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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby PrymeStriker » Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:27 pm

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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:And someone please knock Bumblebee off of Leader Class and give it back to Megatron!

I don't know why Hasbro doesn't understand that. They're called action figures for a reason. The good guy needs a bad guy to fight. When I was a kid I always wanted the lead good guy and the lead bad guy. Not the lead good guy and his sidekick.


My thoughts exactly.

You can't play-fight with your figs if there's no enemy. What's the kid gonna do, sit OP and Bee down on a table and have tea?

And let's not forget that Bee's way out of scale as a leader class toy. I know scale is almost an afterthought as far as TF's are concerned, but at least keep him in relative scale, for Pete's sake.


I do not favor the thought of the same character being released in 3 different scales. That's why I don't collect legion classes. I like characters to have one toy of one character in one class, and it better be in the right class. I also don't like "Shadow Strike" and "Nightwatch" and "Super Thingamabob" titles for the same damn character. If you're going to make a repaint, at least named it something different. Or retool it. :roll:

But of course, they gave all of this up around Cybertron. Granted, the legion class of Cybertron was rather small. The movies ruined everything for us. :-(
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:51 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:I do not favor the thought of the same character being released in 3 different scales. That's why I don't collect legion classes. I like characters to have one toy of one character in one class, and it better be in the right class. I also don't like "Shadow Strike" and "Nightwatch" and "Super Thingamabob" titles for the same damn character. If you're going to make a repaint, at least named it something different. Or retool it. :roll:

But of course, they gave all of this up around Cybertron. Granted, the legion class of Cybertron was rather small. The movies ruined everything for us. :-(


Agreed. I'm probably one of the few adult collectors who actually likes movieverse Bee, but I've never bought any "non-canon" version of Bee. Ever. To me, it's just a lazy way of milking a mold.

At least in G1, the repaints are actually their own characters.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby PrymeStriker » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:13 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:I do not favor the thought of the same character being released in 3 different scales. That's why I don't collect legion classes. I like characters to have one toy of one character in one class, and it better be in the right class. I also don't like "Shadow Strike" and "Nightwatch" and "Super Thingamabob" titles for the same damn character. If you're going to make a repaint, at least named it something different. Or retool it. :roll:

But of course, they gave all of this up around Cybertron. Granted, the legion class of Cybertron was rather small. The movies ruined everything for us. :-(


Agreed. I'm probably one of the few adult collectors who actually likes movieverse Bee, but I've never bought any "non-canon" version of Bee. Ever. To me, it's just a lazy way of milking a mold.

At least in G1, the repaints are actually their own characters.


And they appeared in the fiction. :roll: :-(

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:33 pm

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Well, what goes down (hopefully) must eventually come up again. Until then, though, I'll stick to MP's and what few choice morsels might pop up in the Generations line like WFC Starscream and voyager Grimlock.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby PrymeStriker » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:40 pm

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Well, what goes down (hopefully) must eventually come up again. Until then, though, I'll stick to MP's and what few choice morsels might pop up in the Generations line like WFC Starscream and voyager Grimlock.


Doesn't that phrase go: "What goes up must come down?"

:-( :-(
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:52 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:Doesn't that phrase go: "What goes up must come down?"

:-( :-(


Er...well, it applies to the bodies of drowned people... :grin:

Kind of fitting if you think about it. Hasbro drowning in a sea of overstocked Bumblebees... :KREMZEEK:
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby PrymeStriker » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:05 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:Doesn't that phrase go: "What goes up must come down?"

:-( :-(


Er...well, it applies to the bodies of drowned people... :grin:

Kind of fitting if you think about it. Hasbro drowning in a sea of overstocked Bumblebees... :KREMZEEK:


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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:10 pm

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We like you, Bee. Just not so many of you.

Now let poor Megs be leader class size again, and we'll be your friends again, okay?
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby PrymeStriker » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:20 pm

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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:We like you, Bee. Just not so many of you.

Now let poor Megs be leader class size again, and we'll be your friends again, okay?


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I don't like Leader Classes anyway. DOTM Sentinel Prime was and will always be my last Leader Class.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:29 pm

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I seriously LOL'ed at that pic! That was a good one!

To be honest, the only leader class toy I truly treasure is the ROTF LC Optimus mold. But then, he was designed by one of the Takara guys who does Masterpiece figs, which is probably why he looks as screen-accurate as he does.

I like HFTD LC Starscream too, and I'd like him a whole lot more if his alt mode wasn't bloated from all those batteries, voice chips and speakers.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby PrymeStriker » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:41 pm

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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I seriously LOL'ed at that pic! That was a good one!

