Seibertron.com Energon Pub Forums

Sabrblade wrote:
Are you saying that Optimus isn't humble enough to lend his power to his friends for their benefit? If others have combined with Optimus before to power him up, shouldn't it be only common courtesy for Optimus to take a turn at powering up someone else? He's a team player.

Of course Optimus would gladly act as a belt and backpack for his comrades, he's just that kind of prime, by why would TakaraTomy even ask such a thing of him? And you literally can't tell he's even involved, he could have at least been visible from the front!

OptimusPrimeval wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:
Are you saying that Optimus isn't humble enough to lend his power to his friends for their benefit? If others have combined with Optimus before to power him up, shouldn't it be only common courtesy for Optimus to take a turn at powering up someone else? He's a team player.

Of course Optimus would gladly act as a belt and backpack for his comrades, he's just that kind of prime, by why would TakaraTomy even ask such a thing of him? And you literally can't tell he's even involved, he could have at least been visible from the front!

I know I shouldn't be saying this for several reasons, but hey, I'm going to:

In the Japanese Masterforce cartoon, the Powermaster Optimus Prime design was repurposed into a new character named Ginrai. Same overall archtype though, he even had his own combination gimmick in the shape of Godbomber. In the Victory series Ginrai was killed off and turned into Victory Leo, who for all purposes was a power-up for the new leader, Star Saber.

In short, from mighty leader with magic mushrooms, to a mere magic mushroom for a new leader. It has been done before folks.

P.S. Sabrblade, I already know about the human + transtector thing and the transtectors being given proper life, so don't you dare.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:P.S. Sabrblade, I already know about the human + transtector thing and the transtectors being given proper life, so don't you dare.

Why should that matter? Whether human or SRL (the latter was still the same person as the former in essence), Ginrai was a leader who was upgraded into a magic mushroom for the next leader, like you said.

Jelze GoldRabbit vs Sabrblade! Who will win in this battle where there Can BE No WINNERS ?

njb902 wrote:Jelze GoldRabbit vs Sabrblade! Who will win in this battle where there Can BE No WINNERS ?

...But I was expressing my agreement with JelZe.

Sabrblade wrote:

njb902 wrote:Jelze GoldRabbit vs Sabrblade! Who will win in this battle where there Can BE No WINNERS ?

...But I was expressing my agreement with JelZe.

Which is what makes it funny, at least to me.

OK, so that does look slightly more like a dragon than previously, but it's still complete garbage to me. All of it.

Concept; awesome.

Execution;

When I first saw this a couple months ago I was like ok, that's something different and give the designer some credit for coming up with a toy that is so extremely exotic... But now I'm like is there suppose to be a Dragon some where in that jungle of plastic, where is the dragon...

Looks terrible in every mode, save for he bullet train, and that's a boring mode to begin with.
The helmet for the combined mode does look kinda neat though. But that's really all this has.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

MR Optimus Prime wrote:So after 30 years, the dragon mode has NEEDED snap on parts? This isn't a triple changer.

Nope, he's a Triple Changer and Combiner rolled into one. A bit more sophisticated. Besides, the only required snap-on part is the head, which doubles as DaiGekisou's helmet. The rear is made from DaiKenzan's helmet

Judging from another gallery I'm looking at, Optimus' electronics will provide all the sounds for both combined forms, triggered by either helmet (technically kabuto, so get off my case already). Makes sense, as the other two have electronics as well, only dedicated to either team.

Here are the links, courtesy of Alfes2010:

Train and Dragon Modes
Robot Mode
Renketsu Sanjou Gattai DaiKenzan
Renketsu Sanjou Gattai DaiGekisou
Comparisons and other silly stuff

Sorry but this does not TRANSFORM into three modes. Snap on parts are needed.

MR Optimus Prime wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

MR Optimus Prime wrote:So after 30 years, the dragon mode has NEEDED snap on parts? This isn't a triple changer.

Nope, he's a Triple Changer and Combiner rolled into one. A bit more sophisticated. Besides, the only required snap-on part is the head, which doubles as DaiGekisou's helmet. The rear is made from DaiKenzan's helmet

Judging from another gallery I'm looking at, Optimus' electronics will provide all the sounds for both combined forms, triggered by either helmet (technically kabuto, so get off my case already). Makes sense, as the other two have electronics as well, only dedicated to either team.

