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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Fri May 16, 2014 9:46 amby Rated X
For everybody who keeps bringing up that so called "official scale chart" wasnt it created years later in the 90s to squash arguements like this one ? That damn chart has nothing to do with the 1986 cartoon and played no influence in the original G1 artists depiction of scale. The chart was has/taks way of saying "forget all the inconsistencies you saw in the cartoon, this is our new bible now, deal with it". Quite frankly, they bumped the mini bots down to crappy penny racer toy scale. Im not going to say that scale wasnt seen in the cartoon, but the better looking scout scale was used just as much in the cartoon. Especially when he became goldbug. Who ever invented that scale chart for hasbro made some stupid decisions based on G1 microman toy scale and ignored both real life and the cartoon altogether. Somebody print out that chart so I can use it as toilet paper...
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Fri May 16, 2014 9:58 amby Sabrblade
Rated X wrote:For everybody who keeps bringing up that so called "official scale chart" wasnt it created years later in the 90s to squash arguements like this one ?
Nnnnnnno, cuz, it came from Sunbow's production archives with the rest of the original character models that Jim Sorensen and Bill Forster put together for Ark books.
Companies don't make new production materials for shows they've halted production on years earlier.
And, really, to make such a chart years after the fact just to quench silly fandom arguments seems really petty for a professional television production company to really give a darn about.
Also, 198
4 cartoon, dude.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Fri May 16, 2014 10:35 amby Sabrblade
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Fri May 16, 2014 10:39 amby skynet1O1
Well I think the scale will be fine. All I need is for the scale to be more accurate in vehicle mode then in bot mode. But anyways, I will be buying this guy as well as UM. And isn't Wheeljack released already!
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Sat May 17, 2014 9:56 pmby fenrir72
skynet1O1 wrote:Well I think the scale will be fine. All I need is for the scale to be more accurate in vehicle mode then in bot mode. But anyways, I will be buying this guy as well as UM. And isn't Wheeljack released already!
This August 2014 kimosabe.
If this was already mentioned............my bad but just realized this. Wheeljack and BB are the first 2 transformers to ever appear in TV. Remember in MTMTE episode 1? Both buddies were busy scrounging for energy resources before the Ark's launch. Energy conductors iirc correctly. Now both guys are getting a release one after the other.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Sat May 17, 2014 10:26 pmby Burn
Curious ... if scale is such an issue, and it's clear that the robot mode is in scale which stuffs up the vehicle mode scale ... and if that is such an issue, then you're obviously going to be displaying him in vehicle mode, then why not go out and track down a scale model car and just slap an Autobot logo onto it?
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Sat May 17, 2014 10:50 pmby fenrir72
Not an engineer but if you try to make the car scale go along with the robot scale.........I don't think it's possible. And, isn't their robot mode taking precedence over the car scale?
And, well based on the fiction, they also had the mass shifting doohickey. That being the case, Soundwave and the Seekers are way off scale in their alternate modes.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Sun May 18, 2014 2:46 amby Dead Metal
Burn wrote:Curious ... if scale is such an issue, and it's clear that the robot mode is in scale which stuffs up the vehicle mode scale ... and if that is such an issue, then you're obviously going to be displaying him in vehicle mode, then why not go out and track down a scale model car and just slap an Autobot logo onto it?
I've brought that up to those people before, they just get angry.
I love this, it looks great in colour, plus the scale is perfect. Just a little miffed about the back wheel thingy being all yellow instead of black for the tire part.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Sun May 18, 2014 9:21 amby shajaki
we could make a deadly drinking game based on the word "scale" in this thread.
no seriously, people would die.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Mon May 19, 2014 8:51 amby robotmel
shajaki wrote:we could make a deadly drinking game based on the word "scale" in this thread.
no seriously, people would die.
Mines a pint!!
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Wed May 21, 2014 2:59 amby robotmel
Browsing the newer magazine scans of the MP Bumblebee, Ive just spotted the shoulders of this little bug and they appear to be ball jointed just like his Classics version!
I guess being such a small sized figure they felt ratchet shoulders where not necessary, but still....
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Wed May 21, 2014 6:28 amby Stormrider
robotmel wrote::-?
Browsing the newer magazine scans of the MP Bumblebee, Ive just spotted the shoulders of this little bug and they appear to be ball jointed just like his Classics version!
I guess being such a small sized figure they felt ratchet shoulders where not necessary, but still....
I am not too concerned with the ball joints. The MP Datsuns have ball jointed shoulders as well.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Wed May 21, 2014 6:33 amby Sabrblade
robotmel wrote::-?
Browsing the newer magazine scans of the MP Bumblebee, Ive just spotted the shoulders of this little bug and they appear to be ball jointed just like his Classics version!
I guess being such a small sized figure they felt ratchet shoulders where not necessary, but still....
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/hires-scans-from-generations-2014-volume-1-mp-wheeljack-bumblebee-ultra-magnus-star-saber/30262/
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Wed May 21, 2014 6:55 pmby fenrir72
@robotmel
Sharp eye kimosabe.
Hopefully the ball joints won't wear off too easily.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Wed May 21, 2014 9:06 pmby shajaki
does anyone think bees face in that latest pic looks derpy?
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Thu May 22, 2014 2:19 amby Cyberpath
'Bee with MP-10 Spike on his shoulder:
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Thu May 22, 2014 9:25 amby robotmel
>:oP
As it happens, I saw this image elsewhere, so thats where I ripped it from. Not sure why you have gone around everyones recent posts, posting the Seibertron link to the same info?
Ah well, I guess its all for the love of Transformers!
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Tue May 27, 2014 11:49 amby Stormrider
Does anyone have more info about the spare tire on his backpack? The tire can be seen in some bot images but not all. And has anyone seen the spare tire in alt mode?
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Wed May 28, 2014 2:30 amby Dead Metal
Stormrider wrote:Does anyone have more info about the spare tire on his backpack? The tire can be seen in some bot images but not all. And has anyone seen the spare tire in alt mode?
It's removable.
Yes we have, the first alt-mode pic had it, remember the argument it caused?
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Thu May 29, 2014 3:46 amby Cyberpath
Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Official Photos
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Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:50 amby mooncake623
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:06 amby mblase75
Awaiting the inevitable Cliffjumper remold and Goldbug and Hubcap repaints with equal glee.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:24 amby Optimizzy
That is one perfect looking Bee
Um, Daniel's face needs more paint. He looks kinda scary.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:40 amby Siger
Nice car and bot mode. Only thing off-putting is the face plate sculpt and the price... $60 for that tiny bot? NOPE!
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:27 amby fenrir72
Lookin' good "B"
