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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Rated X » Fri May 16, 2014 9:46 am

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For everybody who keeps bringing up that so called "official scale chart" wasnt it created years later in the 90s to squash arguements like this one ? That damn chart has nothing to do with the 1986 cartoon and played no influence in the original G1 artists depiction of scale. The chart was has/taks way of saying "forget all the inconsistencies you saw in the cartoon, this is our new bible now, deal with it". Quite frankly, they bumped the mini bots down to crappy penny racer toy scale. Im not going to say that scale wasnt seen in the cartoon, but the better looking scout scale was used just as much in the cartoon. Especially when he became goldbug. Who ever invented that scale chart for hasbro made some stupid decisions based on G1 microman toy scale and ignored both real life and the cartoon altogether. Somebody print out that chart so I can use it as toilet paper...
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Fri May 16, 2014 9:58 am

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Rated X wrote:For everybody who keeps bringing up that so called "official scale chart" wasnt it created years later in the 90s to squash arguements like this one ?
Nnnnnnno, cuz, it came from Sunbow's production archives with the rest of the original character models that Jim Sorensen and Bill Forster put together for Ark books.

Companies don't make new production materials for shows they've halted production on years earlier.

And, really, to make such a chart years after the fact just to quench silly fandom arguments seems really petty for a professional television production company to really give a darn about.

Also, 1984 cartoon, dude.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Fri May 16, 2014 10:35 am

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby skynet1O1 » Fri May 16, 2014 10:39 am

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Well I think the scale will be fine. All I need is for the scale to be more accurate in vehicle mode then in bot mode. But anyways, I will be buying this guy as well as UM. And isn't Wheeljack released already!
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby fenrir72 » Sat May 17, 2014 9:56 pm

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skynet1O1 wrote:Well I think the scale will be fine. All I need is for the scale to be more accurate in vehicle mode then in bot mode. But anyways, I will be buying this guy as well as UM. And isn't Wheeljack released already!


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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Burn » Sat May 17, 2014 10:26 pm

Curious ... if scale is such an issue, and it's clear that the robot mode is in scale which stuffs up the vehicle mode scale ... and if that is such an issue, then you're obviously going to be displaying him in vehicle mode, then why not go out and track down a scale model car and just slap an Autobot logo onto it?
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby fenrir72 » Sat May 17, 2014 10:50 pm

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Not an engineer but if you try to make the car scale go along with the robot scale.........I don't think it's possible. And, isn't their robot mode taking precedence over the car scale?

And, well based on the fiction, they also had the mass shifting doohickey. That being the case, Soundwave and the Seekers are way off scale in their alternate modes.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Dead Metal » Sun May 18, 2014 2:46 am

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Burn wrote:Curious ... if scale is such an issue, and it's clear that the robot mode is in scale which stuffs up the vehicle mode scale ... and if that is such an issue, then you're obviously going to be displaying him in vehicle mode, then why not go out and track down a scale model car and just slap an Autobot logo onto it?

I've brought that up to those people before, they just get angry.


I love this, it looks great in colour, plus the scale is perfect. Just a little miffed about the back wheel thingy being all yellow instead of black for the tire part.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby shajaki » Sun May 18, 2014 9:21 am

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we could make a deadly drinking game based on the word "scale" in this thread.

no seriously, people would die.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby robotmel » Mon May 19, 2014 8:51 am

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shajaki wrote:we could make a deadly drinking game based on the word "scale" in this thread.

no seriously, people would die.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby robotmel » Wed May 21, 2014 2:59 am

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Browsing the newer magazine scans of the MP Bumblebee, Ive just spotted the shoulders of this little bug and they appear to be ball jointed just like his Classics version!
I guess being such a small sized figure they felt ratchet shoulders where not necessary, but still....

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Stormrider » Wed May 21, 2014 6:28 am

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robotmel wrote::-?
Browsing the newer magazine scans of the MP Bumblebee, Ive just spotted the shoulders of this little bug and they appear to be ball jointed just like his Classics version!
I guess being such a small sized figure they felt ratchet shoulders where not necessary, but still....

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I am not too concerned with the ball joints. The MP Datsuns have ball jointed shoulders as well.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Wed May 21, 2014 6:33 am

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robotmel wrote::-?
Browsing the newer magazine scans of the MP Bumblebee, Ive just spotted the shoulders of this little bug and they appear to be ball jointed just like his Classics version!
I guess being such a small sized figure they felt ratchet shoulders where not necessary, but still....

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby fenrir72 » Wed May 21, 2014 6:55 pm

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Sharp eye kimosabe.

Hopefully the ball joints won't wear off too easily.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby shajaki » Wed May 21, 2014 9:06 pm

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does anyone think bees face in that latest pic looks derpy?
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Cyberpath » Thu May 22, 2014 2:19 am

'Bee with MP-10 Spike on his shoulder:

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby robotmel » Thu May 22, 2014 9:25 am

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As it happens, I saw this image elsewhere, so thats where I ripped it from. Not sure why you have gone around everyones recent posts, posting the Seibertron link to the same info?
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Stormrider » Tue May 27, 2014 11:49 am

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Does anyone have more info about the spare tire on his backpack? The tire can be seen in some bot images but not all. And has anyone seen the spare tire in alt mode?
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Dead Metal » Wed May 28, 2014 2:30 am

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Stormrider wrote:Does anyone have more info about the spare tire on his backpack? The tire can be seen in some bot images but not all. And has anyone seen the spare tire in alt mode?

It's removable.
Yes we have, the first alt-mode pic had it, remember the argument it caused?
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Cyberpath » Thu May 29, 2014 3:46 am

First pic of the spare tire in alt-mode:

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby mblase75 » Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:06 am

Awaiting the inevitable Cliffjumper remold and Goldbug and Hubcap repaints with equal glee.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Optimizzy » Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:24 am

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby Siger » Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:40 am

Nice car and bot mode. Only thing off-putting is the face plate sculpt and the price... $60 for that tiny bot? NOPE!
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion

Postby fenrir72 » Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:27 am

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