To be honest, the only leader class toy I truly treasure is the ROTF LC Optimus mold. But then, he was designed by one of the Takara guys who does Masterpiece figs, which is probably why he looks as screen-accurate as he does.

I like HFTD LC Starscream too, and I'd like him a whole lot more if his alt mode wasn't bloated from all those batteries, voice chips and speakers.


I just find LCs to complicated in terms of transformation (yeah, I said that. Every LC figure I've gotten since Movie1 Megs proves that). Even though the new Weaponizers have simple transforms, the gimmick sacrifices a lot for me.

And thanks. :lol:
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:51 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:I just find LCs to complicated in terms of transformation (yeah, I said that. Every LC figure I've gotten since Movie1 Megs proves that). Even though the new Weaponizers have simple transforms, the gimmick sacrifices a lot for me.

And thanks. :lol:


I know where you're coming from. Most of the time, I can't transform a modern TF without the instructions sheet. But DOTM Ironhide seems to be pretty simple; I don;t have the fig, but that's what everyone says. ROTF Megs, too. He's probably the simplest LC there is, next to Ironhide.

As for the Weaponizers, I'd rather they be more complex than deal with the sacrifices they made to the figs. Bee had faux wheels on his forearms, and OP shouldn't have fake chest plates as an LC toy.

And they're not cheap, either.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby PrymeStriker » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:59 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:I just find LCs to complicated in terms of transformation (yeah, I said that. Every LC figure I've gotten since Movie1 Megs proves that). Even though the new Weaponizers have simple transforms, the gimmick sacrifices a lot for me.

And thanks. :lol:


I know where you're coming from. Most of the time, I can't transform a modern TF without the instructions sheet. But DOTM Ironhide seems to be pretty simple; I don;t have the fig, but that's what everyone says. ROTF Megs, too. He's probably the simplest LC there is, next to Ironhide.

As for the Weaponizers, I'd rather they be more complex than deal with the sacrifices they made to the figs. Bee had faux wheels on his forearms, and OP shouldn't have fake chest plates as an LC toy.

And they're not cheap, either.


For me, Megatron was a pain. I know, stupid right? But mine has some sort of defect. Whilst transforming him, I managed to break his arm off. I was able to get it back on, but I tried transforming him 10 more times, and I couldn't do it without the arm slipping off. Not to mention the fact that the lights and sounds activate when I lightly touch him....anywhere.

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:08 pm

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You mean the G1 transformation sounds? They're mean to compliment the transformation sequence, to make it seem like he's making the sounds as he transforms.

But if you mean the arm cannon, yeah, it's annoying. Damn thing makes a blasting noise every fricking time I move the arm around. In fact, that stupid thing is the reason he doesn't have an elbow; to accommodate the wire.

You know, ROTF Megs is actually a decent representation of he CG model if not for the arms--hulking proportions, accurate head-sculpt. I've seen some kitbashers who made him look awesome with customized arms.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby PrymeStriker » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:24 pm

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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:You mean the G1 transformation sounds? They're mean to compliment the transformation sequence, to make it seem like he's making the sounds as he transforms.

But if you mean the arm cannon, yeah, it's annoying. Damn thing makes a blasting noise every fricking time I move the arm around. In fact, that stupid thing is the reason he doesn't have an elbow; to accommodate the wire.

You know, ROTF Megs is actually a decent representation of he CG model if not for the arms--hulking proportions, accurate head-sculpt. I've seen some kitbashers who made him look awesome with customized arms.


You know how you move his arm and it makes some sort of bashing sound? Yep, don't have to touch him for that to happen.

Also 'I am Megatron!' keeps playing whenever I place my finger on his chest.

I have nothing against the figure itself. I just don't like him, and he's in a box with a bunch of other Transformers that I didn't get a chance to get out from the great move 2 years ago. Let him annoy them. :roll:

Same thing with Movie 1 Prime and his sounds.

Sabrblade wrote:What about the Cybertron Leader class figures? Or the Animated ones?


The Cybertron leaders are fine. I never got around to buying a Leader Animated figure. (although I saw Megatron and Ultra Magnus plenty of times).
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:36 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:You know how you move his arm and it makes some sort of bashing sound? Yep, don't have to touch him for that to happen.

Also 'I am Megatron!' keeps playing whenever I place my finger on his chest.

I have nothing against the figure itself. I just don't like him, and he's in a box with a bunch of other Transformers that I didn't get a chance to get out from the great move 2 years ago. Let him annoy them. :roll:

Same thing with Movie 1 Prime and his sounds.