Here are the links, courtesy of Alfes2010:

Train and Dragon Modes
Robot Mode
Renketsu Sanjou Gattai DaiKenzan
Renketsu Sanjou Gattai DaiGekisou
Comparisons and other silly stuff

Sorry but this does not TRANSFORM into three modes. Snap on parts are needed.

It still counts as one, and a better one at that than some others I've seen without any extra parts. He's Optimus Prime, so he's on my list by default.

Some of those dragon mode pics from Alfes's galleries look like it's supposed to be a dragon that "swims" through the air (instead of merely "flying"):

Dead Metal wrote:The helmet for the combined mode does look kinda neat though.

Which one? (there are two combined modes)

Sabrblade wrote:Some of those dragon mode pics from Alfes's galleries look like it's supposed to be a dragon that "swims" through the air (instead of merely "flying")

Well, it's supposed to be an Asian dragon (judging from the number of claws, a Japanese one and the Kanji 龍 signifies Imperial Dragon), don't know if they "swim" through the heavens.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Some of those dragon mode pics from Alfes's galleries look like it's supposed to be a dragon that "swims" through the air (instead of merely "flying")

Well, it's supposed to be an Asian dragon (judging from the number of claws, a Japanese one and the Kanji 龍 signifies Imperial Dragon), don't know if they "swim" through the heavens.

Right, but in a lot of things I've seen with Asian dragons, they simply "flew" or "slithered" through the heavens, whereas these pics look like Prime's trying to doggie-paddle.

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Some of those dragon mode pics from Alfes's galleries look like it's supposed to be a dragon that "swims" through the air (instead of merely "flying")

Well, it's supposed to be an Asian dragon (judging from the number of claws, a Japanese one and the Kanji 龍 signifies Imperial Dragon), don't know if they "swim" through the heavens.

Right, but in a lot of things I've seen with Asian dragons, they simply "flew" or "slithered" through the heavens, whereas these pics look like Prime's trying to doggie-paddle.

Or draggie-paddle. In any case, it's probably another case of a Japanese blogger being silly

The red helmet.

And the more I see of that Dragon-mode, the more it looks like someone used Lego bricks and Lego Bionicle parts to make a robot, that turns into something that tries to look like a dragon.
That dragon mode is just amazing at how inept it is.

Has anyone mentioned how it looks like the hips are in a normal position and not high water level like the other triple combiner teams?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Has anyone mentioned how it looks like the hips are in a normal position and not high water level like the other triple combiner teams?

It's because he doesn't for the leg section of the combined form, only its midsection.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Has anyone mentioned how it looks like the hips are in a normal position and not high water level like the other triple combiner teams?

I'd say somewhat. They're still a bit high up upon first glance, but he's not a big offender.

Dead Metal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Has anyone mentioned how it looks like the hips are in a normal position and not high water level like the other triple combiner teams?

It's because he doesn't for the leg section of the combined form, only its midsection.

That must be it. It's a very unique look on a classic character.

Dead Metal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Has anyone mentioned how it looks like the hips are in a normal position and not high water level like the other triple combiner teams?

It's because he doesn't for the leg section of the combined form, only its midsection.

That must be it. It's a very unique look on a classic character.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Has anyone mentioned how it looks like the hips are in a normal position and not high water level like the other triple combiner teams?

It's because he doesn't for the leg section of the combined form, only its midsection.

That must be it. It's a very unique look on a classic character.

Oh god, I just re-read what I wrote there, how the hell did I manage to write that horribly?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Has anyone mentioned how it looks like the hips are in a normal position and not high water level like the other triple combiner teams?

It's because he doesn't for the leg section of the combined form, only its midsection.

That must be it. It's a very unique look on a classic character.

Oh god, I just re-read what I wrote there, how the hell did I manage to write that horribly?

Dead Metal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Has anyone mentioned how it looks like the hips are in a normal position and not high water level like the other triple combiner teams?

It's because he doesn't for the leg section of the combined form, only its midsection.

That must be it. It's a very unique look on a classic character.

Oh god, I just re-read what I wrote there, how the hell did I manage to write that horribly?

I understood what you meant

Managed to snag one at hlj,hobbysearch surprisingly did not carry this and amiami is all sold out. Weird.

Just waitng for a delivery confirmation.