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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby xMXUx » Thu May 15, 2014 9:33 am

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby kirbenvost » Thu May 15, 2014 10:02 am

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Cool, the tire thing is removeable for those who don't like it.

Takara really knocked it out of the park with this one. He looks amazing. :)
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Cyberpath » Thu May 15, 2014 10:02 am

There's another page, but way small file atm:

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby El Duque » Thu May 15, 2014 10:27 am

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Thanks to you friends over on the Planet Iacon Facebook page we have a full and much clearer image of Takara Tomy's Transformers Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee and Excel Suit Spike in glorious color! Enjoy the image mirrored below:

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby wilcosu35 » Thu May 15, 2014 10:34 am

he looks fantastic
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby reysito » Thu May 15, 2014 11:35 am

I like the bumpers detail, here in latin america de VW Beetle was highly popular, Really like it very much, he looks great even with his backpack.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Rated X » Thu May 15, 2014 11:46 am

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Sheesh, the scale next to M-10 is horrible. In the cartoon, Bumblebee reaches about to Primes groin area. Here he reaches his knees. And the Lamborghini Countach is a fairly small car, so the VW alt mode is off scale as well. This Bumblebee would probally work better with classics figures and would scale nicely next to Toyworld Orion. If Michael Bay didnt make me hate Bumblebee so much, I might have bought this. But Im so sick of that character, I think Ill just stick with Art Feather Bumblebee.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby warzon3 » Thu May 15, 2014 11:53 am

I remember a couple episodes where he only stood up to the top of Primes shin area. The scale looks right to me.

Takara likes to use a lot of paint with their MP's and there are a lot of panels here, I just worry there is going to be a lot of paint chipping after the first few transformations...

I wish the hubcap on his back sat a little further down his back, more like the cartoon...
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Thu May 15, 2014 11:56 am

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Rated X wrote:Sheesh, the scale next to M-10 is horrible. In the cartoon, Bumblebee reaches about to Primes groin area. Here he reaches his knees


Let's focus on Robot Mode scale only, as that seems to be the main focus here. Pulling out the official Scale Guide reveals that MP Bumblebee is indeed scale with Optimus Prime, coming to between the knees and groin.

Of course, given the liberties the cartoon has taken scale is moot.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Convoy » Thu May 15, 2014 12:04 pm

I don't know why they made a flipping insignia for the roof if they're just going to tampograph another on the hood anyway.
What they need to do is slap a big fat rubsign on that thing so you know it's official! ;)
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Cyberpath » Thu May 15, 2014 12:19 pm

I think the size is great.

When I think of height comparison between Optimus Prime and 'Bee this is generally the first scene that comes to mind:

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Though I'm sure that there may be scenes that show otherwise give or take.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby same138 » Thu May 15, 2014 12:40 pm

Rated X wrote:Sheesh, the scale next to M-10 is horrible. In the cartoon, Bumblebee reaches about to Primes groin area. Here he reaches his knees. And the Lamborghini Countach is a fairly small car, so the VW alt mode is off scale as well. This Bumblebee would probally work better with classics figures and would scale nicely next to Toyworld Orion. If Michael Bay didnt make me hate Bumblebee so much, I might have bought this. But Im so sick of that character, I think Ill just stick with Art Feather Bumblebee.


I was intrigued by your comment about the car sizes so did a quick search and came up with 163 inches for the Lambo and 160.5 for the Beetle, 2.5 inches of a difference. A quick cut and paste of Alt mode 'Bee in the image with the Countach to line them up a little better shows a lot more than a scaled down 2.5".

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I still want him though, just 'cause he's a Beetle again at last.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Diem » Thu May 15, 2014 12:43 pm

This is all but guaranteed to get a US version, so I can hold out for that.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Mindmaster » Thu May 15, 2014 1:58 pm

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Diem wrote:This is all but guaranteed to get a US version, so I can hold out for that.


