposed to be deluxe class to scale with their gears. Total fail. Getting sick of all these non cartoon accurate MP figures. They would have so much potential if they were shrunk to classics scale. MP collectors want cartoon accuracy so this is kind of stupid. Should have been deluxe because drift blurr has to go, but this aint it.

Doesn't that by definition make them not MPs?

I was referring to the trend started by warbotron of making MP scaled figures that are neo instead of cartoon accurate. It seems to defy the whole point of the MP line.

Perhaps they're aimed at people who like MP engineering and size but prefer Neo aesthetics. Although I have yet to acquire MPs, their sheer mass and intricate engineering is the draw for me rather than the G1 accuracy. For example, I prefer Kawamoori's "Scabbard" design for Starscream to the cartoon model.

Alternatively, it is a 3P MP...but it's super accurate to the IDW design rather than the G1 design.

In any case, I like him. I wonder if they plan on doing an MP scale Arcee?

I don't see any reason to think this is a MP toy myself , nothing about it says MP not when you compare it to Fanstoys or Badcube designs . Looks like a classics figure to me just like there gears but 100X better .

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:56 pm

Autobot Genocide wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:
Rated X wrote:
megatronus wrote:
Rated X wrote:Oh hell no !!! This was supposed to be deluxe class to scale with their gears. Total fail. Getting sick of all these non cartoon accurate MP figures. They would have so much potential if they were shrunk to classics scale. MP collectors want cartoon accuracy so this is kind of stupid. Should have been deluxe because drift blurr has to go, but this aint it.

Doesn't that by definition make them not MPs?

I was referring to the trend started by warbotron of making MP scaled figures that are neo instead of cartoon accurate. It seems to defy the whole point of the MP line.

Perhaps they're aimed at people who like MP engineering and size but prefer Neo aesthetics. Although I have yet to acquire MPs, their sheer mass and intricate engineering is the draw for me rather than the G1 accuracy. For example, I prefer Kawamoori's "Scabbard" design for Starscream to the cartoon model.

Alternatively, it is a 3P MP...but it's super accurate to the IDW design rather than the G1 design.

In any case, I like him. I wonder if they plan on doing an MP scale Arcee?

I don't see any reason to think this is a MP toy myself , nothing about it says MP not when you compare it to Fanstoys or Badcube designs . Looks like a classics figure to me just like there gears but 100X better .

Well, it's MP scale and by the looks of things very well engineered. That makes it an MP (albeit a third party MP) in my book.

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:29 pm

Delta Magnus wrote:
Autobot Genocide wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:
Rated X wrote:
megatronus wrote:
Rated X wrote:Oh hell no !!! This was supposed to be deluxe class to scale with their gears. Total fail. Getting sick of all these non cartoon accurate MP figures. They would have so much potential if they were shrunk to classics scale. MP collectors want cartoon accuracy so this is kind of stupid. Should have been deluxe because drift blurr has to go, but this aint it.

Doesn't that by definition make them not MPs?

I was referring to the trend started by warbotron of making MP scaled figures that are neo instead of cartoon accurate. It seems to defy the whole point of the MP line.

Perhaps they're aimed at people who like MP engineering and size but prefer Neo aesthetics. Although I have yet to acquire MPs, their sheer mass and intricate engineering is the draw for me rather than the G1 accuracy. For example, I prefer Kawamoori's "Scabbard" design for Starscream to the cartoon model.

Alternatively, it is a 3P MP...but it's super accurate to the IDW design rather than the G1 design.

In any case, I like him. I wonder if they plan on doing an MP scale Arcee?

I don't see any reason to think this is a MP toy myself , nothing about it says MP not when you compare it to Fanstoys or Badcube designs . Looks like a classics figure to me just like there gears but 100X better .

Well, it's MP scale and by the looks of things very well engineered. That makes it an MP (albeit a third party MP) in my book.

To me the company's doing 3rdp MP toys want it to fit the same aesthetic as the originals like FT or BC have done going for cartoon/toy accuracy . I think this is overly detailed and not G1 in appearance and doesn't fit the aesthetic of Takara's to call it a MP Blurr . for me it's a neo classics design .

I hope they nail it with the finished product .