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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

Postby Bounti76 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:32 pm

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Rhinox23 wrote:Sorry guys, but I'm a little confused. Do we know if these are new molds? Or are these remolds/retools/repaints/whatever of the Sideswipe mold? I feel like I'm missing something that everybody else is seeing. Or are we just speculating until we get some official pics? Like I said...I'm confused, but very interested to learn more and see some pictures! :???:

I hope they're new molds because I can't justify spending $80 for each of these no matter how cool they are if they're just repeats of Sideswipe.


The newest Masterpiece to be announced before Prowl and Smokescreen was Tigertrack, who WILL be a repaint of MP Sideswipe, since the original (e-Hobby) Tigertrack was also a repaint/redeco of Sideswipe.

We can't be 100% sure until we see them, but I'm almost positive that they'll be a new, shared mold.
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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

Postby Rhinox23 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:45 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:For G1 and their reissues, a lot of characters were created using a limited amount of unique molds. The list goes a little like this:

Lamborghini Countach: Sideswipe, Red Alert, Tigertrack, Clamp Down, Deep Cover
Nissan Datsun/Fairlady Z: Prowl, Bluestreak, Smokescreen
Toyota 4WD Hi-Lux: Trailbreaker, Hoist
Onebox Cherry Vanette: Ironhide, Ratchet

Since Masterpiece strives for accuracy, we're 100% certain Prowl will be a new mold with Smokescreen and possibly Bluestreak as his retools, like in G1.


Bounti76 wrote:The newest Masterpiece to be announced before Prowl and Smokescreen was Tigertrack, who WILL be a repaint of MP Sideswipe, since the original (e-Hobby) Tigertrack was also a repaint/redeco of Sideswipe.

We can't be 100% sure until we see them, but I'm almost positive that they'll be a new, shared mold.


Thanks guys! That makes perfect sense. I'm excited about (eventually) seeing the new mold for Prowl/Bluestreak/Smokescreen. Though again, I will likely only be getting one of this mold. That honor goes to Prowl! Definitely up there as far as my G1 favorites. I appreciate the information. This gives me something (else) to look forward to! :D
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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

Postby STngAR » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:52 pm

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This is kinda funny. I decide to throw in the towel with the MP line and all these new figures. Doesnt change my mind but there are other figures I decided I would rather put the money toward. :MAXIMAL:
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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:54 pm

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As for Smokescreen being chosen over Bluestreak, me thinks it has something to do with the fact Smokescreen had more retooling done in G1. Whereas Bluestreak simply has the lightbar removed, Smokescreen has an added spoiler and new front end.
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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

Postby Blurrz » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:59 pm

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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

Postby Mindmaster » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:11 pm

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Yeah, this is pretty nice news, can't wait to see how they will be done, but... I wanted a Megatron Version 2/Galvatron...
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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

Postby XDMan » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:32 pm

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Prowl and Smokescreen!?

YES! YYYEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

This has been the greatest time in history! Now I don't need the BT versions in my fan-fiction/These MP figures will be perfect to display!

Now give us a Bluestreak, please Takara? And Jazz, Sunstreaker, Mirage, Wheeljack, Ironhide/Ratchet (if you could, similar to the iGear toys), Hound, Trailbreaker, Bumblebee (classic VW, please), Cliffjumper (I don't know if he or BB are coming first, so make this guy come first (and he better not be a red BB), since fans think Cliff is always a redeco of BB), Brawn, Gears, Windcharger, a smaller, better Megatron, MP-11 versions of Skywarp and Thundercracker (similar to TRU version, but removing the references) and Shockwave!!!

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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

Postby Son of Carl » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:16 pm

XDMan wrote:Prowl and Smokescreen!?

YES! YYYEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

This has been the greatest time in history! Now I don't need the BT versions in my fan-fiction/These MP figures will be perfect to display!

