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Takara Henkei Ultra Magnus exists. I have one en route and will be sharing detailed pictures with comparisons to Classics Ultra Magnus when he arrives.

He features a entirely different paint scheme / apps and has the same chroming applications as Optimus Prime / Convoy.

I look forward to sharing this treasure with the community shortly.

This marks my 3rd unreleased / Prototype figure I have acquired (Leadfoot , Nemesis Prime).

Nice find. I love seeing figures like this.

I'm not convinced. I'm comparing the images with my Classics Ultra Magnus, and too many details match up for it to be legit for me. Especially the silver trims and the yellow paint are in the exact places. Could very well be a mix of Henkei Convoy and Classics Magnus with a few touch ups.
The deciding factor would be the legs, if it's really the plastic color, or just paint.

It could also potentially be a KO.

Welcome to the Seibertron.com version of the alien autopsy video.

RhA wrote:Welcome to the Seibertron.com version of the alien autopsy video.

no kidding!

Still, since I've never seen or heard of any official Takara version of Classics/Henkei Ultra Magnus, I don't buy that it's a legit figure (though it could be a mod/custom and not necessarily an actual KO).

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I'm not convinced. I'm comparing the images with my Classics Ultra Magnus, and too many details match up for it to be legit for me. Especially the silver trims and the yellow paint are in the exact places. Could very well be a mix of Henkei Convoy and Classics Magnus with a few touch ups.
The deciding factor would be the legs, if it's really the plastic color, or just paint.

What did you mean about the legs? Should it be molded then it might be legit or painted?

It would have been great if he did get a mass release.........but then, that was like ages ago.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I'm not convinced. I'm comparing the images with my Classics Ultra Magnus, and too many details match up for it to be legit for me. Especially the silver trims and the yellow paint are in the exact places. Could very well be a mix of Henkei Convoy and Classics Magnus with a few touch ups.
The deciding factor would be the legs, if it's really the plastic color, or just paint.

Those legs look unpainted to me.

Mykltron wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I'm not convinced. I'm comparing the images with my Classics Ultra Magnus, and too many details match up for it to be legit for me. Especially the silver trims and the yellow paint are in the exact places. Could very well be a mix of Henkei Convoy and Classics Magnus with a few touch ups.
The deciding factor would be the legs, if it's really the plastic color, or just paint.

Those legs look unpainted to me.

I've also Googled for any customs or KO's that have those white plastic legs in question. Nothing so far, but you never know. Those customs can be really well done.

Clarify please? Unpainted then it might be legit? Or painted then it might be legit?

fenrir72 wrote:Clarify please? Unpainted then it might be legit? Or painted then it might be legit?

Painted = fake, especially if the plastic is actually blue.

Okay. If by any chance this is a proto type and Tomy usually adds some paint apps or chromes it,cpould it be a legit fig?

As usual, knowing is half the battle. Thanks JZGR.

Fake.

It Is Him wrote:Fake.

Got any evidence?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

It Is Him wrote:Fake.

Got any evidence?

I have serious doubts about PrimeUltimus' credibility on anything.

It Is Him wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

It Is Him wrote:Fake.

Got any evidence?

I have serious doubts about PrimeUltimus' credibility on anything.

this was also posted on tfw
whoever is conducting the sale has a rating of 4 and has no previous sales to their name so it could be fake especially considering what the price is now. seems alot of people are avoiding it at the moment.

would be nice if this was a sign of an upcoming release.

It Is Him wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

It Is Him wrote:Fake.

Got any evidence?

I have serious doubts about PrimeUltimus' credibility on anything.

I have serious doubts of you as a person.

Do not doubt my credibility.

As far as I see this is SLANDER. And I will report you to the mods.

If you have a problem with me come handle it in real life. Instead of being a PUNK behind a computer.

I have had Local members doubt the originality of this particular figure. When it arrives within the next few weeks any member in the Tampa Bay / Florida area is more then welcome to meet me at a public area to view the figure along with my Deluxe Target Leadfoot and Prototype Nemesis Prime.

I will not be sold short or have my credibility questioned by people who have no right to judge someone they have never met or knew.