LOL! Yeah, sound gimmicks are a pain even when they work like they're supposed to.

It doesn't get worse than having to hear Tom "Spongebob" Kenny do his horrendous imitation of Cris Latta's Starscream whenever I accidentally touch the button in alt mode.

As a general rule, all the batteries of LC figs come off within a week of purchase.

Sabrblade wrote:What about the Cybertron Leader class figures? Or the Animated ones?


I'm still kicking myself for not buying Galaxy Convoy when I had the chance. One of the best Primes ever produced.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby Hotrodimust » Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:31 am

I really don't find any transformer hard to transform and I never use the instructions. ROTF LC OP takes a little time to get the arms lined up while putting him in alt mode but that's it.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:52 am

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Hotrodimust wrote:I really don't find any transformer hard to transform and I never use the instructions. ROTF LC OP takes a little time to get the arms lined up while putting him in alt mode but that's it.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby Hotrodimust » Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:29 am

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Hotrodimust wrote:I really don't find any transformer hard to transform and I never use the instructions. ROTF LC OP takes a little time to get the arms lined up while putting him in alt mode but that's it.
You need to try Masterpiece Megatron. :lol:

I have MP-05 along with the rest of the mp line and megatron isn't that hard or a fragile as everyone claims. One of the main reasons I love TF toys is because they are like puzzles and I want more intricate transformations. I wasn't to fond of the ROTF figures but some of them you actually had to think about to transform them. I like looking for the tabs and slots on the figures the human alliance line has good transformations and deluxe ROTF skids and mudflap along with sideways had pretty good transformations to and I'm talking about putting them into alt mode because robot mode is a lot easier to do. I think I'm gonna start doing timed transformation videos on YouTube lol.
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Postby TheTigerKing84 » Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:11 pm

Great repaint,Much more menacing. But still not a fan of this mold with its wimpy left arm, Even if it is giving the finger.I keep mine in Tank mode because my version is possessed. It randomly glows and makes transformation noises in robot mode. Its sometime caused by suttle vibrations by simply walking near it.Wonder if we may still get a Leader DOTM Megatron based on the Mach truck mode. The Voyager was great But no real menacing next to Leader Optimus or Sentinel.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby Hotrodimust » Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:29 pm

TheTigerKing84 wrote:Great repaint,Much more menacing. But still not a fan of this mold with its wimpy left arm, Even if it is giving the finger.I keep mine in Tank mode because my version is possessed. It randomly glows and makes transformation noises in robot mode. Its sometime caused by suttle vibrations by simply walking near it.Wonder if we may still get a Leader DOTM Megatron based on the Mach truck mode. The Voyager was great But no real menacing next to Leader Optimus or Sentinel.

I will legit cry the day we get a true dotm leader class megatron but I know it will never happen.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:45 pm

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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:But if you mean the arm cannon, yeah, it's annoying. Damn thing makes a blasting noise every fricking time I move the arm around. In fact, that stupid thing is the reason he doesn't have an elbow; to accommodate the wire.

He doesn't have a wire in the arm, all the electronics are in the torso. He doesn't have an elbow because of the missile.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:24 pm

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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:But if you mean the arm cannon, yeah, it's annoying. Damn thing makes a blasting noise every fricking time I move the arm around. In fact, that stupid thing is the reason he doesn't have an elbow; to accommodate the wire.

He doesn't have a wire in the arm, all the electronics are in the torso. He doesn't have an elbow because of the missile.


I think he does have a wire in his arm, to activate the blasting sound every time the missile fires.

It can't be just the missile, as the mechanism would take no more space than the forearm to work. LC Starscream's missile pod took even less space.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers DOTM Megatron: Dark Energon Edition

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:33 pm

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Evil_the_Nub wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:But if you mean the arm cannon, yeah, it's annoying. Damn thing makes a blasting noise every fricking time I move the arm around. In fact, that stupid thing is the reason he doesn't have an elbow; to accommodate the wire.

He doesn't have a wire in the arm, all the electronics are in the torso. He doesn't have an elbow because of the missile.


I think he does have a wire in his arm, to activate the blasting sound every time the missile fires.

It can't be just the missile, as the mechanism would take no more space than the forearm to work. LC Starscream's missile pod took even less space.

In robot mode there's a tiny button in the torso that the shoulder joint presses when you move the arm. In vehicle mode the button on the cannon also presses a button on the torso. The firing mechanism is pretty far back because the missile fits inside the arm instead of sticking out like it does on Starscream. Plus the arms comes off really easily and there's no wire to be found there.
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