Now give us a Bluestreak, please Takara? And Jazz, Sunstreaker, Mirage, Wheeljack, Ironhide/Ratchet (if you could, similar to the iGear toys), Hound, Trailbreaker, Bumblebee (classic VW, please), Cliffjumper (I don't know if he or BB are coming first, so make this guy come first (and he better not be a red BB), since fans think Cliff is always a redeco of BB), Brawn, Gears, Windcharger, a smaller, better Megatron, MP-11 versions of Skywarp and Thundercracker (similar to TRU version, but removing the references) and Shockwave!!!




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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

Postby Rhinox23 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:24 pm

XDMan wrote:Prowl and Smokescreen!?

YES! YYYEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

This has been the greatest time in history! Now I don't need the BT versions in my fan-fiction/These MP figures will be perfect to display!

Now give us a Bluestreak, please Takara? And Jazz, Sunstreaker, Mirage, Wheeljack, Ironhide/Ratchet (if you could, similar to the iGear toys), Hound, Trailbreaker, Bumblebee (classic VW, please), Cliffjumper (I don't know if he or BB are coming first, so make this guy come first (and he better not be a red BB), since fans think Cliff is always a redeco of BB), Brawn, Gears, Windcharger, a smaller, better Megatron, MP-11 versions of Skywarp and Thundercracker (similar to TRU version, but removing the references) and Shockwave!!!


I would really love to get a MP Perceptor! I know that he might not be able to translate well into a remold of another figure, but I think he would be a fantastic masterpiece figure! All of your suggestions are great too though! Just adding my two cents. :grin:
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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

Postby Judge Deliberata » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:33 pm

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I was JUST last night (ogling my new MP Sideswipe) ruminating over how badly the Autobots outnumber the cons in the MP department (only a barrage of MP Coneheads can save us now!), and thought to myself "It's only a matter of time before they do Prowl/Bluestreak/Smokescreen to get the most mileage possible out of a mold." Nevertheless, I welcome the idea with open arms; Bluestreak's a favorite of mine.

I wonder if he's not been announced yet because how virtually near-identical he is to Prowl (doesn't seem to be stopping Sideswipe/Red Alert/Tigertrack), or because they're trying to maybe clear up legal issues with his name? I know he's gone back and forth between Bluestreak/Silverstreak for some time now.

Calling it now: Masterpiece Blue Bluestreak for an E-hobby or Amazon.jp exclusive. :P
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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

Postby Arctorro » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:40 pm

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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

Postby SkyWarpsGhost » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:08 pm

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I was just saying to the GF about how I hope these guys don't sell out on pre order ;)
And off her own bat, she went and pre ordered and paid for Prowl and Smokescreen for me! I don't ever gush about her on FB etc but this act of amazingness just needed to be mentioned lol :)
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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

Postby xyl360 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:17 pm

I preordered Smokescreen (always liked him much better than Prowl).
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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

Postby Mindmaster » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:18 pm

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SkyWarpsGhost wrote:I was just saying to the GF about how I hope these guys don't sell out on pre order ;)
And off her own bat, she went and pre ordered and paid for Prowl and Smokescreen for me! I don't ever gush about her on FB etc but this act of amazingness just needed to be mentioned lol :)


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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

Postby Arctorro » Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:19 pm

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SkyWarpsGhost wrote:I was just saying to the GF about how I hope these guys don't sell out on pre order ;)
And off her own bat, she went and pre ordered and paid for Prowl and Smokescreen for me! I don't ever gush about her on FB etc but this act of amazingness just needed to be mentioned lol :)


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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

Postby necr0blivion » Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:32 pm

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RodimalToyota wrote:Oh awesomesauce! Repaints are finally welcomed!
I hope BlueStreak and Sunstreaker are the next two to be anno0unced.

Followed by Jazz and Bee'
Followed by Jazz G2 repaint, and Goldbug.


hot damn! I love me more cars!



I wondering what the next 200$ price point fig will be..

Shockwave?
Renewal Megatron?
Blaster?



I wouldnt count on all the Autobots. Volkswagen, Jeep, and Corvette may not be as willing to license their old school cars to Hasbro. Same thing with who ever owns the Wheeljack or Mirage race cars. Maybe Trailbreaker/Hoist since it was a GM vechicle.