If this does indeed get an American release, would it be ironic that this is the only Bumblebee that'll probably not shelfwarm? :lol:
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby craggy » Thu May 15, 2014 2:25 pm

Pika? Bumblechu!

Loving it. Though I am in agreement that the rotating panel on the roof/chest is a bit too much for what it's worth.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Thu May 15, 2014 3:01 pm

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby autobot1979 » Thu May 15, 2014 5:40 pm

This is sweet =P~
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Hammer » Thu May 15, 2014 7:03 pm

Convoy wrote:I don't know why they made a flipping insignia for the roof if they're just going to tampograph another on the hood anyway.
What they need to do is slap a big fat rubsign on that thing so you know it's official! ;)


So both modes are cartoon accurate :)
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Convoy » Thu May 15, 2014 8:17 pm

Hammer wrote:
So both modes are cartoon accurate :)



I'd buy that explanation if it didn't have the insignia on the foot in bot-mode. They might as well have made the hood panel flippable.
Where else am I supposed to complain?
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Thu May 15, 2014 8:22 pm

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Convoy wrote:I think the quote about VW/Porche not supporting war machines may only be applicable to the first and subsequent live action movie(s).
It actually originated from back when Binaltech/Alternators was going on beginning back in 2003.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Convoy » Thu May 15, 2014 8:39 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Convoy wrote:I think the quote about VW/Porche not supporting war machines may only be applicable to the first and subsequent live action movie(s).
It actually originated from back when Binaltech/Alternators was going on beginning back in 2003.



I guess I forgot it went that far back. I do remember the weapon kerfuffle between the US and JP release of the Honda mold for BT/ALT. (Honda Japan was cool with guns and Honda US was all like, 'um...gun? we're not sure about that.')
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby TimothyR » Fri May 16, 2014 5:06 am

G1 cartoon accurate.. i don't see any problem with scale.. as it's been pointed out.. though the real world vehicles were similar.. they WEREN'T on the show..

and.. if you check out the ultimate scale chart.. you'll see that prime and bumblebee are in perfect scale to each other... remember.. bumblebee wasn't all that much larger than the humans on the show.

so.. everyone who is whining about scale, knock it off.. why would you expect anything besides cartoon scale? i don't need my MASTERPIECE bumblebee being the same size as prowl and sideswipe, that's just silly.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Sideshow Sideswipe » Fri May 16, 2014 7:24 am

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TimothyR wrote:G1 cartoon accurate.. i don't see any problem with scale.. as it's been pointed out.. though the real world vehicles were similar.. they WEREN'T on the show..

and.. if you check out the ultimate scale chart.. you'll see that prime and bumblebee are in perfect scale to each other... remember.. bumblebee wasn't all that much larger than the humans on the show.

so.. everyone who is whining about scale, knock it off.. why would you expect anything besides cartoon scale? i don't need my MASTERPIECE bumblebee being the same size as prowl and sideswipe, that's just silly.


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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Stormrider » Fri May 16, 2014 8:08 am

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Rated X wrote:Sheesh, the scale next to M-10 is horrible. In the cartoon, Bumblebee reaches about to Primes groin area. Here he reaches his knees


Let's focus on Robot Mode scale only, as that seems to be the main focus here. Pulling out the official Scale Guide reveals that MP Bumblebee is indeed scale with Optimus Prime, coming to between the knees and groin.

Of course, given the liberties the cartoon has taken scale is moot.


I know that Takara is going to great lengths to scale the robot modes with MP10, but Bee just looks smaller than I imagined him in my head. It looks like his head is at MP10's knee and I was expecting his height to be closer to MP10's mid thigh. It's not a deal breaker, but I am sure there will be an initial shock when I have him in hand just like when I lined MP Sideswipe to MP10 initially.

On the plus side, I like the colors and design of the figure. Works well and I am sure he will be fun to pose and play with.

Where does the spare tire go in alt mode?
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