I ask that you reserve your judgement before you see it with your own 2 eyes.

We're not questioning you as a person, but rather the authenticity of the item itself, for a few reasons:

1) A Henkei Ultra Magnus was never announced, or alluded to by TakaraTomy.
2) It would have been released during 2008-2009, during which a prototype or even a test shot was never leaked. To have one pop up now is a bit suspect.
3) See my first post. Put short, it has too many similarities with the Hasbro version, something that's not done between Classics and Henkei. I'm aiming at the silver lines and the shade and placing of the yellow highlights.
4) The legs are the biggest offenders for me. I did some checking on other versions of the mold, and the leg panel are attached to a clear plastic hinge on every single version, same color as the windows. Yet this version has solid hinges.

It is still highly probably it's a fake, but I'll let you make the final conclusion.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:We're not questioning you as a person, but rather the authenticity of the item itself, for a few reasons:

1) A Henkei Ultra Magnus was never announced, or alluded to by TakaraTomy.
2) It would have been released during 2008-2009, during which a prototype or even a test shot was never leaked. To have one pop up now is a bit suspect.
3) See my first post. Put short, it has too many similarities with the Hasbro version, something that's not done between Classics and Henkei. I'm aiming at the silver lines and the shade and placing of the yellow highlights.
4) The legs are the biggest offenders for me. I did some checking on other versions of the mold, and the leg panel are attached to a clear plastic hinge on every single version, same color as the windows. Yet this version has solid hinges.

It is still highly probably it's a fake, but I'll let you make the final conclusion.

He is questioning me as a person. The moderators asked him last year to stop and apparently he has not. I have already reported him. He is basing this off 3rd party info from another site from a former interest / hobby I was contributing to with Prototypes as well. I will leave it at that.

The legs are not painted and formed plastic. The seller acknowledged this is a original.

Primeultimus wrote:The legs are not painted and formed plastic. The seller acknowledged this is a original.

Hmmm, still doesn't explain the solid-colored hinges. Even United Black Optimus Prime has clear hinges, red like his windows.

Since you seem to have him on hand, when can we expect pictures?

Primeultimus wrote:I have had Local members doubt the originality of this particular figure. When it arrives within the next few weeks any member in the Tampa Bay / Florida area is more then welcome to meet me at a public area to view the figure along with my Deluxe Target Leadfoot and Prototype Nemesis Prime.

I will not be sold short or have my credibility questioned by people who have no right to judge someone they have never met or knew.

I ask that you reserve your judgement before you see it with your own 2 eyes.

Then stick to the piece at hand and not the personal stuff. I'd really like to see what this is about, a flamewar and a locked thread wouldn't be very helpfull.

Pictures! Pictures! Pictures!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Primeultimus wrote:The legs are not painted and formed plastic. The seller acknowledged this is a original.

Hmmm, still doesn't explain the solid-colored hinges. Even United Black Optimus Prime has clear hinges, red like his windows.

Since you seem to have him on hand, when can we expect pictures?

I do not have it in hand yet. I will have it within the next 2 weeks.

Let me post more pics before ultimately deciding it is fake.

Primeultimus wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Primeultimus wrote:The legs are not painted and formed plastic. The seller acknowledged this is a original.

Hmmm, still doesn't explain the solid-colored hinges. Even United Black Optimus Prime has clear hinges, red like his windows.

Since you seem to have him on hand, when can we expect pictures?

I do not have it in hand yet. I will have it within the next 2 weeks.

Let me post more pics before ultimately deciding it is fake.

I'll be eagerly awaiting them Regardless of authenticity, it's still an interesting piece.

Primeultimus wrote:

It Is Him wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

It Is Him wrote:Fake.

Got any evidence?

I have serious doubts about PrimeUltimus' credibility on anything.

I have serious doubts of you as a person.

Do not doubt my credibility.

As far as I see this is SLANDER. And I will report you to the mods.

If you have a problem with me come handle it in real life. Instead of being a PUNK behind a computer.

Did you just physically threaten me, PU/J? All I said was that I doubt your credibility, and so your response is to send me threats over a private message and in the public forum? That's a reasonable reaction.