I'd worry a lot more about all the sponsors Mirage and Wheeljack have. Ho boy. :roll:

Trailbreaker and Hoist are Toyota brand trucks, which falls under the Toyota Motor Corporation, or TMC. TMC currently owns the Toyota, Scion, Lexus, Daihatsu and Hino Motors brands.


If Trailbreaker and Hoist get MPs before "proper" Classics releases... what a world! But then I could say the same for Soundwave as he's yet to receive a "proper" Classics release, only 2 video game versions or the Music Label version from a few years ago.
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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

Postby Ultra Markus » Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:33 pm

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XDMan wrote:Prowl and Smokescreen!?

YES! YYYEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

This has been the greatest time in history! Now I don't need the BT versions in my fan-fiction/These MP figures will be perfect to display!

Now give us a Bluestreak, please Takara? And Jazz, Sunstreaker, Mirage, Wheeljack, Ironhide/Ratchet (if you could, similar to the iGear toys), Hound, Trailbreaker, Bumblebee (classic VW, please), Cliffjumper (I don't know if he or BB are coming first, so make this guy come first (and he better not be a red BB), since fans think Cliff is always a redeco of BB), Brawn, Gears, Windcharger, a smaller, better Megatron, MP-11 versions of Skywarp and Thundercracker (similar to TRU version, but removing the references) and Shockwave!!!

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that would all be nice but they will never make a jazz the same way as the others they would not make him a porsche and bumblebee a VW if you remember there were licencing issues with the alternators and as for cliffjumper i never thought even back when i was a kid that cliff was a repaint of bumble bee
i could tell they were different molds so the statement that fans think Cliff is always a redeco of BB is completely false
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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

Postby necr0blivion » Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:34 pm

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And off her own bat, she went and pre ordered and paid for Prowl and Smokescreen for me! I don't ever gush about her on FB etc but this act of amazingness just needed to be mentioned lol :)


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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

Postby jbellanca » Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:41 pm

Great! Preordered! Prowl was my first Transformer ever as a kid in the '80's, so excited to get him in Masterpiece!
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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

Postby jbellanca » Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:47 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:As for Smokescreen being chosen over Bluestreak, me thinks it has something to do with the fact Smokescreen had more retooling done in G1. Whereas Bluestreak simply has the lightbar removed, Smokescreen has an added spoiler and new front end.


And maybe because Smokescreen's getting some play in Prime right now, so maybe trying to capitalize on some of the mindshare.
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Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:33 pm

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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

Postby RodimalToyota » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:52 pm

I'm not sure about repaints with these two, prowl to Smokescreen is about as
Much difference in the body as Sideswipe vs Sunstreaker.

They will have to retool prowls roof to make a silver/blue streak.

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Postby Trikeboy » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:52 pm

3 Masterpieces (Prowl, Smokescreen and Tiger Tracks), 2 Zelda games (Wind Waker HD and Zelda WiiU) and colour images of Fansproject Breakdown. Can today get any better?
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Re: Takara Masterpiece MP-17 and MP-18 Announced: Prowl and Smokescreen!

Postby RodimalToyota » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:01 pm

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XDMan wrote:Prowl and Smokescreen!?

YES! YYYEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

This has been the greatest time in history! Now I don't need the BT versions in my fan-fiction/These MP figures will be perfect to display!

Now give us a Bluestreak, please Takara? And Jazz, Sunstreaker, Mirage, Wheeljack, Ironhide/Ratchet (if you could, similar to the iGear toys), Hound, Trailbreaker, Bumblebee (classic VW, please), Cliffjumper (I don't know if he or BB are coming first, so make this guy come first (and he better not be a red BB), since fans think Cliff is always a redeco of BB), Brawn, Gears, Windcharger, a smaller, better Megatron, MP-11 versions of Skywarp and Thundercracker (similar to TRU version, but removing the references) and Shockwave!!!

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that would all be nice but they will never make a jazz the same way as the others they would not make him a porsche and bumblebee a VW if you remember there were licencing issues with the alternators and as for cliffjumper i never thought even back when i was a kid that cliff was a repaint of bumble bee
i could tell they were different molds so the statement that fans think Cliff is always a redeco of BB is completely false


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